I may have missed it, but after 128 responses no mention of what is, without a doubt, the most useless term in Audio; or, at least the most misused term in Audio:
”ACCURATE”
Accurate, compared to what? The term is, more times than not, used to describe a spectral balance on the leaner/brighter side of that particular listener’s idea of what “neutral” is; whatever that may be. Nonsense! For something to be accurate it has to be so in comparison to a specific standard or, in this case, a specific type of sound. Good luck with that. However, the sound of live acoustic sound is a good (best) start.
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“Bargain” for a $20,000 component. |
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"very neutral" - there are no degrees of neutral. |
...well, if talking beer, local micro breweries are my favorites, especially on tap from a keg that are un-pasteurized...the idea of heating beer is a good way to kill a great beer.
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Best gear I’ve ever owned, regardless of price … the only reason I’m selling after owning it for six weeks is ….. |
If using Budweiser as a reference please remember all other beer will taste.
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+1 ‘gobsmacked’. Nothing wrong with it just overused these days.
I don’t see anything wrong with ‘reference’ if used appropriately. That is, if the person is saying it is their reference. Just like someone might use Budweiser as a reference for how all other beer tastes. Then they can say another beer has more alcohol, or subjectively tastes dryer, etc. Even if the reviewer suggests the gear is ‘reference’ potential for some owner, I.e. something to judge other components by, it’s still ok. But yes, used as hyperbole only, it does fit with others like ‘the best’. In other words, bastardized to imply it should be everyone’s reference as better than everything else available. A true reference could be a piece of crap, but it’s a starting place to gauge other things against. |
Right. Well pole dancers anyway.
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So dancers don't audition for parts in ballets and musicals? |
@edcyn
@millercarbon -- I've auditioned every car I ever bought. They call it a test drive. It's always nice to know if the seat is comfortable, you can see out of it, and if the controls...as they used to say...fall readily to hand.
You didn't really "audition" your car. Audition comes from audio - to hear. Maybe it wasn't the seat you were interested in but the V8 rumble. |
Old school is the Oracle at Delphi….. |
Does "Old School" mean Ivy League or Oxford?
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"a sense of air around the instruments" . Evidently the brass or woodwind players are blowing too strongly?
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I admit that I don’t know what “musical” is supposed to convey. Seems like it’s just a lexicalization for “I like the way the music sounds when played through this component.” But if it means something more specific, I'm open to correction. |
Just today I ran thru the 5-6 youtube reviewers I track. Only two I can believe and neither reside in the US. Not darkoe. |
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What are the current useless terms in this "audio world" Without a doubt, >$150 AC mains fuses, that are said to also be directional. THE BIGGEST LOAD OF ** I HAVE COME ACROSS IN THIS INDUSTRY Cheers George |
it seems that the audition then marriage of a mate doesn’t guarantee good mileage or longevity. |
@millercarbon -- I've auditioned every car I ever bought. They call it a test drive. It's always nice to know if the seat is comfortable, you can see out of it, and if the controls...as they used to say...fall readily to hand. |
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@millercarbon When I hear Electrician, I think of a licensed and certified person who can legally work with electrical components, dealing with electricity
When I hear Professional, I think of someone with a professional education degree first, a doctorate for example
When I hear that someone ran or run a business, I think of an entrepreneur, for profit, providing a service or product.
Some words evoke immediate images and are not difficult to assess.
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@millercarbon Nope, when I hear the word salad, it means to me a mixture of various foods, generally cold and generally food in small size pieces. It could be a fruit salad, vegetable salad, tuna salad, chicken salad, potato salad, etc. Not necessarily involving a vegetable (fruit) or predominantly involving a vegetable (tuna/chicken). |
It’s sounds like the day it was recorded. Who the hell was there that day. I guarantee most are not old enough to have attended the recording or even have been invited to. Talking about the analog days. |
ROTFLMAO!
Engineer (recording, electrical, fill in the blank)
Electrician
Professional
ran a business
run a business
build quality
geometry
quantum
tunnel
Tesla
audition (you tried it, okay? Did you "audition" your car?)
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‘I’m an ex-audio salesman/ex-engineer”,,,, (So everybody should realize my opinion is so correct and important). |
"""" having said that """ |
oldhvymec, Where do you live? |
"Trust me..." Following a load of nothing but highly perfumed manure masquerading as perceptive, personal insights.
"You'll thank me..." Following another load of manure dressed up as an authoritative statement negating any contrary facts or opinions. |
Yes , gobsmacked. Thanks Roxy54 |
JS Smith, I think you forgot one... grainy.
It use to be that an 18" subwoofer could not delineate the upper bass very good because it was to big (hence slow)-- it couldn't come back to it's starting point 'fast' enough to transduce the next note.
Because of that 'pitch definition' was lacking. Seems fast is ok... |
buellrider97,
I think that you mean gobsmacked. |
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"I would much rather they compare the velocity of a tweeter's diaphragm with an unladen swallow."
Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow? |
Tube watts, unequivocally "the best" in high end, are not warm sounding but natural as scientifically determined in a God smackingly double-blind testing shootout. Try it you'll like it. With a full loom. I am clearly on a roll here and so-
It seems on ebay, here, craigslist and others a current pet of Sellers is taking something to "the next level" Pretty sure Sellers pet is a parrot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKJuzrCGj4
Yes. Definitely a parrot. https://youtu.be/CARc1uUq1lA?t=15 |
"parentheses" - or brackets, my use of these on the words "Audio World" was and is the sarcasm I meant
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“ I was God Smacked “. The last time I had this experience resulted in 4 fractured vertebrae and 2 broken ribs . |
fynnegan,
I don't understand your comment. Unequivocally is a perfectly useful word in the right context, and has nothing to do specifically with audio. Why should it be banned?
Full loom refers to using one brand of wires exclusively for interconnects speaker cables power cords etc. What's so strange about that? |
Full loom
Unequivocally
I am not a native English speaker, so I pay attention to different things than native speakers. These words constantly pop up in audio related articles and discussions.
The first one is a strange expression and almost exclusively used in audio talk.
The second is a word which should be banned. |
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A term I don’t like, but doesn’t squarely fall under “useless” is “high end” audio. I much prefer “high fidelity” audio because I can tell that to those not in our hobby “high end” is interpreted as we are more concerned about price and bling than what is most important - the pursuit of high fidelity sound. I for one am certainly not seeking out “high end” audio when looking through this perception lens. |
Snake Oil... If it works for you, it's the greatest thing in the world.
"Try it you'll like it" (you older folks will remember this one although nothing to do with audio). |
Musical
Analytical
Fast
Lush
Warm
Airy
Presence
Delicate
Sparkle
Speed
Texture
Veiled
All terms with non-specific meanings that are open to wide interpretation or are mythical (like a 'fast' subwoofer), and therefore useless. I'm sure there are many more I've forgotten. |
End Game - Who are they kidding? |
Warm sounding
Tube Watts
Listening to wires and entertainment stands
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