Hi Steve,
Mac has owned Legacy speakers but I have not. (We had the Magnepan 1.7's in common.) Sorry I can't help you.
Mac has owned Legacy speakers but I have not. (We had the Magnepan 1.7's in common.) Sorry I can't help you.
Tekton Double Impacts
Anybody out there heard these??
I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft. Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs. For the vast majority of music I love this system. The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so. For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer. Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's. Really don't want to deal with that approach.
Enter the Double Impacts. Many interesting things here. Would certainly have a different set of strengths here. Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.
I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that. Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers
Thanks.
I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft. Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs. For the vast majority of music I love this system. The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so. For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer. Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's. Really don't want to deal with that approach.
Enter the Double Impacts. Many interesting things here. Would certainly have a different set of strengths here. Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.
I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that. Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers
Thanks.
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Sorry Steve, I missed your earlier post. I would think the DI's would suit your needs more so than the Legacy Focus SE's. I found the DI's to be more dynamic and more "live" sounding. I listen mostly to acoustical music but occasionally like to rock out and the DI's handle both with equal aplomb but are especially good for rocking out to. The Legacys were great speakers but to me the DI's could to everything they could do with added dynamics and slam. Thanks Al. I'll need to get some longer IC's and try moving the MZ further away. |
Ozzy it seems we all want to “help” you. Lucky you 🙂. To that end here are more considerations. I think you are spot on wanting an external crossover. Did you ever get an answer on that? If I did not buy my set used, then I was going to ask Eric for an external board. Looking at your systems over the years and your propensity for DIY and upgrades the DI with outboard XO boards would be fantastic for you. Best sandbox you could ever play in regarding speakers. The problem is you won’t be able to return such a “custom” set. I would caution you on the 4 ohm version with Ralph’s wonderful amps. My experience is that particular impedance combo will cause a frequency Imbalance that is not ideal sounding. This is just speculation, as Eric does not show impedance curves as you know, but I bet the impedance is lower in the highs possibly dropping to 3 ohms or so on some frequencies. This is not an ideal or even good situation for your amps as you well know. Not even sure you receive the same trial period on the 8 ohm version? He may consider the 8 ohm version custom? Not sure. I use a 70 watt (into 8 ohms) SS amp in a large room and the DI speakers certainly uses it on some recordings. It is not even close to being overkill. |
grannyring, Eric never replied to me. The girl that I spoke to on the phone finally emailed me about the external crossover possibility with a simple no. No response about the 8 ohm version. jayctoy, It looks like it will never happen, but thank you. Lak, An hour away? We will need to plan a visit regardless. ozzy |
David, After experimenting with different tubes and cathode bypass switches the amp is sounding wonderful. I now understand what all the talk of SET magic is about. I got a taste of it with Charles' Frankensteins but experiencing it daily is a real treat. The Aric Audio 300B is amazingly powerful sounding, very dynamic, exceptional tone, beautiful midrange with a huge 3D soundstaging. The musical realism is addictive and I find myself spending a lot more time listening to music now. This is with EH 300B tubes, I can't wait to hear how it will sound with the EML XLS 300B's I'm ordering tomorrow. You could say I'm quite happy with it! ;) |
I cannot go through all of the posts on this thread. I believe this has been asked but I don't remember it being answered. What is the difference between the DI and the SE version? The website says nothing. What makes up the $3000 difference in price? If it is different drivers, what are they using? Last question, does anyone know if there will be an SE version of the Electron model? |
ozzy, I asked Eric to check this thread and respond to you, give him a call and be sure to ID yourself, you will get through to Eric. @csmgolf , SE version uses made to Tekton spec'd drivers instead of off the shelf, I think better crossover parts than the DI w/upgrades, and I believe the cabinet is just a little bit bigger. |
Nitrobob, Will be interesting to hear your comparison since Ascend is known to be a Big Bang for your buck product. I have a pair of Vapor Stiff Breeze with the Raal. They impress the hell out of me in a lot of ways. They only stayed hooked up for about a week before I put the DIs back in. I could see though how someone could prefer one presentation over the other. Trying to figure out room for a second system for them. Give them 50-60 hours to break in. They sound great out of the box but a tad edgy IMO. |
mofojo ... Thanks . I also have 2 PSA 1801 18 inch 750 watt subs that I'm not real sure how their going to fit into this picture . Might use one and cross the DI over at 60, use the PSA's(s) below that... I doubt I'll need both . But these DI will see plenty of 112 -113 db levels with concerts. I like it punchy ...Just have to see |
David Ten I know, I hear that... ( or maybe I won’t LOL ) . But I’m getting up in years , and have been around loud all my life . 43 years in a food manufacturing plant, 20 plus years of racing cars .. If that hasn’t deafened me by now, it better hurry up ..Actually, I just retired, but the plant tested our hearing every year... And I always passed with flying colors, unlike a lot of my younger co-workers...Good genes I guess.. Here’s a video link from inside my race car. If you think this stuff is loud, you should try this.... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B86pK1I_DIA4MUd5aldja0EzbjA/view?usp=drive_web |
Double Impact SE details / specs posted at Tekton Design http://www.tektondesign.com/double-impact-se.html |
Hello all you audiophiles, I'm new on this forum but have been following it for some time now. I just ordered a pair of DI's with the upgrades. I consider myself as a Audiophile wana be as I don't have any real high end electronics but I do have high end speakers which I kept and still have which are Kef 103.2s (2pair) Kef 105.2s (1 pair) Pasetechnology 10.5s (I sold). I auditioned the GE Tritons but was not completely satisfied. Then I started reading and reading and reading all I could about these DIs, Well I'm sold after hearing all the positive feed back and ignored the negative. I even spoke to Eric briefly. Now onto my electronics, I have a Bryston 4bsst, a Acdcom 5ch 150w into 5ch, and Adcom 860 preamp. I also have a Mac 4100 receiver that's 75w into 8ohms and 100w into 4 ohms and I also have an 80s Tandburg 45w receiver. I have 2 questions to whoever can steer me in the right direction since I cant upgrade any of my electronics for a while. Which of my electronics do you think would work best with the DIs with what I have ? I was also thinking about running my Bryston through my Macs preamp Then trying just my recievers hooked up to the Did, any suggestions will help greatly. I would like to go tubes in the future. Now my 2nd question, which is a beauty, I live in a large A-frame house, my listening space is my living room which is almost but not quite a perfect triangle. Its 24'L x 24'W x 22'H. I have no choice but to use the angled wall to place the speakers on because one end wall has a double door an a large window on it, the other wall is open into the dining room and kitchen. That leaves me only with the angled walls to use for my speakers, Now when I place the DIs against this angled wall being 54"s tall they will be about 3"s away at the top of the speaker and about 3' away at the bottom. That sort of tells you the angle of the wall, But they will be 3 1/2 to 4ft away from the side wall and the other will be opened into the dining room. So the question is what do you think of the placement vs reflections, I hope I don't sound ignorant here but like I said I'm a wana be audiophile. Thank you for any feedback. |
Congrats on your DI purchase cliff, you're in for some fun. I would recommend trying out all of your electronics with the DI's to see which you like best. While I prefer small SET tube amps with mine others prefer large SS amps with them. The DI's will reveal what is placed upstream of them....for good or bad. The only way for you to find out what you'll like best is to try the different options. Have fun with it and let your ears determine your choice. While not traditional your angled walls might work out just fine. Hopefully you'll experience less harmful standing waves with those angled walls and ceilings. I'm certainly no expert on room acoustics but with some placement experimenting I bet you'll do just fine with the DI's in your room. For me I've found the more I can get them out into the room and away from the walls, the better they sound. Good luck! |
cliff, I agree with mac. You will just have to try your electronics and decide. I have listened to both SS and tubes. I enjoy both for different reasons. We've all said it over and over--the DI's will let you hear the sonic signature of your electronics. Avoid the temptation to let others decide for you what is best. But you can benefit from great insight and experience from this thread. I wouldn't begin to predict the behavior of your interesting room other than to say the DI's have a good chance of performing well. Modest room treatment may afford significant improvements as well. (If you want some DIY info here I can help.) Hope all had an enjoyable and thankful Thanksgiving. |
Thanks, The audiophiles on this forum sold me, I dont think they can make up there positive experience with the DIs and it's with them that I can safely make a critical choice for my wife and myself without being able to audition them in person. I know were in for a real eye opening jaw dropper. Thanks everyone here. |
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@cliffkhz and @stfoth Congratulations to both of you on taking that ’leap’ and ordering. Let us know how it works out in your rooms and with your gear and preferences. Adding to what @mac48025 and @corelli have shared, the better the upstream gear, including cabling, isolation, etc. the better the results..... |
@ozzy , I just read this on the Tekton owners Facebook page: "Listened to two different amps today with an Audiogon member. ATmasphere Mk-60 mono and a Rodger mojdeski built amp. The atmasphere mono amps were very good and drove the DI's nicely. Hardly even a load for them. NIce inner detail, transients and upper and mid range. The DI's will reveal anything put into them nicely. QUite the educational time. My BAT vk500 does most of this very well but the finesse of the ATmasphere tube amp is really superb. I am still interested in the Lyngdorf 2170, the BAT VK55SE, the Aric Audio Transcend seriesKT120SE amp.Good Times tonight" |
I was the Audiogon member that greg22lz referenced. I will say this about the DI's, in addition to being a great value, I think they could be one of the most versatile speakers I have heard when it comes to amp/speaker matching. We listened to a high powered BAT solid state amp, a moderately powered Music Reference RM-200, and the Atma-Sphere M-60s, the latter two I brought over for the listening session. While each amp had a unique presentation that delivered outstanding sound with the DIs, what amazed me was how effortlessly the M-60s drove them. This amp has its own power meter and it barely flickered, maybe, and I'm being generous, it kicked up to about 5 watts on peaks on a couple recordings. Listening levels were about 70 to 80 dB. No impedance issue from what I could tell. I had my Speltz Zeroes on hand and I never felt the need to insert them into the chain. In fact, I considered pulling some tubes out to drop the power output. Thanks Greg for the hospitality and great session. Now lets get you down to Marin to hear an ESL. |
@ozzy Best of luck moving forward on your audio journey. I tried the DI's and they weren't my cup of tea but I occasionally pop into this thread to stay in the loop. I just can't comprehend how many people are sticking up for his terrible customer service and acting like it's normal. I've never bashed these speakers or this company but it pains me to see people commenting silly things like "the cook doesn't always list his ingredients, he's too busy cooking" or whatever... And for Eric to just pop in this thread and not even apologize for leaving you hanging for three weeks. If he has time to answer questions in this thread, he has time to answer his business emails regarding his speakers which would seem like a priority, rather than scanning these forums. Why can't his secretary answer emails? Now this is just me connecting the dots here, but will he magically be available when/if there is a warranty or shipping issue? Cool speakers for the price for some people but what a joke on customer service. Remove your company email if it's not functioning. Sorry guys, rant over. |
