Wilson Audio Haters

Each brand who makes sources has its own dna how it builds the stage. I also sold different modified Marantz sources.

What you cannot change is that it is a 2 dimensional source and it will stay like that also after a modification.

Even when you own speakers and amps who are able to build a 3 dimensional stage, the source needs this dna as well.

in 2015 I brought 2 brothers from a 2D stage to a 3D stage. They both owned Marantz sources. Shootouts proved these sources limited them in the stage of their system. So the Marantz sources had to go!

http://www.audiogon.com/listings/cd-sacd-players-modwright-modified-marantz-sa8005-truth-mods-extras-2016-12-20-digital-98601-amboy-wa

We compared the Esoteric K-01X with the Meridian 800daxv4 and 808 several times. The Meridians sounded much more analogue and had a much better individual focus of instruments and voices. The owner of the Esoteric had to admit that the Meridian sounded much more analogue. He also listened most of the time to his recordplayer.

You can modify it but still the dna you cannot change. Audio is all about shootout and comparison.

The Tannoy tweeter is not that special anymore at the time we live. We auditioned it several times and did not blend well with many loudspeakers.

I tested several silver PCs as well. I was not a fan of it. Jim Aud of Purist Audio has the same idea’s as I have. He only made one because people asked for it.

Silver loudspeakercables and interconnects is a whole different story.

You will hear and see it soon, trial and error will never be effective.

Sad to see another interesting thread hijacked by a salesman. First Audioquest cables, now Monitor speakers. Where's a good moderator when you need one.

Whenever I hear them on the show, I wish I have room and money to buy them, they are good speakers.

It outperforms any silly system created by trial and error.

I hope your separate budget tweeter doesn't fail on your speaker. I know your Esoteric very well. In my world this is inferior audio. I am even prepared to demo it especially for you :)

I’m afraid that Tru-Fi just failed the Turing test.

We will invite many people in 2017. Everyone is welcome in our world. We will never disclude any person. We create it to make other people want to buy more audio. 

We want to give people a much higher level in realism and emotion during listening to the music they love.

Only at small concerts and at a few jazz concerts I have auditioned a 3 dimensional stage. But we have many ideas for live music as well.

Soon we will do the first tests with S.A.P.-measurement  for live music as well. When it works as we think it will we hope to publish it as well.

We have done tests in a hall with a ceiling of about 8 metres. The result were the same as in a small room. But now we will use it for live music.

Tru-Fi has nothing to do with any kind of equipment. There are different aspects you can hear when you listen to a system.

I give you an example: Diversity in sound is the most important part to create emotion for us humans. It is a part of Tru-Fi

A few days ago we did a shootout between the S1 (AudioFacts modified) and the new Esoteric N-05. The person who does Esoteric in the Benelux visit me and wanted to do a shootout.

The difference in diversity in sound was huge. The S1 was able to reveal a lot more layers in the whole freq. range. Voices were not only richer, but you could hear the layers of a voice. When we listend to the same music withe the Esoteric it was like the layers were gone.

There was no connection witht the music. Like the emotion was gone. With the S1 you directly are connected with the music.

A friend of mine gave classical live concerts for about 60 people in his house. Here I learned that voices and instruments are very direct and small in dimenson.

I was hypnotized when I closed my eyes and I heard a voice live. I call this intimate sound. It is a part of Tru-Fi.

You want to hear voices as realistic possible. They need to be small and own the same size as in real. When a voice  becomes more physical apparant we talk about a higher black level. This is also a part of Tru-Fi

With the right properties you can create a higher black level.  It is very easy to compare parts in how good they are in this part. What we do is we use music and pick one part of Tru-Fi and explain it to our clients.

When you compare for example cables, the differences in how big instruments anv voices are in proportion is big. Same about how physical these voices and instruments are tangible.

Tru-Fi makes is easier for people to understand what the differences are between cables, amps, sources, speakers etc.

Tru-Fi has nothing to do with any brand or product. The focus is on the sound you can hear at the end. And you want to hear all the layers of the music. Toy want to hear the space of the room. You want to hear the diversity in sound, You want to hear the place in depth and width of an instrument and voices. You want to hear the differences in height of instruments when they used microphones at different heights.

The Esoteric could create stage depth and width. But the stage of the S1 was so much deeper and wider. This is dna you cannot change.

The S1 was a lot more dynamic and controled. This is the difference in dna as well. Like instruments and voices became more free and apparent withe the S1. Instruments and voices were a lot less tangible with the Esoteric. 

The person who brought the Esoteric said at the first song within 10 seconds; okay clear, no comparison. 

We are talking about superior quality between the S1 and the Esoteric.

In this year we have done a lot of research in smog, electricity, magnetism and diversity in sound. With different technical people we developed new parts and ideas to modify sources, amps and powersupplies. We made huge progress in many products.

Perfectionism goes on and on in my head. It never stops and it always needs to become better. So we go on testing. I work with great people who are also autistic in audio like me. Togheter we create new thoughts in audio. 

I have ideas in my head all the time, and I use their technical support to create it. This is their specialism. For me this is what I love most. It becomes very addictive when the results are mindblowing.

2017 will be the year we share it with manufacturers and customers. We have done it with many people all ready. But now we will make it public as well. 

I very much agree that sense of 3rd dimension increases greatly the enjoyment of the system.  In fact however, when I go to live concerts I rarely if ever get that 3 D sound that I so enjoy in my system. 

+++1 Doug. All we need is yet one more acronym with an unsupported claim to an audio revolution.

I don't hate the Wilson's per se, it's their price vs. performance.

I think they are just fine. Maybe not the smoothest or airy-est (two different things) on the top end, but certainly have good dynamic range.

I do find them over-bearing. Their largest speakers are certainly only meant for royalty with listening rooms that can do them justice.

Best,


Erik

Dear Dave,

my religion is very important in my life as well. That is why I protect each single client. And I will always do the best I can to give them the best possible for the money they spend.

In the last years I met too many people who were not advised on a honest and respectful way. That is why I would like to see a more open and honest world in audio.

This only can be achieved when people have more respect to the people who buy their products. 

have a nice Christmas.

Dear Mesch,

audio is all about collecting the right stuff togheter. It costs  time and devotion to create it. 

It is very easy to F. up a 3 dimensional system into a 2 dimensional system.

have a nice Christmas

I went down and took a close look at all my equipment. All components were 3 dimensional, having a H, W and D. :-)

When my friends come to hear my system, comments I most often get refer to the holography of the soundstage. That soundstage, and dynamics are two aspects that I strive to maximize. For this I believe the room, and equipment placement within, to be critical. Not that I could argue that there is no difference between components in this regard. Differences that can't be measured exist. Due to the nature of the characteristic under measurement  and the resolution of the measuring device.
 
Obviously, other aspects are also important. I enjoy a tight and articulate bass (quality over quantity), a smooth cohesive midrange, and a relaxed upper end (not over stated). To this end I focus on products that provide these things. To get the most of this within my budget I sacrifice the bottom end, believing I can't afford the bottom octave.      

bo1972      12-25-2016 7:54am:

"Dear Dave,

...This is only a personal opinion, nothing more nothing less. Why for God sake you use the word hate?"

bo1972,

I never used the word "hate" in my two posts (or any other post I ever made) nor said anything negative about Wilson, your opinion, or anything else. I am however sensitive to referring to God in such a callous way as you did above, especially on Christmas Day.

I agreed with one of your statements early in this thread (regarding holographic imaging) and disagreed with one later (regarding your statement that 99% of audio components are incapable of 3D imaging). That's it.

Do you even read and think about what others say or just jump right into repeating the same diatribe ad nauseam as if your opinion or experience is the only one worthy of consideration?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you bo1972,
Dave

People focus on brands all the time in audio. They think when we buy products with great reviews  we will have an awesome system.

Audio does not work like that. You can use it this way but at the end trial and error always will be very ineffective.

You can create a superior level in sound when you would focus on just properties of each single part of your sustem.

That is why I say: we don’t care about a name, but we are just interested in properties a brand or product can give us.

Based on the properties togheter of a product we decide if it fits into our Tru-Fi. The focus is always on Tru-Fi.

Tru-Fi makes it possible to use all the qualities/properties a loudspeaker owns. Because we want to know the DNA of each single loudspeaker.

Then we know which quality/properties it owns. It is our goal to reveal all the properties and quality the speaker can give.

But when you will use this speaker and create your system by trial and error. I can garantee you that it is impossible to use all the properties it owns.

And you know why?

Because you are not able to know what the properties of each part of your system are. Most of the choices you made these are products which do not own all the parts of Tru-Fi.

At the end you are not able to use all the properties/qualities of the speaker you own.

We sell many parts like cables, sources, conditioners and modifications to many peole with expensive sets. Money does not garantee you anything.

You have no idea what we created and what we do. Most things we will never post or share. I can garantee you that it will change the world in audio in 2017.

We are far ahead in knowledge and insight than all other people are. We have now a specialist in Marketing and we will share the knowledge and ideas with manufacturers.

It outperforms anything in highend audio at this moment. It is that more precise and natural sounding. When I say: we create and sell a sound. It is a new approach.

This is a new level in creating audio systems. What is superior in effectivity. This is based on the fact that trial and error is ineffective to create an audio system.

We work and think based on the human emotion. This creates a much higher level in realism and quality.

This will give people a new level in listening to their beloved music.

seems like most people drive Wilson speakers with ss amplifiers but they sound so much better with tubes which would help the approval ratings

all imo of course

Dear meerzistar,

we call a system 2 dimensional when the stage depth is 1 metre max.

Many 2 dimensional systems have even a lot less. So when you put some music on, voices and instruments are al most standing on the same line.

What this does with your emotion is that the music is less involving and people often use the words; it is more standing away from you.

When you listen to the same music in a 3 dimensional system, the voices and instruments are more separated from eachother but also separated in depth.

You are pulled into the music and you become more one with the music. When I changed from 2d to 3D you always see the smile on the faces of people. 

Their reactions was the reason why I stopped selling 2 dimensional sound. I work on behave of the people who wants to buy an audio system. I want to give them the best possible, not second best.

When I was them I would only want the best. I become them and I make the same decisions as I would make for myself.

Music is a part of my life and I want others to get the same addictive feeling as I experience.

bo1972, based on your posts and the system linked to on Facebook I find you to have no superiority in setting up systems in comparison to better dealers. In fact, I see what I consider to be a glaring mistake in your method. :) 

What is a 2D system? 

Bo1972,

Your testimonial about yourself is impressive. You are not the first to claim you have discovered the holy grail. None of what you have written demonstrates any understanding of loudspeaker construction and design but I guess your enthusiasm for the products you sell more than makes up for that! 

There has always been a "latest and greatest" and like fall fashions they come with great fanfare and promotion and quietly fade away with next years "new and improved". And then there are products that have survived the test of time. I know what I will choose - like my Gibson Les Paul or my Fender Precision bass or Pearl ref drum kit - knowledgeable buyers keep buying well made products that have proven themselves time and time again with countless buyers! IMHO Wilson falls into the category of time proven.

Dear Shadorne,

The Pl-500 is the most relaxt loudspeaker I have auditioned sofar. I also auditioned the Alexandria 2 and this demo was rarther poor. Still it was the setup of the distributer.

My perfectionism is this huge that each single kind of imperfection makes me F. irritated. It needs to be perfect, flawless.

With classical music the Pl-200 could reveal details of instruments which were not auditionable with the Sasha. Beside this the layering in the lowest freq. missed information as well.

When you compare the 100khz AMT tweeter against the 23khz dome tweeter of the Sasha, the differences could not be bigger. The AMT not only reveals more details and information but has so much more authority and grip on the high freq.

The new drivers are in response faster than anything we auditioned sofar. 2 weeks ago a person who’s biggest passion is music an audio. He owns a system far over 50.000 dollar. He said; this is the best low freq I ever auditioned. He called it reference low frequency.

I have to admit that S.A.P. creates a superior timing what never can be created by any kind of old school highend audio. But you still need fast drivers.

The accuton drivers have a coloration what I call: the mjeh sound. You hear it when you compare a violin/cello in real. Played by systems who use accuton drivers a violin sounds a lot more clean and misses the layering in sound a violin can reveal.

The old drivers of the first Platinum series were also made of ceramics with some aluminium. Accuton uses similar construction. I owned the Pl-300 of the first Platinum series. I liked them, but I did not like the mid freq. of this speaker. It was a different coloration compared to accuton drivers. I could not listen to classical music with these speakers.

It needs to sound as in real or I cannot bare it. The Pl-200 which came out in 2010 used new crossovers and with classical music it sounded much more natural.

But the new drivers of the new Platinum series are a lot different. What I said; we never auditioned so many layers in sound than with the new Platinum series.

A voice coil limits the timing of a driver. The technique Monitor Audio uses is superior in timing. And mannnn this makes a huge difference. At low volume it can build so much more dynamics and layering in the lowest freq.

What they changed as well it using carbon fiber on the back of each driver. And this creates a much lower level of distortion. With classical music you get a superior level of realism and layering in sound.

When you own the Pl-500 and you visit clients, shows and other shops it is F. insane at what level of quality and realism they listen to.

When we visit shops, new clients, audio shows and distributers we always go back in time. We listen to systems with many mistakes and parts of Tru-Fi which are missing.

They all have acoustic problems, we do not  have them anymore for many years now. When I see a picture of audio systems in most situation I know that the combination does not make sense at all.

This is based on the properties they connected to eachother. But they use audio by trial and error. They do not  know the properties of each single part. That is why I call it audiogambling.

When I ask the question: can you tell me why the stage and sound is what we hear? And no one can answer it, it stops for me.

Dear Dave,

I have done thousands of tests, and I understand how 3 dimensional sound works and what you need. The reason why it is difficult, is that  most products and brands are 2 dimensional.

This means when you bring one 2 dimensional product into a system what owns only 3 dimensional products, you go back to an almost 2 dimensional stage.

All the results showed the same outcome, over and over again. This is why audio is shootout. Audio is for me like a big puzzle, and I want to understand everything.

So you need to test over and over again. Hundreds of times each single year. This is how addicted and commited I am to sound. Creating new information. And mann I love it. This is not work, this is a part of who I am since I was a child. It has become my second nature. And I can do it blind.

The funny  thing is that when I tell people I have done thousands of tests in audio they really think; he is making it up. But everything I say is exactly as I wrote and told it.

The good thing about Wilson Audio is that Wilson is a very commited person who wants to create great products. You don't have to like them, based on the fact you don't like the sound. But how stuppid you would be to say: I hate them.

Hate is a word when you dislike these people so much that it makes you angry. So that is why I say: I would use faster materials and tweeters which will better fit to hi res recordings. And will have more grip.

This is only a personal opinion, nothing more nothing less. Why for God sake you use the word hate? I wish each single company in audio the best. When I visit people and I see over and over agian the same limitations. I write it down. And I hope the companies will do it differently the next time. To give their clients the best products.

What is wrong to give this information? Nothing is perfect, neither are we. But when we help eachother more people will have better quality. No one should be excluded.

First listen to the new Platinum series and then give an opinion. I am even prepared to talk to Wilson about the problems people have with their Wilson Audio loudspeakers.

When I say: I never auditioned a loudspeaker what can reveal so many layers of a recoding. It is a personal experience. But I never auditioned this at any client I visited with Wilson Audio loudspeakers.

At the end it is just a personal experience, don't make a big deal of it all the time. 

Same thing when I said: I never could hear the diversity in height of recordings so obvious. This is the truth and each single person I gave a demo experienced it the same way.

With the the Sasha we could hear that all the instruments had the same level in height. This was with the system of my client. It is just based on this system.

The new Platinum drivers are superior in timing, control, dynamics and layering than we had with the Sasha.

I would be even prepared when we get a Wilson Audio loudspeasker to demo it. In 2017 we will start a videoblog as well. Beside our own language we will do it in english as well.

We want to use it to share information about sound&vision. For us audio is all about shootout and what we can hear. At the end it is to give people the highest level in quality.

In 2017 we will audition many new products and when we think it is better than what we have, we will change it. I know it is different, but we are different. Because we believe that this is the best way to give people the highest quality.

I am a perfectionist, in each single thing I buy I do research to find out what is the best. It is inside my system since I was a child. This is how I sell and advice sound&vision.

And all people in audio have the same changes to do it their way. May the best win. And yes I want to become the best in sound&vision in the world. I will never do it for anything less. 

Others in this world have to proof they can do it better. So proof it...

@bo1972

I note that Monitor Audio use a dampening ring (similar to accuton rubber dots) to help prevent and dampen all the unwanted energy from the ringing of their rigid drivers. My ears are very sensitive to this type of coloration which is why I tend to defend old school pulp paper and damped fabric cones of the type generally preferred by Wilson. An internally damped driver (made of material that is dead and will not vibrate) will not ring like a bell and therefore it will better convey micro detail in music (timbre). So while you are dismissive of decades of engineering and proven track records as outdated, I will continue to enjoy better sound from solid designs using well understood principles that have withstood the test of time.

here is the description of how Monitor Audio reduces unwanted vibration:

"A new innovation in every driver replaces the usual rigid coupling of driver and voice coil with a pliable one. This ‘Dynamic Coupling Filter’ is a nylon ring ingeniously calibrated to be rigid up to the crossover frequency, and to act like a spring above it. In so doing the DCF helps to dampen surplus high frequency energy produced by the driver. It’s also perforated to encourage voice coil cooling and release air pressure from behind the cone for maximum driver efficiency. Result: more natural sound."

Test of time is important. A voice coil runs at over 100 centigrade - how to ensure the consistent elastic properties of that nylon ring as it is "baked" through thousands of heat cycles and also ages? No doubt Monitor have looked at this, however, time will tell. Just like Ferrofluid dries up - how robust and for how many years and how consistently can a chosen design platform perform?

bo1972,
"By all the research I did I found out that some brands which are not that expensive are able to create it. In 2007 I started to look for products and brands what could create the same kind of excitement as the expensive systems I owned."

Rather than repeating your same message regarding tru-fu and 3d sound for all of 2017, wouldn't it make sense to you to start a new thread where you concisely list the systems and their components that you have found create the sound you describe?  I actually think it would be a great idea to have your own thread, rather than use others.

"Don’t forget that over 99% of all audio systems which are being sold are 2 dimensional."

Yeah, I don't buy that. There are varying degrees of dimensionality. It is not a binary attribute. It is truly a magical experience when one's system can create a sonic hologram, but there's lots of equipment that is capable of it, given the right component matching, placement, room acoustics, AC quality, cabling, and vibration elimination, thus the word "system" vs "componentry".

Dave

I would like to see that more brands are able to creat stage depth and width. In the over 18 years of time I have tested so many products. It is like an addiction.

I owned and sold 2 dimensional audio for a long time. It is not a bad thing. But I know why people prefer 3 dimensional sound far over 2 dimensional audio. The thing is that it has nothing to do with expensive audio.

By all the research I did I found out that some brands which are not that expensive are able to create it. In 2007 I started to look for products and brands what could create the same kind of exitement as the expensive systems I owned.

The positive thing about the time we live now, is that is is so much more easy to create a stunning level in sound for a lot less money compared to the past. That is why we want to give as many people possible a high level in quality for prices many people can afford.

In the past I visited different people with Wilson Audio loudspeakers. They needed cables like Transparent to tame the tweeter.

It is difficult for me to understand why they use a 23khz tweeter in the Sasha. It was clear that it had difficulties with different recordings. A speaker in this price range should own a tweeter what can handle each recording and alos Hi Res with ease. But this is not the case.

Even with MIT Oracle cables ( which tame the high fequencies like hell) the high frequencies still were not under controle.

Even a Momentum poweramp did not solve it as well. It is a cheap dome tweeter what does not cost a lot of money.

If I would create a speaker in this price range, I would use superior materials and techniques. The looks of the Wilson Audio loudspeakers are allowed in the US. But in Europe we see them as outdated in looks.

The need to restyle it soon. Maybe now his son is in charge he will change it. The response of the drivers need to be a lot faster.

+gpgr4Blu
Getting the right equipment can be not to hard but can take a good amount of time and effort. The proper setup as the speaker gets bigger can become harder. It is so crtical for both those things to take place. That can take a Lot of time. So with bigger speakers it is harder to find ones that get those two needs met. So harder to find a good showing of them.

I am a fan of Wilson speakers having owned Sophias, Watt puppy 7s, Sashas and next up, Alexias. The Yvettes and Sabrinas are fairly  forgiving and partner well with a wide range of electronics. As for the upper ranks of Wilson speakers (Sasha, Alexia, Alexx, Alexandria), unless they are set up properly with synergistic partnering equipment, they can sound cavernous, shallow and/or shrill. But with the right equipment and proper setup, they can be sublime in all respects.

@bo1972 I'm not ready to embrace the 2D/3D distinction as a principal taxonomic category for high end audio.  Is 3D inclusive of other key attributes? What other properties are necessary or sufficient within 3D sound? Surely more than 1% of brands get it?  Santa, I'm here with milk and cookies in trade.

I've heard a number of different Wilson Audio speakers including the Alexandria XLF with several hundred K in supporting gear. My favorite by far is the Sabrina. Heard them with ARC GSi75 tube integrated (Sunny's in Covina) and with D'Agostino electronics (The Show Newport). They sounded beautiful in either setup. I still dream a bit occasionally, especially remembering the ARC tube integrated.

Always enjoyed auditioning these in the past. I cant afford them now without draining my 401k account . Enjoy them and forget the envious people.

5 weeks ago we visit an audio show with 30 rooms. We were with about 8 persons. Most also work in audio. We all agreed that all systems were 2 dimensional. 

Most products in audio are 2 dimensional, that is fact you cannot change. For an audio system what create a huge 3 dimensional stage each single product needs to be able to create it.

Wilson Audio owns crossovers who are also able to create a good deep and wide stage. These days we also see pictures of Wilson Audio loudspeakers driven by 2 dimensional amps.

Here you see that people have no idea which amps can create a deep and wide stage an which can't.

The other thing is we aren't listening to an individual component. We are listening to a system, which includes the room.

"Don’t forget that over 99% of all audio systems which are being sold are 2 dimensional."

Interesting commentary, considering there is no way to substantiate the claim. 

shadorne,
No absolutes in Audio, only preferences. That being said, I’ve owned Wilson Audio Sophia 2’s, 3s, and Sashas. The 2’s developed a very long crack and were replaced with Wilson with Sophia 3s for a nominal cost. I submit Wilson has outstanding customer service, but they have a well documented problem with their paint finish. I currently own Monitor Audio PL500 IIs. The finish on the PL500 IIs is equivalent to any Wilson that I’ve ever owned. To my ears the sound of the PL500 IIs are on an entirely different level. I don’t hate Wilson’s, but I do think they are over rated...just my opinion!

In 2 years of time when I run a shop I had a huge room with many speakers. I always had a 2 dimensional system ready and a 3 dimensional system.

The difference on how people (many who never spend serious moneu on audio) reacted to the differences made me stop selling 2 dimensional audio.

3 dimensional sound brings you closer to the artists. I talked to many people with 2 dimensional systems. You often hear that after time they are not that interested anymore in listening to music.

The people who own a 3 dimensional system use there sets a lot more. People who work in audio need to give their clients the highest level in sound quality possible. No person will be very happy with a 2 dimensional system. You cannot change this. This is how the human emotion works.

In the last years I have met new clients who were never been that happy with their systems. I brought them all to a 3 dimensional system. Their reactions are priceless.

But this is only a part of Tru-Fi. Because diversity in sound is even more important. Based on a lot of research and tests  we are now able to create a higher of diversity in sound as well.

It is very simple all people will always prefer the sound what reveals the highest level in emotion.

Yesterday we compared the Lumin S1 against the new Esoteric N-05. The stage of the S1 is a lot deeper and wider. So here again you see how important the dna is of each part you judge sound for.

I have been addicted to music and sound all my life. Togheter with friends we frequently visit live concerts. And we see that also overhere there is a lot to improve. Soon we will start doing tests with S.A.P. for live music.

+1 @jetter

wow

bo1972: "I can garantee you 100% that a loudspeaker who creates a stunning 3 dimensional holographic stage will influence your emotion and level of exitement a lot."

I definitely agree with that one.

Best to you,
Dave

How stuppid can you be to use the word hate. I do not hate any kind of brand. I want people in audio to become more open and honest to consumers.

The focus need to be more on quality instead of making the most money. The way companies work in audio will decrease the market each single year.

When you want to persuade more people to buy audio, you need to give them quality. I met so many people in the last years that were not happy with their system. The main reason is the lack of knowledge and insight in audio. But also the low level of quality you see in many products.

This will only have a bad influence on the market. I would love to see Wilson Audio to use new and beter materials. So consumers will get more value for money.

I think about B&W the same way. They should focus more on quality. For example better crossovers, new design in tweeters. I don’t hate any brand.

They all see that the market is decreasing. But when you focus on short time distance and you use cheaper parts than people will walk away.

I love music and audio to death. I want to share my passion with as many people possible. Giving them the highest level in realism and emotion.

Wilson was a pioneer in charging prices that obliterated previous limits and delivering speakers wrapped in (then) exotic automotive finishes.  That combo struck some people as a bad thing - and likely accounts for some of the "haters".

When a loudspeaker is not able to create a lot of stage depth and width, we will never sell it. Don’t forget that over 99% of all audio systems which are being sold are 2 dimensional.

Yesterday we did a test with the new Esoteric N-05. The person who does Esoteric in the Benelux visited over a week ago a shop who also has the B&W 800D3.

They did test many amps on the 800D3 and they said; we were not able to create more than 1 metre of stage depth. I can garantee for 100% thas this is the max.

When you own a loudspeaker of 30.000 dollar and it only can create 1 metre of stage depth you limit yourself.

I can garantee you 100% that a loudspeaker who creates a stunning 3 dimensional holographic stage will influence your emotion and level of exitement a lot.

I do never copy a text, but yes I write often the same kind of information. I want to keep it as simple as possible.

I visited many people with expensive systems. Most of them were not happy with their system. Now they know that the flat stage was an important part why they did not want to listen to their system anymore.

Based on the experience of people and their information I stopped selling any kind of 2D audio. The level of becoming one with the music is of a much lower level.