Nonoise - that's the only thing you found strange with MC's posts? How about his hundreds of posts for tekton speakers being the best speaker made? 

He sent me a nasty PM when i busted him in a lie and Duke took him to task for deleting a post I replied to so that it lacked context. The text of that nasty PM his username has “ suspended “ next to it. Good riddance.

Re Townshend. No doubt Max RIP was a creative innovator who was a “ measure and listen “ guy. BUT there are many, many vibration isolation products out there from long running storied firms. This forum improved by varied inputs and those with wide experience and restraint for hyperbole.

Jim

I recall back when MC was touting the Townshend springs but some here were concerned about the price. I, and others, commented on how good the IsoAcoustic  devices worked for ourselves and it was then that he went into overdrive with the Nobsound springs citing them as the alternative to the Townshends if cost were a factor and to ignore the offerings from IsoAcoustic.

I found that more than a bit strange.

All the best,
Nonoise

I have Townshend springs under my speakers. Night and day they are not.

If I were a dealer I would behave or be wary of being exposed.

I understand MillerCarbon is an agent for Townshend. He needs to be included.

@ PEDOREB    Interesting.  He has been pushing the Townshend Podiums aggressively for some time now. Since he appears to be a highly regarded commenter he practically has me sold and they are on my "to do" list. Can anyone vouch for them?

My agenda, to get more people to try multi-amping with an active crossover.

OK!  I'm a dealer.

Not audio equipment but well, a dealer of something.

I expect dealers and manufacturers to not only be transparent but to not hawk their products in the forum if they want to advertise then pay for it. 

atmasphere is a precious informative gentleman and a very good example....No hidden agenda here....

@boothroyd 

”A selfless lack of agenda is what makes for a great forum IMO.” 

++++++1 Agree!

I genuinely like several dealers (including some of the more high pressure ones) and I'm not ready to diss anybody for wanting to post on this site. This site attracts a heck of a lot of highly intelligent folks. At the very least, I'm sure we can garner a bit of pleasure when we discern a bit of shilling.

But shame on you for never revealing your status frankly before posting here...320 posts after truth.... 😁😊

I dealer in love and lady can no resist.

i suspect there are numerous industry people who post here, with their biases and agendas hidden, giving people ’advice’... some properly self identify... many do not -- 'tis one of the big problems on an anonymous forum like this, where things go by the honor system...

... but often people are dishonorable

so a word to the wise here, especially newbies, please beware when folks here are trying to ’help’ you by recommending x-y-z, be it equipment, tweaks, cables, fuses ... sometimes they are actually helping themselves even though it looks like they are being generous and kind

so click the username, see the details, see their system, see their a-gon user feedback as buyer or seller (don't have any?  beware...), see and carefully past posts -- see where they are coming from...

if one comes here naive and lazy, one can and will ’get played’

Praise in public.

Chew in private.

👍 +1

A selfless lack of agenda is what makes for a great forum IMO. Any hidden sell agenda is equal to politics in professional sports - utterly gross.

Is it not human nature though, how many pontificate as a means to justify their choices whether they’re in the business or not?

I would expect a dealer to always disclose this information. I see them do it frequently. If I thought someone was I would ask a none threatening / question about it. 
 

Actually I did the other day. Someone made the most absurd claim about cost having noting to do with performance. I just asked what his equipment was. He then said he manufactures it… and disclosed everything.

Vested interest makes a difference. When I got out of grad school I understood the concept. But, I always thought it was a very conscious process… it is not. I then spent nearly 40 years managing… line people, world-wide projects, and working among executive teams… it is not… it is typically 100% subconscious and frequently the higher the “intelligence” of the person (frequently accompanied by low EQ… and low self examination) and it is 100% invisible to the person. It was for me in early life… it takes real work to see it… and a high EQ. This is why it is such a big deal. Vested interest completely changes your values. Also drives a lot of egos on this site… because folks worked hard and value the system they put together… so the KNOW.

I think it's pretty rare now when a dealer doesn't declare himself as one.

Master M. what's up.. All for peanuts... :-)

I just got a pound of fresh AAA Madagascar vanilla bean.

Did you know Vanilla is an Orchid. One of the most labor intensive commodities produced, HEAVEN.. Vanilla fudge coming up.. LOL

Regards.

I think everyone is welcome if he state his real status and goal....Sellers or designer or simple amateurs...

But we must be frank about our intention...

Its ok to say that a dealer is a dealer. I would wager no one would be offended.

It’s an open forum.  You can do what you think right.  I’d just  be civil and sure of your facts.  

"Attacking other users is contrary to the forum guidelines and that would become a matter for the moderators to address."

Yes it is, but it is done selectively.

I concur with my friend post...

What can I say I HATE peanuts! Except when it cost peanuts..

I've seen posters also speak ill of a Dealer because they received a peace of used equipment that some how show up DOA. Dealers don't sell DOA gear. 

Then there is the plug and play crew that miss a switch for XLR/RCA or not plug the power cable in all the way.. Those are always fun, they open a thread and slam the Dealer.

I really like the ones about shipping damage. It's usually a packing issue 90% of the time. You put enough stickers on a box it will get handled a little easier. Packing is a whole different story.. Few sellers are good at packing. They usually forget the customer has to get the package, intact, before the deal is complete. Not get the money. :-)

What can I say I HATE peanuts! Except when it cost peanuts..

Regards

I know of a gentleman here that continuously posts and goes after people and does not disclose who he is.

Then how is he a "gentleman"?

I have seen this here and other forums. Sometimes it is not just the dealer, but regular posters who try to get "too" involved. Supporting a product/dealer is one thing. But when the posters try to defend a dealer - that kind of comes off as if they themselves are the dealers or have some agenda/motive.

@stereo5  +1

Yes. And he has even tried that same rubbish against Ayre Acoustics, no less!

Baby needs a new pair of shoes and the rent is due! :-)

The funny part stereo5 is true audiophile junkies are SLOW to part with their goods. A used car salesman isn't.

"We're gonna put you in something today EVEN if we have to steal one and sell it to ya!" I had a guy tell me that..

I'm looking for an "XYZ". A good salesman, listens and says have you thought about ZYX or (YOU should know as a salesman) there mind is made up. NOW what accessories do they need to be happy when they try to set up. Customer first, Salesman LAST! 

Great equipment at a reasonable price, you don't have to "Jump the customer" to sell something. On AG it's actually kind of underhanded for others that are not selling as a business but to clean the closet. :-)

I will offer FREE services just to piss someone off though. I don't mind taking advantage of the stupid folks, I like doing that.

But honest "I don't know", folks that is just BAD stuff. Reaping what you sow, Karma, bad mojo, it will come back to bite ya. Stupid though.. Great fun!!

Time to feed the chickens..

Regards

 It gets tiring, you would never see Atmosphere say that, he is a true gentleman.

Nor would you see @verdantaudio or ​duke lejuene do that crap.

I am tired of Audio Troy always saying what they sell is better than what some person is seeking.  He does it in a innocent kind of way.  Example, a guy was looking at a Mac and right away Audio Troy came out with “not good resolution in the Mac, our T&A brand is much better” or something to that effect   It gets tiring, you would never see Atmosphere say that, he is a true gentleman.  

Praise in public.

Chew in private.

If all else fails you don't have to accept the insults. You can always return them to sender. 

If what they are saying is the truth or a lie? A simple "here's the facts"? usually clears thing up..

I've caught audio2design a few times reinventing him/herself. There were a few that did it, trying to be a sneak, you'll see a LOT of that around MCs post. They arrive like flies to $hit.

Some ONLY post when he does. You can guess who they really are?

To tell the truth, ebm is right, WHO CARES!!

Regards

Who cares not me.Good luck!!

Thanks... the policy page is unreachable. so I will use the contact us

oops

The page you were looking for doesn't exist

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved

you can also very politely state whoever you know is a manufacturer or dealer, so all can know...whoever you are referring to likely knows the "rules"

Thank you for the thoughts, I rather do this quietly.

2 more questions, where are the forum rules and how do I reach a moderator?

I looked in the General part of the help, but there is no mention to the forum rules.

transparency is good. Especially when the poster has some financial stake in the topic…

Jim

Attacking other users is contrary to the forum guidelines and that would become a matter for the moderators.to address.

Should you feel strongly about the situation (clearly you do) I think that it would be preferable to quietly report the poster about which you have knowledge rather than to publicly name and shame.

• You will not post content that is abusive or defames another member of The Service.

I thought dealers, designers and manufacturers are expected to identify themselves...not sure if it is an actual "rule"...

Well, the forum doesn't have ethics, people have ethics. Or they don't.

A dealer should reveal himself to be a dealer, or he has no ethics.

And who wants to deal with someone with no ethics...?