Tekton Double Impacts


Anybody out there heard these??

I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft.  Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs.  For the vast majority of music I love this system.  The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so.  For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer.  Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's.  Really don't want to deal with that approach.

Enter the Double Impacts.  Many interesting things here.  Would certainly have a different set of strengths here.  Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.

I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that.  Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers

Thanks.
corelli
@mac48025,  I am waiting on you’re review of the DI SE speakers. I only have to pick a color and am ready to place my order.
I'm hoping they ship this week, Lance. What color did you choose? I was going to get a screaming metallic yellow but opted for the BMW metallic mineral gray. Much more conservative than the BMW Phoenix Yellow but still sweet. 
Mac, I haven’t decided on a color yet but I sure would like to see that mineral grey.
Hi Cordlli,
Everything I’ve read or heard about the Audio Note Kit 300b SET has been positive. It as you note uses double C core output transformers (as does the Frankenstein ) these are held in very high regard.

My gut feeling is that this amplifier and Aric’s 300b SET would both be excellent with your Double Impacts. Different design and part selection yet I truly believe that either would make you proud and happy long term.

SET amplifiers are very simple circuits and probably why they are described as pure and natural sounding if built with dedication to high quality (no cutting corners) and implementing good transformers and power supplies. In my opinion you’ll get that with either of these choices. I like Aric’s decision to go with 6SL7+6SN7 pathway.
Charles


Sbayne, 
Thanks and I most certainly appreciate your contributions to this continually interesting (and gentlemanly) thread.
Charles 
Hi Charles,
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I should shoot Eric an email. I certainly like to patronize someone who cares about their work.  One thing I like about both Aric and Audio Note is the ability to customize your gear from the get go.  For example, while I favor an integrated, I have no need for an input selector.  More cost and potentially worse sound. One input is just fine.  Thanks again for your contributions to this thread.

Tom, you won't regret the metallic gray.  I  get the temptation of yellow.  But I'll save that for the sports car I'll never own. (I like to say that the Civic Si's I owned have payed for much of my audio gear.)
Hi Cordlli,
Yes, the ability to work closely with the amplifier builder who clearly understands your desires and needs is a substantial plus. If you do decide to have a 300b SET amplifier custom built I don’t believe you’ll regret it. Just know for sure what you want out of that amplifier and either of these builders Iam confident will come through for you.
Charles
Treebeard that’s a good video by Paul McGowan, my room can handle DI or ULfs then....thank you ...

FWIW I have had set of Tekton Brilliance speakers for about 6 months now.  I am running a Dennis Had Inspire LP-2 Pre and Dennis Had Inspire HotRod SEP Amp with KT tubes (currently KT-150s).  Fed by Sonos into a Shiit Bifrost Multibit and an iTube.  I also put a subwoofer in the system with the cutoff at 50hz.  About 1/3 of my music is lossless and the rest... not so much.

I love the sound from this system.  Big sound stage, great clarity, plenty of power and a very musical feel to the whole thing.  I listen to a lot of jazz, alternative, classical, and a bit of rock and it all sounds great.  I ran it with out a sub for maybe 5 months and it was great, but the sub gives it a bit of extra at the bottom that I like, but I think that's really a personal preference thing, you don't need to have a sub with these.

I went with the Brilliance after a bunch of conversations with Eric at Tekton.  I could not really fit the DI's into my room from a decor standpoint and after we talked through what I listen to and where I was heading from a system standpoint he suggested the Brilliance over the Impacts or the Electrons.  I have not heard any of those, but a friend of mine has a set of Lore's that I listened to before pulling the trigger.  Compared to the Lore's the Brilliance are a similar animal in my opinion, just... more.   All I can say is I'm very happy with them. 

I definitely want to know what that resistor mod thing is about. But then again it’s NO mystery that all DI’s are not built the same. Just read Grannyrings later posts.
Oh well. No resistor in series with the 6.5 inch midrange drivers in my set or any other set I have seen the insides of with builds thru September. Seems he is padding them back a tad with some resistors? Interesting. Right now just 220uf cap in series and an inductor.

Like to know the value of the resistor he decided to add in series.  If someone finds out please let us know.  
Congrats theachean,
Sounds like you put together a great system for really reasonable money. I’ve wanted to hear one of Dennis Had’s amps for a while now. I know the Brilliance is one of Eric’s favorite designs. No doubt you’re getting good sound. Good luck!
I looked inside my speakers and there was indeed an IOU note for a pair of missing resistors. J/K ~ My pair sound just fine even without any added resistance. Keep Calm & Play On! 
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I hear you stfoth, my wallet floats after the last couple of months!

I think you'll be very happy with the MZ2, Aric amp and Tekton combination. I sure am. 

Like you I admire and appreciate the efforts of the likes of Eric, Aric and while I have no experience with Dennis I'm sure he fits right in. Hand built products by men passionate about audio, talented in their craft and committed to providing high end gear at very reasonable prices........right here in the US. Gotta luv it. 
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I settled on NOS Tungsol round plate 12SN7's with Sylvania Gold Brand 12AT7's and really like that combo in the MZ2. 


@theachean  Great to hear and thanks for sharing about your Brilliance speakers.

@stfoth  Great combination of gear. Looking forward to your continued reports on your system. Many lightened wallets due to this thread.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Brilliance, Achean!  I've had mine for about a year. It is coupled with my First Watt J-3, Oppo Universal Player, and Placette Audio pre-amp/ Passive Line Stage.  Many nights I listen to classical with my VPI Classic 2 & Soundsmith Voice. 
I've been talking with Eric Alexander about upgrading to the Brilliance PMD, but am very pleased with the speakers I'm using now.  I sense a certain clarity in the Brilliance that I missed in the D/I, but that could be my taste along.  I'd be interested in how you've placed your Brilliance in your room. BTW, a while ago  I tried to start a page on the Brilliance but got no takers.  This is  sort of a repeat of what I posted there. Are there any other Brilliance users lurking on this site?
Got a question for Tekton Speaker Owners with Grills. I just received my grills for my Electrons. The grills are well built. However, they don’t seem like they fit the shape of the speaker cabinet. The corners of the grills are not flush with the corners of the speaker cabinet. The Speakers Cabinets have a rounded corner yet the Grills have a sharp corner, so the grill corners are sticking out a bit. Is this what you all have as well? Thanks
I hope not, but I'v been looking at my DIs and I can see where they would have to be because of the drivers being so close to the edge of the cabinets. The holes for the pins to go in are very close to the edge also, which looks to me like the edge of the grills will stick out past the round over. Agh... Oh well. BTW my review of these speakers will be in the near future, just 20hrs into break in. So far so sweet.

Mazikrav

My setup is in my living room and would not be categorized as a "listening room".  There is an assortment of random couches and so forth kind of in the way.  The room is about 14x24ish and I have the speakers set up along one of the short walls.  They are about 2 feet each way from the corners.  My sub is about 40% of the way along that same short wall.  It's an old NHT that I had kicking around.  The amp for the NHT allows me to cut out the signal above 50/80/100 hz.  I found 50 hz was the best setting.  I listen about 10 feet from the speakers and have them toed in to cross about 3 feet behind me.  Despite the furniture etc, there is a pretty clear path from the speakers to where I listen, so it works out well.  My neighbor across the way is a bassist and jazz nut and I had him help me dial in the settings.  It's possible bourbon was involved.  I am not sure if I'd need a sub with a different amp.  I'd be neat to hook up a big SS amp sometime and hear that.

I really like the way these sound.  My neighbor and I go to the local jazz fest during one week in the summer and this year we would go hear a few acts and then do an "after event decompress" with my system and listen to some of the same acts we had just heard live.  It's not "live" but its pretty good.  That was before I put the sub in the mix, I can't wait to do it next year.

FWIW I'm also in the group waiting for grills...

Mazikrav

What do you think the Brilliance PMDs will offer for the extra $7k?  I'm curious what Eric has to say since there isn't anything much on the website.

Best

@aniwolfe yes, this is what they are and, as a fine furniture maker, I did not like it at first but they are actually fine. They define a squareish line while looking at them from the front. I have the black speakers and the black cloth is actually a dark brown. Blacks are hard to match anyway, but again, you only see it from certain angles and in certain lights. I like the grills because they take the attention off of the  the speaker faces. They calm it all down. It would be rather difficult to round those tops of the grills, but it would be possible. Frankly I think they just tidy up the whole scene.

So, I have to comment on the Tekton DI's after many hours and many changes in my system. The big change was replacing my BAT vk500 with the BAT VK55se. This has really made a huge difference. While the vk500 is a very very nice amp, sweet sound, unerring power, quiet, tube like and liquid, the 55se just blew this up to another level. The DI's can take any input effortlessly and put it out into the room in such a musical manner. All changes, no matter how small, are revealed. Power cord changes made the imaging more accurate, CT GE speaker cables brought tremendous soundstage and oh so black background. The CT GE IC's just reinforced it all. With an all BAT tube system the suppleness combined with a robust "meat on the bones" sound is really quite lively. The bass is to die for. Never have I heard such bass. The transients at all frequencies are incredible. On Herbie Hancock's 'Piano' I can hear his foot on the pedals in quiet passages. I have real trouble with Keith Jarrett jamming up the music with his off key howling, too much to take. The detail is superb from top to bottom. These speakers are really really good, and I haven't started the mods on them yet. Very detailed, very neutral. I got a chance to hear a pair of Magico M6. That left me with some interesting impressions of what a speaker could be capable of, both good and not so good. I knew I wanted to go tube when I heard, for the first time ever since as a kid listening to a tubed stereo console, an Atma sphere mk60 monos. I heard what a tube amp can do but they were thin sounding, very unlike the BAT 55se. 
I am very happy with this sound, these speakers, this system to the point that I can really foresee just a few improvements left to get the best that these are capable of giving. If there is anybody on the fence with these speakers then take that leap and see for yourself that these are amazing. I have no affiliation with Tekton, nor do I receive any kind of payment for comments. I first read about these on this thread and simply took a chance because some of these dudes are pretty experienced with very good performing equipment that isn't expensive, relatively speaking. The all BAT tube system really puts this over the top for me even though there isn't a lot of information out there about the 55se, or even the vkd5se cdp. Again, thank you for putting it out there and especially @kdude66 and @grannyring for pushing the envelope even further!!!!
Best,
Greg
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@stfoth, my house is old and old in the winter moths but the ss vk500 threw out about the same amount. I can't see how monblocks would be any better with these as they are very efficient .
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Thechean:  Thanks for asking.  fyi, I'm not asking for any special finish on my Brilliance PMD model, so the price differential won't be as large as you suggest. At any rate, I believe mine will be among the first of these that Eric has built, so all he has said is 'more of the good qualies of the Brilliance'  I'm lucky enough to live close enough to Eric so I can provide more specifics after the speakes are built.  Sorry I can't be more specific.

Thanks, everyone, for an informative thread. First post on Agon. 

I am close to pulling the trigger on the DI’s. I currently am using Polk rti-A3 standpoint speakers and have their tweeters at ear level. With the DIs, the tweeter array will be quite a bit higher than my ears at my listening position. Does anybody else have the array above their ears? If so, is it a non-issue?

thanks!
kristofa,
I'm unclear on why your listening position will be lower than the tweeter array given they are floorstanding.  How much lower?
@kristofa,  the tweeter array in my system is also above my head especially since I have them sitting higher on maple platforms with brass footers. The sound is spectacular. I’m getting all of the good stuff. I wouldnt worry about it.
@kristofa

You can also try raising the back of the speakers with the adjustable feet so the tweeter array points down a bit towards you.

The tweeter height was an issue for me and was one of the reasons why I chose the Electrons over the DI's.
My tweeter array is about 6" higher than my ears and I don't notice any decrease in sound quality at all. I raised my listening chair to put my ears level with the middle tweeter and didn't hear any difference.

Lance, are you using Mapleshade platforms and brass footers under your speakers? Threaded brass footers into the speakers and heavy or megafeet under the platform? 

Mazikrav

I'm excited about hearing what the PMDs are like!  Let us know.

Ah, vicarious living...

@kristofa  In my more 'distant' seating position, my ears are aligned with the top most tweeter in the array. In my 'closer' seating postion my ears are aligned with the top of the midrange woofer (just below the lowest tweeter in the array). I'm quite happy with both positions, though I favor the higher / distant postion.

The Double Impacts have a very broad sweet spot (read volume or space due to the three dimensions), on all three axes.
@mac48025,

I am using Mapleshade Threaded Brass Heavyfoot Speaker Upgrade Kit and Timbernation 3” maple platforms with spikes through carpet.

Lance
With the spikes inserted into the speaker base, your ears (at 40 inches) will be level (approximately) with the lowest tweeter in the array. You will be fine.
kristofa,
I agree with david, you should be fine with that arrangement.  At first I thought you may have had something peculiar with your room but clearly that's not the case.  Most of are seated below the axis of the central tweeter once spikes/footers are placed.
David,
Have your SE's shipped yet? Still waiting on mine and wondered what the status of yours was. 
Hi Tom. I received mine two Fridays ago. I thought I had posted that.

I've been running them continuously since and will likely post something regarding early impressions by tomorrow evening.