Why do hipsters prefer analog?


Hipsters started with vinyl records, then cassettes, then 8-tracks, then R2R.  Where will they stop?

chris_g

Because they have extraordinary taste. BTW, what's wrong with finger tattoos? 

@chris_g  You mention hipsters in another post too. Seems like something's up. Everything okay? 

Well, as long as hipsters don't get into CDs, SACDs, DVD-A or Blu-Ray audio, that's all I care about.  Hipsters can keep their analog trash. 

is vintage the same as hipster in audio? These days I mean. I am sure they will move onto the next iPod, Beat headphones and finger tattoos next year

why do old audiophiles like such terrible music?  Ya mean why do MOST people like such terrible music

This times 1,000.

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@noromance That seems like a good deed you did.

You probably contributed to that person’s improved quality of life.

My friend had enjoyed listening to vinyl on my system.  He started asking about what he should get, gear-wise.  I wanted him to neither be intimidated by the price/inconvenience of vinyl playback nor end up with gear that would cause him to miss out on what vinyl is.  I had some disposable income at the time, consider him a dear friend, so I bought him a $500 AT-LP140XP for his b-day.  It’s a tough thing to care about music playback but also not be rich.  I don’t have a lot of experience with turntables in the $200-$400 range, there may well be some gems, but I feel something hardy is best to start with for a music fan.  That purchase may have been I’ll-informed, but I had a friend who listened to an extremely modest system with the cheapest TT in the AT-LP line (about $150) and was surprised how decent the sound was.  I figured the 140XP would be a good place for a discerning music fan to start without breaking the bank or settling for something inadequate.

@tylermunns The intervention was a reasoned explanation of why this was not the best investment they could make. They put the Crosley back and seemed to vibe with the argument. They also assured me their initial purchase decision wasn't based on affordability but simply that they had no clue about turntables or hi-fi.

@noromance That’s funny.  That’s like putting fresh oysters in the microwave.

The charge of, “y’all just a bunch of curmudgeons yelling, ‘get off my lawn!” I reject.

People say, “easy now, these people keep the format alive.”  Do they?  For whom?  Affluent people who can afford ridiculous prices?  People who can afford a $50 vinyl record to take home and slap down on a $100 TT? (because they don’t care to understand how vinyl playback actually works)

What about the people that “kept the format alive” in the ‘80s, ‘90s, and ‘00s?  How integral were they to the format’s survival?  How grateful should they be for people exponentially jacking up the price of their beloved commodities, so those people may enjoy the cachet vinyl affords them, only for them to ultimately carve the grooves to smithereens with garbage gear?  I would say asking those people to, “be grateful for hipsters” is a bit much.

Making fun of hipsters is fun.  Everyone loves it.  No harm, no foul, as I see it. 
 

I intervened when hipsters at Newbury Comics had the $50 DSOTM in one hand and a $69 Crosley in the other.

Well, a topic such as this, is there truly much to be learned, larry5729?  Maybe the progression might read:  tubed radios, wire recorder, reel-to-reel,  Victrola w/turntable, 8-track, cassette, stand-alone-turntables & receiver, separates...then, true madness ensuing.  Pin

My daily search for intelligent life often begins with this forum.  While I'm not sure this objective has been met today, it's certainly been entertaining.

I thought this was a discussion forum designed for people to learn.  I can see why some have dropped out.  

A "hipster" has double hip replacement enabling him to flip Benny Goodman.   More Peace and Happy 4th!    Pin

I hear you're buying a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and are throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real. You want to make a Yaz record.

I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars.

I hear everybody that you know is more relevant than everybody that I know.

 

 

Hipsters love some of the vintage audio gear, the wood and silver ones.  They love tubes also.  I wonder why. 

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larry5729

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I have not listened to a tube amp. I would think the highs and the details would not be as pronounced as a good digital amp. There must be a reason why audio switched from tube to digital. Is it the nostalgia and the looks of glowing tubes. Is it the opportunity to invest in replacement tubes? This might sound stupid. Since tubeamps are analog I am guessing there would not be need for a DAC. I have never had this explained to me.

 

Are you serious? You’ve said some questionable stuff here before, but this might be the best of the best……

 

And what a sunny outlook on life you have...

Is the world about to end again??

I didn't catch wind of that. Better check my spam folder...

@larry5729 - go get yourself a top shelf tube amp before the apocalypse - which may be any day now the way things are going. 

Hi, larry.

Amps are neither analog nor digital, the sources of your music are.

If you are sourcing a digital medium, you need a dac.

If they are analog, you don't.

"Since tubeamps are analog I am guessing there would not be need for a DAC. I have never had this explained to me."

Are you serious Larry?

I have not listened to a tube amp.  I would think the highs and the details would not be as pronounced as a good digital amp.  There must be a reason why audio switched from tube to digital.  Is it the nostalgia and the looks of glowing tubes.  Is it the opportunity to invest in replacement tubes?  This might sound stupid.  Since tubeamps are analog I am guessing there would not be need for a DAC. I have never had this explained to me.

 

I remember playing a guitar with both a tube amp and a digital amp and I thought the tube amp sounded better.  I also believe a small tube amp put out more volume than a much larger digital amp.  However, that was many years ago.  I wonder if there is a book I could read that would explain this.  Perhaps, this is my new homework.  There is so much to learn.  The biggest thing I haven’t learned so far is how to get the boss to allow me to spend more money.  She will say out of 1,300 homes in our community there might only be two homes with a stereo sound system.  What still amazes me is how 98% watch TV by using their TV speakers.  I think sound is 80% or more of the movie experience.

I got her in to vinyl and we make trips to the record store together. Going to miss her when she goes back to school. She was by my side when I had my small stoke and found me in my listening room. Good person unlike her pops. 

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@jerryg123 You lucky dude! She’s a doll and daddy’s girl taken care of her pops. Nice story. lol....that would be the time frame alright. I'm going to get some now! :)

@ericvm the only reason I know is I went shopping for clothes with my 19 year old daughter and she picked a pair out for me. Feel like Steve McQueen in the Great Escape when I wear them. or maybe Bullet….lol.

The hipster’s not with it man! He needs to be wearing his Levi cordes, Desert Boot shoes and Members Only jacket. :)

I'm glad they are interested in a full music experience. 

Maybe they think it sounds better.  That’s why I like vinyl.  Why is someone judged differently if they have the same opinion or taste?

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Less accessibility = harder work = exclusivity = whatever you call a hipster

If a hipster wanted to be hip, he couldn't because everybody else was trying to be hip and it wouldn't be hip.

A take off of Yogi Berra saying nobody goes there anymore because it's too crowded (or something like that).

What the hell is a "hipster"?

I went through the exact tech sequence you mention and I’m anything but a hipster.

In audio, I go where my ears take me...right now it’s R2R, specifically NOS digital.