Tekton Double Impacts

@ lancelock,
How are you using the MZ2 with the AHB2 considering the MZ2 has RCA out only and the AHB2 has XLR in only?

Thank you.

Thanks kdude66!  How quality are these adapters, and don't they degrade the signal?

@ evolvist,
This is helpful - Thanks!

@ kdude66,
Again, thank you!!

@tektondesign,
Bose probably figured you are designing way bigger (physically) speakers than they would like.

@porscheracer,
Why not the Linear Tube Audio MZ2-S which has received high praise by Teejay and others here?  Also, it is below your budget.

@ Charles1dad,
I am interested in the results of the MZ2-S and the Coincident Statement Line Stage comparison in your system. Could you please share your findings here as I am considering one of them down the line?

@ Charles1dad & mac48025,

I truly appreciate your feedback on the LTA MZ2-S and the CSL comparison. I have the CSL and the Melody P2688 (also based on the 101D tube) on my want list. I was hoping the MZ2-S would equal or better the CSL so that I can save some money. I guess if one has a small budget, the MZ2-S is no brainer, however, if one wants something higher, the CSL should be considered. The Lyngdorf TDAI-2170 has also piqued my interest and I have to find a way to audition one.

Thank you.

mac48025,
I have no doubt the CSL/Frankenstein combo is quite special.  Hopefully, you are able to find a preamp/amp combo you can live with on perpetual basis.

Charles1dad,
I don't know how I could get the CSL/P2688 to audition side by side.  I want to see what the others say about the Lyngdorf and go from there as it might save me some money.

The Yggy and the DS are both good sounding DAC’s; however, the topology is different for both. With different rooms, different systems and different EARS, people will assess the sound differently. We all hear differently, and even if both are compared in the same system, some will prefer one over the other.

Charles,
I don't disagree with you.  I know implementation is they key.  Personally, I have a preference for R2R DAC's.  One DAC I am dying to hear is the DENAFRIPS Terminator DAC. It is R2R architecture and looks like it's very well made. So far, I have read nothing but positive on DENAFRIPS DAC's.

+Charles1dad.

You demonstrate wisdom in your writing's that I enjoy reading from you. Sometimes we forget that what we hear is subjective at best, and regardless of how much a component costs, someone would always prefer something of a lesser value based on sound alone.  We all hear differently.  Tekton is making dreams come through for some of us who want high-end sound for far less.  BRAVO Tekton!!

Teejay,
What solid state amp and sources is Ezra using in his system?

@mac48025,
Why are you holding on to your DI's??  Some of us want more bang for our buck, and are waiting for people to offload their DI's when they upgrade/ climb up the Tekton ladder.

Charles:  I think people expect not only better sound but coupled with better/quality drivers at certain price points.  After all, that's what was mentioned earlier on.  I also understand that some don't care for looks either.  You can make coffin speakers with dead bodies in them.  As long as the dead body can sing to their liking, that is all that matters to them.  I am not saying the Tekton's are ugly but I would love to see some improvements there as well.

@mac48025,
I thought about your offer but decide to wait on your DI SE's instead when you upgrade to the soon to be released Double Impact SE Turbo MK2.

Mike,
While at it, could you please share the drivers used in the SE?

+1 Jetter,
You beat me to it. I was waiting for the SE version myself and thought the price as well as the parts used should align with my $$$, and not just the sound, considering it is priced twice as much as the standard SE.  The explanation doesn't make sense to me as well.  If I am a speaker designer and want to copy it, I would just buy a pair, take them apart to capture as much as I can and resell it or something. Perhaps the enclosure should be made such that no one can open it to peek at the parts used - now that would make more sense.

The explanation given by Tekton makes it seem like the drivers used in the SE's or his designs play a "major" role than his patent.  Why write a white paper on that patent but won't disclose drivers used in his speakers. Are the drivers more important than his patent that renders all speakers obsolete? Even Magico with expensive custom in-house drivers do disclose their drivers as well as some of the materials used in designing them.

@mac48025,
User "Premnath" mentioned his Berning 6b4g amp twice in postings yesterday.  He also mentioned that this amp is what Berning personally listens to, so it might be good.

Grannyring,
Thanks a lot for your feedback!!  I have followed you and Charles (charles1dad) for a very long time, and I value your opinions greatly.  You both call a spade a spade, so I price your feedback on audio gear very high.  While we can all argue that performance on a component can't solely be judged on the cost, any sensible person knows that quality parts and implementation plays a major part. I have interest in the Tekton SEs and still do.  I expected quality drivers but you saw the designers response.  It appears to him that all that matters is the sound, and that there was/is no need for people to ask for the drivers used because the sound alone answers it all. 

Your quote " Let’s just say Tekton needs additional talent and help moving forward if they want to achieve sustainable success" is spot on.  Tekton is doing something great for us audiophiles in that he is bringing affordable speakers with great sound to us, but he need to be open to criticism on improvements.  Also, how he responds to the critics is very important as his personality/ego could show in his responses.  As a designer/manufacturer/owner of a company/seller, how he treats customers, whether good or bad, will decide his fate in this business going forward.

@Teejay,
"There are at least three professional reviewers who have shared to me that they "are eating crow" because when they first read my review on the DI's they thought I was on the take or drinking laced Kool-Aid to say they were better then the Cello's, until they got to hear them with their own ears. All had reviewed or owned speakers above the 20K price range and admitted the DI's were at least as good or better then the much more expensive speakers".

Are these three reviewers reviewing the DI's for publication? Are they members on Audiogon?  Can they post here? It would be nice to hear from the horse's mouth, so they can share their direct experience along with the speakers they compared the DI's to.

Teajay,
You sound upset.  Is it because you want everyone to believe anything you say? I hope you are having a great day and listening to some good music.

Grannyring,
I am open-minded, and I would love for you to share the sound improvement after your mods.  If you don't want to share it here, I understand, I can send you a PM.  What I am gathering here from some folks is that they only want hear praises for the DIs, nothing else. 

aniwolfe,
Professional Reviewer so what? Do I have to believe anyone who claim to be Jesus just because he carries a bible and speak from it?

Hey Teajay,
Something I have noticed about you on this thread is that you seem to have issues with what some people are feeding their DIs with, especially those that say something negative about the DI sound. While I agree that you may be right in some situations, I think questioning what Grannyring is feeding his DIs is not right. This man has owned very nice/expensive gear and sold them for the Lyngdorf that he likes so much. With his experience and ears, wouldn’t he know the sound he is after, and know if the Lyngdorf is not playing well with he DIs?

Teajay,
I have not heard the DI's or any Tekton speakers, and I have NEVER commented about a direct experience with any Tekton speakers.  If you read my posts, you too will know that I mentioned I am interested in the SEs - I really do.  I live in Colorado but I wasn't able to make it to RMAF due to work and family issues (I had to care for a sick child while wife is at work). 

On the other hand, I think the Lyngdorf is very good and should be for the DI.

@grannyring,
Thanks for the detailed info on your DIY mods on DIs.  Time to look for someone locally who can do this for a fee.  I was/am interested in the SEs but this has me scratching my head.  Perhaps Tekton could offer these upgrades and call it DI Ultimate for folks like me who are not DIY savvy.

@greg22lz
I am not sure if you understand grannyring's point.  He is only pointing out that people should expect to hear different sound opinions from others based on the frequent changes to parts on the DI speakers.  While you seem to have a problem with Bill's scrutiny, which came about because he chose to mod his, we should be grateful and lucky to know this, so that we don't blame people's upstream components so much like it has happened on this thread, when someone complains about what they hear with the DI's. 

For me, I just want this speaker manufacturer to succeed in that he is bringing stellar and affordable speakers to the market. However, I hope he takes this in a positive way, and perhaps allow more time on newer designs, and to settle on parts/ sound before launching them.

@tektondesign
Thanks for taking time to clarify things on this thread - it really helps!!  I do not own your speakers yet.  I am considering the SEs, and I am working on adding a dedicated room in my basement first.

@greg22lz,
But Bill was NOT putting down the DIs other than making people aware to accept other opinions regarding sound since there are variants of these speakers with different parts. Is that a bad thing for him to say? Most of us or posters on this thread are here because of a GOOD thing: great sounding speakers for less $$$. Does that mean some can’t pass on meaningful/useful information to others here or make constructive criticism about the speakers?

@greg22lz,
It’s all good.

@mac48025,
I agree. And please share your experience with the SE’s when you receive them.

"The cool thing that often gets overlooked on threads like this is we’re all passionate about audio - every one of us. We all have so much more in common than differences."

That is so TRUE, Eric.

Also, the $3000-3500 on the SE’s probably have dealer markup built-in since they are sold through dealerships.