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Synergistic Red Fuse ...
I installed a SR RED Quantum fuse in my ARC REF-3 preamp a few days ago, replacing an older high end fuse. Uhh ... for a hundred bucks, this little baby is well worth the cost. There was an immediate improvement upon installation, but now that its broken in (yes, no kidding), its quite remarkable. A tightening of the focus, a more solid image, and most important of all for my tastes, a deeper appreciation for the organic sound of the instruments. Damn! ... cellos sound great! Much improved attack on pianos. More humanistic on vocals. Bowed bass goes down forever. Next move? .... I'm doing the entire system with these fuses. One at a time though just to gauge the improvement in each piece of equipment. The REF-75se comes next. I'll report the results as the progression takes place. Stay tuned ...
Any comments from anyone else who has tried these fuses?
Any comments from anyone else who has tried these fuses?
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mapman, I've often wondered that myself tommylion. mapman has 14,286 posts, 238 posts on this thread alone. Now I know that folks who HATE Howard Stern listen to his show and blow a gasket everyday, just as some who HATE The View do the same. I'm often baffled why someone is attracted to view, listen, even seek out something that irritates them so much. Why DO people seek out things that they know will bother them? Masochism? That is a mystery to me. Life is too short. |
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Charles, I don’t know why many builders don’t use film caps in the power supply? Why they don’t use better internal wiring? Why they use such long signal paths? Why they don’t use breakers? Why many builders think one part sounds the same as another as long as both are in spec and think boutique capacitors/resistors and the like are snake oil? Why do we still use conventional binding posts instead of clamps that clamp the output wires to the speaker cable? Many more audio questions I wonder about in terms of tube gear design.If my memory serves me right and we had a LONG debate, Atmasphere states 95% of his amp and preamp designs are based on specs. Any builder voices their design is incompetent. So I guess cap, wire ... with the same spec will work so probably reason inferior parts are used? @oregonpapa To everyone posting here:I love coffee. I buy most of the coffee from Trader Joe's and settled on French Roast and Italian. I use a burr grinder and French press ... I guess next step is roasting my own coffee ... I'll let you know how it goes :-):-) BTW, the circuit breakers Paul Weitzel uses are all mil-spec. I still have several in my basement. Paul said never seen one failed. |
jetter tommy, no mater what side of the fence you are on, I think the reason non fusers keep coming back to this thread is the curiosity of reading about people hearing differences that knowledge experts have explained are not possible. Knowledge Expert definition - someone with a big forehead who used to be a drip under pressure. 😃 |
Moving on to another fascinating area of controversy; tube rolling. My Audio Note Kit 1 DAC uses a single 12AU7 type tube in the analog output stage. I had been using a NOS (80’s vintage, I think) Tesla ECC802S, which I thought was a pretty good tube. Supposedly, they were made with the original Telefunken tooling. I swapped it out for a low noise, low microphonics tested, 50’s-60’s vintage, Telefunken I acquired from Andy Bouwman at Vintage Tube Services years ago. I was not really prepared for how much better it was. I think the black fuses, along with other recent changes and tweaks to my system, have increased the resolution such that the differences are easily discernible. If you are interested in exploring the difference really good NOS tubes can make, I highly recommend Andy: http://vintagetubeservices.com |
Yes, interesting also how similar in many respects tubes are to fuses, inasmuch as they carry the audio signal, are susceptible to vibration and magnetic fields and RFI/EMI, function better with better conductor materials I.e., internal structures and tube pins, better tube holders (sockets). In fact about the only thing tubes are missing is the inexplicable angst that fuses create in the minds of audiophiles. |
+1 on Andy of Vintage Tube Services. He's a wealth of tube and vintage gear knowledge and a great guy to deal with. My only tube source. While I just started using tubes last year I've done a decent amount of tube rolling and enjoy the different sound qualiies different tubes bring to the table, especially NOS tubes. A matched quad of 60's NOS RCA 6L6GC's black plates have transformed my amp.....purely magical. Good point geoffkait. I wonder what people will think if I get small tube dampers to to fit over my fuses? It actually might not be a bad idea! |
jetter Knowledge Expert definition - For my way of looking at things they are Al and Ralph - Although I probably should not inject my interpretation of their discussions, which is what I have done. So Al and Ralph, sorry if I have misinterpreted your thoughts. I hate to judge before all the facts are in but (and I’m only going by what others have said on this dodgy subject, not to mention own extensive experience and the testimony of others) can I be so bold as to suggest it’s possible you’re following the wrong sheep? |
Jetter 1-20-2017 No problem, Jetter. To be sure my thoughts about fuses are clear, here is a summary of the major points I have made in this and other fuse-related threads: 1)I don't doubt that fuses can make a difference in many applications, even though ... 2)... Measured data that has been presented in support of the existence of those differences is not supportive of their existence, for reasons I have explained. 3)I have expressed bafflement at how any particular fuse, such as the SR Black, can provide the benefits it has been reported to provide with the high degree of consistency that has been reported, among components that are completely different in design, that perform completely different functions, that are used in very different systems, that are powered by AC having very different voltage and noise characteristics, and in DC as well as AC applications. 4)I have contended that it is impossible for a fuse to have inherent directional characteristics. See my post dated 12-31-2016. And I have said that even if a fuse did have inherent directional characteristics, the vastly longer associated wiring would as well, and the directional effects of that wiring would swamp those of the fuse. 5)I have pointed out in this and other threads that in audio it is often extremely easy to attribute a perceived sonic effect to the wrong variable. And that the methodology with which an evaluation is performed needs to be especially thorough in the case of tweaks that are technically unexplainable and/or seemingly implausible, to rule out the possibility that unrecognized extraneous variables are responsible. Also, regarding the question of why "non-believers" keep coming back to this thread, as would be the case in most threads discussion of that question is, IMO, neither constructive nor germane to the topic of the thread. Regards, -- Al |
I asked this question a little while back and I don’t know if anyone responded. Hard to keep track with so much traffic. Anyway, let me ask again: I got the new fuses but when I went in to replace the fuses, I see the stock ones are in the standard fuse holders but also have (thin) wires soldered at both ends of each fuse. Anyone else seen this set up in their gear? A bit reluctant to break the solder joints to replace the fuses since the amp is still under warranty. |
Thank you mapman. I’m going to leave it alone for now and use the fuses if/when I really need to. By the way, I mentioned this fuse "magic" to my brother a couple of weeks ago and suggested he try them in his older Magnepan 1.5QR speakers by replacing the stock (tweeter) fuses. I don’t consider him an audiophile type of person but he appreciates good sound. Besides, he hardly ever takes my advice seriously on anything. Well, I guess he took my advice this time. He called me yesterday literally 5 minutes after he had installed the new fuses in the Magnepans and had only played one song. He was literally freaking out about how much better they sounded. He said they now sound just like they sounded when had bought them together over 25 years ago. He simply could not believe replacing the fuses could make such a dramatic difference. And these were just the red ones not even the blacks. Go figure. |
kalili in the case of magnepans fuses are directly in the signal path of the speakers I believe a case where they are more likely to make a difference. I don’t think anyone has challenged the greater likelihood of their potential effect on sound in that particular case. As Al cited fuses are used in different places in different ways in different devices so mileage likely to vary overall. It could also be due to a better/fresh connection with the new fuse in compared to old. The way to know would be to replace each a few times and see if the better sound occurs consistently with one fuse or another. |
I put a SR Red fuse into my preamp yesterday and it blew immediately. I put the Radio Shack fuse back in the preamp and the preamp powers up fine. That was a $50 "butt dart". The notion of directionality of fuses, as so much of his thread revolves around, is as silly as the notion that pricey fuses make an audible difference. However, I thought the same thing about PC's and recently got both a Shunyata Venom 3 PC and Silnote Poseidon PC and the improvement in sound in my system is significant. Caveat emptor, my friends. |
mapman, that was my takeaway too, e.g., fuse directly in the signal path, etc., and sort of proves my "seat of the pants" theory. The more (directly) the fuse is placed in the signal path, the more the improvement in the SQ. Its a theory (for me) because I only have one data point first hand to prove it but might explain why we have a dividend camp. |
Let me get this straight. Mapman, the Principal Troll and naysayer supreme on fuse threads, who professes he cannot hear the difference between a stock fuse and a high end fuse and who also cannot hear the difference in directionality of fuses, is being complemented on his theory why aftermarket fuses make a difference in SQ and is suddenly admired as some sort of fuse savant? Shirley, you jest. 😛 |
I put a SR Red fuse into my preamp yesterday and it blew immediately. I put the Radio Shack fuse back in the preamp and the preamp powers up fine. That was a $50 "butt dart".It's all voodoo b/s. Send the fuse back and demand a $50 refund, and do not accept another bs higher rated fuse. This SR Company has a lot to answer for with this s**t they're peddling, and the clowns that push (shill) it here relentlessly to he gullible. Cheers George |
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Almarg 1/20/17 It now appears that Wolf_Garcia, Mapman and Almarg have emerged as the leading spokesmen for the flat earth society. I have taken it upon myself to respond to to the 5 points raised by almarg. Points 1 & 2. " I don't doubt that fuses can make a difference in many applications even though measured data that has been presented to support the existence of those differences is not supportive of their existence" It is very difficult to respond rationally to to this type of convoluted nonsense. The only way to determine whether a fuse make a difference is to listen to it. No "measured data" can make this determination. This is why final evaluation of high quality audio products has to pass a listening test before approved for sale. The truth is that all fuses make a difference. The only question is whether the resolution of the playback system is is good enough to allow the difference to be heard. Not all playback systems have the benefits of tuned acoustics, absence from vibrations, optimized loudspeaker placement, good grounding etc Point 3. " I have expressed bafflement at how any particular fuse, such as the synergistic black, can provide the benefits it has reported to provide with the high degree of consistency that has been reported, among components that are completely different in design, that perform completely different functions, that are used in very different systems, that are powered by AC having very different voltage and noise characteristics, and in DC as well as AC applications" Almarg's bafflement is based on a false premise. It is not the use that is doing all the things he is baffled by. It is THE POWER SUPPLY that is reponsible for the improvements. The fuse allow the power supply to perform more effectively and this, not the fuse, is responsible for the improved performance. Point 4. " I have contended that it is impossible for a fuse to have inherent directional characteristics. And I have said that even if a fuse did have inherent directional characteristics, the vastly longer associated wiring would, as well and the directional effects of that wiring would swamp those of the fuse." As Bill Clinton has pointed out " It depends on what "directional is." I replaced 10 fuses in my system and after replacing the final fuse noted a fall-off in performance. I reversed the physical direction of the fuse and and optimum performance was restored. I DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THE FUSE ITSELF IS INHERENTLY DIRECTIONAL. It is my belief that when a genuine audiophile say a fuse is "directional" this is what they are referring to. They are not saying that the fuse is inherently directional. Point 5: " I have pointed out in this and other threads that in audio it is often easy to attribute a perceived sonic effect to the wrong variable. And that the methodology with which an evaluation is performed needs to be especially thorough in the case of tweaks that are unexplainable and/or seemingly implausible, to rule out the possibility that unrecognized variables are responsible. This of course is a " Hail Mary " pass by a desperate Quarter Back in the closing stages of a losing battle. Does any one on this forum really believe that Oregonpapa (The OP of this thread ) is delusional. Can all the many positive reviews of the Synergistic Research fuses on this thread, and in other forums, explained away by saying they are being misled by "perceived effects of the wrong variable? I have said it before and I will say it again. Please review the synergistic black fuse and post your review on this thread. And if you do a review you should equip your system with a full complement of fuses. Don't do what Mapman did. He put in a single fuse. This is like like replacing one tyre on a car and reporting that you observed no change. One tyre is only part of the system of tyres. |
Nyame "As Bill Clinton has pointed out " It depends on what "directional is." I replaced 10 fuses in my system and after replacing the final fuse noted a fall-off in performance. I reversed the physical direction of the fuse and and optimum performance was restored. I DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THE FUSE ITSELF IS INHERENTLY DIRECTIONAL. It is my belief that when a genuine audiophile say a fuse is "directional" this is what they are referring to. They are not saying that the fuse is inherently directional." Uh, come again. What are you attributing the restoration of the sound to if not the inherent directionality of the fuse itself? |
I reported on a thorough test I did of SR fuses a while back, in which I concluded that they did nothing to enhance the sound of my well sorted system, and in fact a couple of them blew as they don't seem to be rated properly. My conclusion was simply that they are a fraudulent and dangerous product to be utterly avoided. The fact that no reasonable explanation from the manufacturers of these things as to why they have any effect on the tonality of audio gear has never been offered is not unexpected, but has been surprisingly ignored by people claiming benefits from the use of these things. |
wolf_garcia I reported on a thorough test I did of SR fuses a while back, in which I concluded that they did nothing to enhance the sound of my well sorted system, and in fact a couple of them blew as they don’t seem to be rated properly. My conclusion was simply that they are a fraudulent and dangerous product to be utterly avoided. The fact that no reasonable explanation from the manufacturers of these things as to why they have any effect on the tonality of audio gear has never been offered is not unexpected, but has been surprisingly ignored by people claiming benefits from the use of these things. speaking for myself, I am not ignoring your results with the SR fuses. But I am dismissing them as an OUTLIER when compared to the general population that has reported positive test results. Outliers can be thrown out. |
whitestixThey can't even get the amperage rating right. Others have blown also. Like I said before if they were the + or - rail fuses say goodby to your amp and or speakers. Get your money back asap, do not accept a higher rated fuse nyameYou can't have it both ways. Where and who stated this? and post a link to it please. nyameThe what are you trying to say, again you can't have it both ways. Cheers George |
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geoffkait 1/23/17 " Uh, come again. What are you attributing the restoration of the sound to if not the inherent directionality of the fuse itself? " I was merely responding to Almarg who stated " I have contended that it is impossible for a fuse to have inherent directional characteristics. " I wanted to state the only experience I had on this topic. I had originally replaced (7) standard fuses [ (4) in my power amp, (2) in my CD player and (1) in my preamp ] with Synergistic red fuses. I later replaced the single fuse in the preamp with a Synergistic black. There was a significant improvement in sound quality so I decided to upgrade the Cd player with blacks. However when I replaced the fuses in my CD player ( with SR black fuses ) the system sounded like it was out of phase. I took out both fuses and turned them around 180 degrees. This solved the problem and the system made another leap forward. I did not form an opinion as to why the change in orientation was so dramatic. To this day I have not come to any firm conclusions. Was it a mechanical connection problem ? I really do not know. I refuse to say that the fuses are directional. I also refuse to say they are not directional. I don't really care either way. This is what I meant when I said in my post " I DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THE FUSE ITSELF IS INHERENTLY DIRECTIONAL" |
Nyame, not sure why you are not on board the fuse directionality train since almost everyone else reports SR fuses are in fact directional. Even SR states their fuses are directional. I find it odd especially in light of your having SO MANY SR fuses that you have not followed suit. Hop aboard the fuse directionality train. All aboard! Toot toot! |
Geeoffkait I need more information before boarding the train: I do not know the manufacturing process used in fuse manufacture. I do not understand the properties of graphene as it relates to SR fuses. I do not know the full effects of Quantum tunneling. I have no information on the fuse holders. I do not know if the labels on the fuses are oriented in the same direction. |
nyame Geoffkait, I need more information before boarding the train: I do not know the manufacturing process used in fuse manufacture. I do not understand the properties of graphene as it relates to SR fuses. I do not know the full effects of Quantum tunneling. I have no information on the fuse holders. I do not know if the labels on the fuses are oriented in the same direction. All of of those things are irrelevant. Start with the assumption all fuses are directional. When you have many fuses in your system the only way to determine directionality is check each fuse, one at a time, for sound in both directions and keep the fuse in the direction that sounds best. Then move to the next fuse and repeat. Check all fuses one at a time. Th sound should get progressively better. When you have finished checking all fuses for directionality you can repeat the whole process in case you made a mistake or weren’t sure about one or more fuse. The second time around you should experience an easier time deciding which direction is best for each fuse since the system will be more resolving. |
To all of the naysayers: In your opinion, am I supposed to disbelieve my lying ears????? With all due respect, especially for Wolf, here' s a recommended tweak that you may want to try: http://www.pharmapacks.com/products.php?product=Murine-Ear-Wax-Removal-System-1-Each |
Not directed towards anyone, just a general comment. I'm still old school and believe that when someone has the need to repeatedly (emphasized) change interconnects, speaker cables, power cables, fuses, power outlets, power supplies, etc. its not refinement they need, but a major change in the overall sound of their system. A change that can only be achieved by changing components. At a certain point saying how much you love your sound and then doing anything to change it under the guise of refinement seems disingenuous and bound to fail. IMHO |
In response to request by georgelofi for SR statement on fuse directionality. From somewhere in cyberspace, Valerio, In my experience nearly all fuses are directional including SR Quantum Fuses. I recommend you try them in one component at at time and experiment with directionality. You should immediately notice a preference for one direction or the other. If a component has more than one fuse use a DVM (Digital Volt Meter) to determine direction of current in the circuit. Once you know the direction of current in each fuse holder place all fuses in like direction paying attention to have the letters on the SR Quantum Fuses all in the same direction either reading in the direction of signal flow, or against. Next switch direction and the correct match to your component should be readily apparent. There are just too many variables for me to make a blanket recommendation for all components when such a simple and definitive test is available. As to having to take a reviewers word for it (or not,) regarding which fuse to try / buy you have the option to audition SR Quantum Fuses for 30 days in your system with a full refund of the cost of the fuse should you elect to go a different way. Our 30-day no risk audition policy takes the guess work out of trying SR Quantum Fuses and is offered because I am certain we make the best sounding fuses in the world. Yours in music, Ted Denney III Lead Designer, Synergistic Research Inc. |
Nyame 1-23-2017I agree, aside from the first sentence. My statement to which you were responding did not say or imply anything to the contrary. The only question is whether the resolution of the playback system is is good enough to allow the difference to be heard. Not all playback systems have the benefits of tuned acoustics, absence from vibrations, optimized loudspeaker placement, good grounding etcThe sound quality and musical resolution of a component or system does not **necessarily** go hand in hand with the sensitivity of a component design to fuse differences, or its sensitivity to any other differences in hardware or tweaks for that matter. Conflating musical resolution and the sensitivity of a design to hardware differences is a common audiophile misconception, IMO, as I have said in a number of past threads. Although there will often tend to be at least a loose degree of correlation between the two, of course. To cite just one example illustrating that point, among countless others that could be cited, a speaker having low impedance and highly capacitive impedance phase angles, and/or an impedance that varies widely as a function of frequency, will tend to be more revealing of amplifier and speaker cable differences than one that is easy to drive and has a relatively flat impedance curve. Even though that says nothing about which speaker will provide better sound quality or superior resolution of musical detail. It is THE POWER SUPPLY that is reponsible for the improvements. The fuse allow the power supply to perform more effectively and this, not the fuse, is responsible for the improved performance.This is a meaningless distinction, IMO. I DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THE FUSE ITSELF IS INHERENTLY DIRECTIONAL.Thank you for the clarifications you provided on this in response to comments by the others. FWIW, I did not say that **you** concluded that a fuse is inherently directional. Does any one on this forum really believe that Oregonpapa (The OP of this thread ) is delusional. Can all the many positive reviews of the Synergistic Research fuses on this thread, and in other forums, explained away by saying they are being misled by "perceived effects of the wrong variable?I have considerable respect for Frank’s system, sonic perceptiveness, and sincerity. My statement certainly did not imply that extraneous variables are responsible for all or even most of the reported differences. However I would feel safe in assuming that they were a factor in **some** of the reports. Especially when it comes to claims of inherent directionality. In any event, as things stand now it seems clear that the thread has encompassed a plethora of reported experiences, opinions, and technical considerations covering all sides of the issue. Those reading the thread can and will form their own conclusions as to whom and what to believe, and as to how and if to proceed with any fuse upgrades that may be considered. Regards, -- Al P.S: My thanks are extended to those who expressed favorable reactions to the summary in my previous post, "believers" and "non-believers" alike. |
Al from my perspective, your summary is the one presented here that best accounts for most all actual experiences related here with the fuses. That’s an indicator of a sound argument. Not to mention your large and sterling track record of providing valuable unbiased posts based on sound technical facts and reason here over many years. Arguments based on defects with other peoples hearing or systems are totally unsubstantiated since the system in question have never been heard in support of the argument. Its not even an opinion rather a conclusion based on no actual fact or information other than a belief or assertion that the fuses must always make a difference which of course can never be proven, only that they can or may in certain cases. Attempts to discredit or even chase away those with different or unpopular findings in my mind in fact discredits the accuser, not the intended victim. Its a reaction based purely on emotion or some other agenda and holds no water whatsoever. Pure bully tactics. My issues or reservations are with Synergistic Research and their products discussed here specifically. I have not observed the value as a pricey (as fuses go) upgrade over the fuse provided in my Audio Research pre-amp in my particular case. That’s it. Also I would tend to not buy products from Synergistic Research specifically based on my experience to date and assessment of information provided by SR on their products to date. That’s my judgement call based on my experience. Others obviously love their stuff. |
jetter sez: "At a certain point saying how much you love your sound and then doing anything to change it under the guise of refinement seems disingenuous and bound to fail." It seems to me, Jetter, that people come to this hobby in two flavors. There are equipment freaks and then there are music lovers. As for me, any improvement I make to the system that gets me closer to the music, I'm all in. While I do "love" the sound currently offered up by the system, if the installation of a new tweak, Herbie's tube dampeners for example (highly recommended), allows for more realism, especially in the area of correct tonal balance, I'm on it. I agree with you to a point Jetter ... most seasoned audiophiles have met the type who spend an ungodly amount on their equipment and have a paltry music collection consisting of mostly "audiophile" type of recordings. These are the equipment freaks who are just chasing their tails. On the other hand, there are those who have thousands of recordings in their collections who listen through modified Dyna 70's and Dyna Pas-3's and enjoy every second of it. I wouldn't fault this guy for upgrading to a nice ARC Classic 60 and an ARC SP-14. Or for that matter, fault him/her for just sticking SR Black fuses in his Dyna equipment. Same thing applies all the way up the line. When ever I'm invited to hear a system in a home for the first time, I always check the music collection out first. It says all one needs to know. Its the music first ... always. :-) Frank |
Hi Frank, Thank you for that very clear explanation. I have often read about your new music discoveries and your love of music does come through your posts. On your and Charles' suggestion I have gone to utube and watched/listened to a number of the tunes presented in this thread. I do hope that there are not too many people who read these threads who are getting caught up in an endless upgrade cycle because they think it is the only way to audio nirvana. A number of posters (not necessarily on this thread) have not so subtly insinuated that if you haven't owned countless pieces of costly equipment you cannot have the knowledge to know if you have a good system. Lets face it, good equipment is astronomically priced compared to when we were younger. The greatest tweak of all is to be able to be satisfied with what you have and as you said, enjoy the music. George |
Oregonpapa, you do seem delusional as I'm absolutely certain that fuses, when working properly, can't and don't provide any sonic improvement, and in the case of SRs poorly designed fuses they can and have provided the act of surprisingly melting, which unfortunately does have audible effects. The manufacturers of these things know this, and also know they can market these insanely profitable faux upgrades by simply claiming they work, regardless of any actual technical support for these claims. There are plenty of fans of useless audio tweaks who's personal insecurity requires validation from others of their "special listening skills," and I get that. I'm on the front lines of live music as a concert mixer and producer and among that crowd of working professionals there simply isn't room for fantasy among the people who actually make music…well, most of them anyway...but there is room for ear wax removal kits and I've been using that stuff for decades. Highly recommended. |
Wolf Man wrote, "...but there is room for ear wax removal kits and I’ve been using that stuff for decades. Highly recommended." You’ve been using it for decades? I’ll bet you have. It’s all starting to make sense now as to your difficulty hearing. I imagine you remove ear wax the size of golf balls, no? One can’t help wondering if all of the naysayers, the fuse denyers, are of a certain age when their hearing is pretty much shot, you know, nothing above 8 or 10 KHz. 😀 |
Hello George (jetter), I agree with you regarding the fun and discovery of sharing recordings and introducing unfamiliar artists. Regarding audio systems and upgrading there seem to be 2 general approaches of equal merit. 1 Buy /replace components to improve one’s current sound quality. 2 Keep the current components and attempt to maximize their capabilities. I have gone both routes over the years and had sucessful outcomes. I’ve decided that my current system is the best I’ve owned and after 7 years of joy this is very likely my final system. For this reason I want to extract all or nearly all it has to give sonically. Vibration management, better tubes, capacitors, fuses, wall AC outlets have all been exceptionally gratifying tweaks. IMO it has elevated the "very good " to the tier of superb, resulting in even a greater and deeper level of listening pleasure. George, these are needless to say personal choices we make. I can only attest to my experiences, in my case the tweaking and selected upgrading of parts and accessories has been utterly rewarding. As we all can appreciate, to each their own. I spend many hours listening to music and enjoy every moment of doing so. Charles |
