Real musicians don't need "awards."

Agree @tablejockey 

The RHOF is own thing, but the title to this thread strongly implies that people who have been inducted are not real musicians.  Not true!  Do you think all of them also lack integrity?

I don’t have an opinion, but I am curious how the organization is run. Maybe you could explain who has control and how selections are made. For example I’m a Motorsports racing fan and I’ve become disillusioned with NASCAR as in my opinion its focus is marketing , growth and revenue and has bastardized the sport. Is that what you see with the RHOF ?  Regards , Mike B 

'Do you think all of them also lack integrity?"

Sigh...

Guess I had that coming. 

The people who Carol played bass for were 'entertainers'. Entertainment is not a negative thing. 

This is reminding me to again watch "The Wrecking Crew" documentary. Kaye had some interesting commentary.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is just as valid as the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

(Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.)

@buellrider97  NASCAR lost me when they forced restrictor plates in an effort to make everyone equal. 

The hall of fame is a cool place to visit but all HOFs have their own selection criteria and process which has limitations IMO.  Interesting that a couple of musicians that have been inducted refused to participate.  Mark Knofler of Dire Straits is another.  Some share their reasons why but he didn’t.  Reminds me of the Groucho Marx quote about not wanting to join a club that would have me as a member.  

I do know that she thinks of herself more as a Jazz musician. So did her sometimes drumming partner in the L.A. studios, Earl Palmer.

Marketing tool to promote sales. Just like most speciality magazines and on-line reviewers.  Shiny and new turns old therefore reinvigorate sales through award shows and hall of fames. 

She is correct.  It started out fine, and has become absolute crap.  

I have been to the RnR HOF and it is ... something that should cost 5 dollars to enter instead of the approx. 30 USD per ticket. I did see some older doo wop and bluesman musicos show up for a visit and they all had tuxes and gowns on. they looked happy that anybody remembered them. good eneough fer me yep yep

The fact that  neither Jethro Tull nor Ian Anderson himself are not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame demonstrates the minimal significance of being inducted into it. He’s amongst the most talented musicians in any genre & both a brilliant, prolific writer ( new album just came out) & great performer!

"Need" seems unnecessarily strong, but certainly fame is something that many musicians desire.  Obviously, Carol is not among them.  I have total respect for her and her position. 

Personally, I'd be curious to see the spectacle.  Maybe ask them to let me sneak in unannounced and disguised, sit at some anonymous table of industry folk 30 rows deep, and dutifully applaud when they announced that I wasn't present...

Being in the South, punting NASCAR is not a great idea, esp. in a bar environ.....

'Stock cars'.....left turns only.....*yawn*  Just a daft draft duel for too long to hold my attention, and I suspect some go for just the shunts....
Give me a back road rally....some Isle of Man road race raucous rollin'....some Euro hill climbin'....
Just watching the late great Ken Block trashing tires in the vids is more fun than most motomuck from the NAS...

...but I like 'Q-ship' cars...streetable stuff that surprises that dolt in the Beemer that thinks he's stinkless....watching your tailpipe pop a flame on the upshift.

(Grew up in SoCal during the muscle car craze....'insane in the membrane'...)

Most musicians may not require awards, but most of them do require rewards, and that is often where the trouble starts.

Stop caring about the RHOF when James Taylor was inducted. Perhaps before that I cant really remember.

There is one James Taylor album I have always liked and often listen to as a "test" album - "October Road." It is mostly original material and showcases Taylor's voice and writing skills very handsomely, and the studio production is very good. When my sound system finally matured it was enjoyable to hear every little inflection and detail in the performance. Whenever there has been some change or tweak in my system "October Road" is one of a few albums routinely brought to bear to see what is what..