The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....

@tommylion

Hmmm. I still have not got a satisfying answer that calms my enquiring mind. I am not convinced. I cannot engineer it. Sorry.

@tommylion After a bit of thought (not sarcasm) the fuse wire is designed to handle the maximum amperage load of the unit (amp, server etc). Therefore it would stand to reason that there is no need to enhance it. It has a job to do, over amperage/voltage to protect everything downstream from damage, not to enhance a signal. Am I wrong? Or is my rock kicking/ building/ traffic engineering experience along the wrong stream?

I am not an electrical engineer (civil) but I do know the best electrical conductor is pure silver, then pure copper. What is in Graphene to make it change the effect of AC current power cable, fuses, speaker cable etc all of which have different cable and current properties?

I need to have something I can understand. TC sounds like woman's cosmetics. you can put any of the brands on and skin moisture properties change, but does not stop wrinkles. Cosmetics are the worst of the fault "science" perpetrators.

@Tommylion

The fuse is between AC plug and transformer, not thereafter. That's where the power is transformed, lost and mixed. Goo on a cable, or a fuse won't after what is after the fuse.

@geoffkait Graphene is no more a superconductor than the 2 metals I stated before. Plus it has modifying glue to form a liquid to paint, bond and dry, thus diluting the graphene mixture or whatever. Putting superconductive materials on the ends of crap wire will still expose what was there before, as is goes through crap wire (assuming this Graphene mixture is better than pure silver or pure copper, which needs to be from end of fuse to end of speaker driver, otherwise the signal is degraded. Correct me if I am wrong, but you cannot put more water through a pipe even if you increase the pressure and put silver taps on the end. The physics just doesn't add up.

The passage of a signal, be it electrical (or traffic as in cars), will only be as good as the worst juncture, cable, component as traffic flow is as only as good as the worst intersection. I just cannot understand a change in "performance". Only a change in the travel condition, or as it HiFi, is the sound. It's only as good as the worst point.

Adrian (amateur HiFi'ist) retired eng.

@tommlion04-20-2018 11:28pm

It's not about trying something to see if it works for you. One only needs to go to your favourite HiFi store to try gear out. Not always do we walk back out with something. The more a product is stuffed down your throat, the less persuasive is the argument for the product.

I still do not have an eloquent answer for why fuses or graphene at the ends of contact points work in the way of the lord. Next we will have sponsors walking on water.

I have heard to many spruikers, and have been ripped off by very few, to swallow the fuse and TC goo story.

@geoffkait 

I think there are more who are not using SR fuses for the reason of no proof than the few spruiking them on this thread. Same with TC.

I haven't seen any factual industrial or scientific proof on either products. Just a lot of here-say. I asked for proof and got nothing. Do you have it?

This will be my last post on fuses and Graphene/TC or what our supposed US compatriots call them.

We go to war together and watch each others backs. I write a reasonable question on AudioGon and get stabbed in the back, insulted without apology by a nasty few (I we know who they are) for asking "where's  the proof". At least I apologise if I am out of the respectable line. You few have no respect at all. Good luck to you.

Strewth wud epm ear? Sumnubbady nose or dimention it. Om oiz srenna by eediots. Wassa mare view. Oil ave a decko on m'a ornry stro. Reckon os ya peck o' baastuds. Gotta go ya eejuts, salada!

Just couldn't help myself, and yes I have read TC and Fuse forums...

As a responsible engineer I research and look for facts that are credible and repeatable; not opinions, and here-say; but researched fact backed up and written by the manufacturer.

I found this advert on a US distributor:

"New UEF Graphene coating, two years in development, and UEF quantum treatments make the BLUE fuse significantly more holographic and dynamic than even the incredible SR BLACK fuse. Resolution and musicality are second to none."

"Unlike the Black Quantum fuse, the Blue Quantum fuse needs only 24 hrs to start opening up. And from then on it only gets better every day..."

Not only blue fuses, but UEF Graphene (TC), so there is a link. And further I looked, guess who the reviews were written by.,...

Oregonpapa for one, and being the first...

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@geoffkait When it comes to contact enhancers, The King of the Hill of course is Quicksilver Gold, no longer available, which trumped all previous concoctions, including Quicksilver, the previous champ. You can forget about all the other prior stuff. For cleaning I like Cramolin and Deoxit type cleaners. If the new concoction can beat Quicksilver Gold I’ll eat a bug. 🐛 Pour your hearts out. Put your back into it, lads. 🏋🏻‍♀️ I’m rather used to reading purple prose. 😈

Hipocrite...

I could go on..  and on ... and on... about a lot of you.

I am after the truth and facts. Seems you lot come up a bit short. Even tripping over your own feet.

To me it stands to reason that if someone you do not know states something that is unheard of, the first question, well my first question would be is how. Then, can I read about it. Then, what are the figures. Can they be repeatable.

Well I've read 2-3 years of threads, and contradictions.

Oregonpapa seems to be the only poster who has remained steadfast.

I cannot fork out AUD$325 for a fuse let alone 6 or 7. Nor can I fork out AUD$400 on TC and In would not do so unless I have proof they work. It would take 30 days for 6-7 fuses to get to Australia let alone a warranty period, which is blinking short for any product of it's supposed standing. Why aren't SR standing up behind their products

There are too many holes in this promotion to believe.

Geoff, don't treat me like a dummy. I know exactly what Grapheme is. It is the wet leg you started. I can aim a lot higher.

Truce guys, truce. Lets agree to disagree but lets not allow this fine forum AudioGon go to the dogs, where we are at each are either out insulting each other or disrespecting the products that, I am sure of, people have worked to make work.

Ok, at times we have conformational or expectation bias. Agreed. Lets call it at that. I can't disprove what you perceive, I can't prove it wrong, nor are there evidential proof one way or another.

This goes to all the other threads as well. I feel very uncomfortable knowing that I have contributed to the insults and personal and product putdowns. I feel uncomfortable posting something not knowing whether I'll get a thrashing for it. It's not a nice feeling to be excluded in a hobby I love as much as you all,

Can we just call a truce and be civil with each other. I am sure there will be other posters who will respect us more for it.

Adrian

Sorry, I just have enough facing me at the moment to allow these threads get me down. I found out I had the big "C" 6 weeks ago and I have an op on the 1st. Previous to this I was more than likely angry, but let it out here.

I have bigger things to peck about. A.

Heh....   I am out of the battlefield and will watch from the sidelines. It will make for good viewing anyway.

Thanks for the best wishes.

I'll be in good care, and I'll have this crappy notebook with the keyboard that has a mind of its own (I swear it's possessed sometimes) to keep in touch while in hospital.

@geoffkait Geoff, take a Valium mate. Life is to short. So forget the competition and let it go. Listen to some good music and enjoy what you hear.

@perfectpathtech Thank you. I appreciate that.

@georgehifi I wish I had an AMG but my initials are as close as I'll get. I had a Duc 900SD ducktail and conti's. Was temperamental in winter and the oil was thick the electric start couldn't do it. If you got the kickstart wrong it'd boot you over the handlebars, or bark your shin raw. That was before the new 750 motor came out. Should have taken warning when I bought in Sydney and rode home to Canberra in the dark, rain and Winter. Took days to thaw out.

I must admit, my electronics background included industrial 24/7 traffic signal controllers which needed to react within 1/100s of a second. The triac drive circuits had fast blow for the above reasons. The rest of the controller boards used slow blow for similar reasons as explained by George.

:) AMG

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@geoffkait .Its AMG56... get it right, RIGHT.

"But the score is about 20,000 to 5", or so you think. Have you been counting? Wake up and engage your brain and get your facts in order, if you can. You can go back to sleep now. Oh, you never woke up in the first place? Typical.

Hello everyone, I'm back...

This whole post especially the last 1/4 reminds me of the great scene by Abbot and Costello "Who's on first base...."

The main protagonists are commenting on the just previous comments, and on it goes.

The question still remains, do Blue fuses make the significant change that some audiophiles say they do irrespective of the equipment used (has anyone used them for equipment that is not HiFi?), OR, do they not make a discernible change to some systems?

As there is no PROOF either way as per...

a fact or piece of information that shows that something exists or is true:

[ + that ] Do they have any proof that it was Hampson who stole the goods?

I have a suspicion that he's having an affair, though I don't have any concrete (= definite) proof.

If anyone needs proof of Andrew Davies' genius as a writer, this novel is it.

"How old are you?" "21." "Do you have any proof on you?"

Keep your receipt as proof of purchase.