Peter Lederman in Second Bout With COVID-19


I saw on Facebook late last night that Mike Fremer told one of his Audio Friends that he heard from Peter Lederman of Soundsmith that he is suffering his second round with COVID.  Peter said he has blood clots on his lungs. That is all the post said.  Here is hoping that Peter pulls through with a full recovery. 
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Good for Peter - I hope he makes a complete recovery; this can be a very bad, long-lasting disease as well as a quick, mild one. Indeed, many hospitals are terrible (though nurses and technicians usually are not), but I've always had good luck with teaching hospitals, like University of California in San Francisco. Had colon cancer surgery there a few years ago, couldn't have gone smoother, and cost me absolutely nothing. 
All the best to Peter and his loved ones.
We are so glad to hear you are safely back home.

JD
Get well Peter!
Thoughts & prayers for you.
I’m a huge Soundsmith fan & customer.

One of lifes better people and one to be treasured by anyone with an interest in music replay. Here's hoping Peter makes a full recovery no matter how long it takes. Our thoughts are with you Peter 
This all explains the backlog on my cartridge that is in for a retipping. I just sent him my prayers for a full recovery. I appreciate learning about this here. An audiophile national living treasure. 
Peter is such a good soul.  Bless him and I hope that he does exceptionally well in the long haul.
Good news. Of concern too is the longevity of the business. I hope it survives.
@antinn 

Fantastic news. Let’s hope for a full recovery, and the shop gets back normal sooner than later. It’s been a pretty tough year for Peter and Soundsmith.
One other comment, this whole mess is a great example of how mythology can quickly form. The conspiracy theories proliferate like wildfire without even any serious evidence of wrong doing. I personally do not think this pandemic was handled well. It was another chicken little story. Millions of people lost their jobs and businesses in the process. The economic damage will take years if not decades to overcome and for people will never be the same again. Nobody interviewed the elderly and asked what they want. Every last one of my cognitively intact elderly nursing home patients said things like "I'm ready to go" or "don't worry about me."  We could have protected the elderly and infirmed without near as much economic damage. 
In situations like this it is very hard for people to be deliberate. I do not think that is Peter's style. I also would bet he fully knows about the grape vine going on about this and I suspect he will eventually announce his situation.
As for the etiology of this virus I fully agree with Lewm who is more knowledgeable about this than I am. In nature this virus is likely to mutate one protein at a time and what ever it does is up for grabs. It may well mutate itself out of existence just as well as becoming more virulent. One thing is for certain, once a virus loses it's hosts it is done. It can not replicate without the genetic machinery of it's host. There is always a way to eradicate a virus, you either immunize or knock off the hosts. Smallpox is an example.     
yes indeed, God please leave Peter, his dog, his company and his poetry with us all a while longer...

@glupson you are a good dude
In all fairness, it is none of our business to go snooping about details of his health condition. In fact, with all the good intentions, even posting these details so far might have been a step too far.


I agree. 
What’s the point to post on public forum about someone’s disease, it’s too personal. 
A true Hail Fellow, Well Met, gentleman. Smart too. 
His charity helps stolen children is a great effort. 
He did Zoom interviews for several clubs over the past
year. I am so glad to have watched it.


God-leave Peter with us for a while longer please!
"Do you think maybe Peter deliberately let it be known that he expects to be on the way to recovery..."

I have no guess about that. It is hard, if not impossible, to predict how a person would react to stressful situation.

I do remember him joining one of the threads, and starting one with poetry. In neither of those did he mention his health so this time it is different.

I am only trying to point out that we do not know how Mr. Ledermann would react to our curiosity about his health status. Not everyone responds to that in the same way so I would suggest erring on the side of polite distance.
He did make it publically known last year about issues re Covid...indeed, he contributed to his own thread, throwing in some poetry for good measure. I don't think this is too different.
Do you think maybe Peter deliberately let it be known that he expects to be on the way to recovery, so as to lessen the anxiety of his many customers and future potential customers?  And also to explain why his business output may be backed up a bit at present?  Anyway, he has nothing but well-wishers here, myself included.
"...my only point is that we know there is a problem but we really do not know the state of affairs."

In all fairness, it is none of our business to go snooping about details of his health condition. In fact, with all the good intentions, even posting these details so far might have been a step too far.
@bkeske, my only point is that we know there is a problem but we really do not know the state of affairs. All we can do is hope he gets better and that someone notifies the press when he does so we can all stop worrying. Being in a hospital is not a good sign. Getting discharged is a very good sign.
Theaudiotweak, Thank you for your updates.
Let's hope the news will be encouraging. 
bkeske, Thank you.

"Seriously, are ‘we’ really going to turn a thread about concern for Peter Ledermann, the man and respected creator of incredible audio equipment, into a mud slinging contest?
There must be better forums for that type of tripe."
I did not know him at all, but reading all testimonies here i want to join my prayer and best wishes to him and his family....
I wish him all the best and I can't say enough good things about him and his company. They really go the extra mile to keep their customers satisfied and their follow-up after a sale, even if it's years later, is exemplary and second to none! My best wishes Peter for a complete recovery! Mike
@lewm 
Thanks for the explanation - as you are aware there is much speculation and misfinformation. I at least try to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
We are fortunate here in New Zealand we have not had a significant outbreak yet - more a fluke than good management though - our borders are porous and have process gaps.
@ millercarbon you usually win the wildest rambling contest but today it's visible from the moon. Unless he is in a hospital in [poor little country X] he is there to get better
Just to be clear, Tony Fauci is not synonymous with NIH and Tony Fauci does not personally dispense extramural research grants. In fact, he has nothing to do with it. Fauci is Director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease. He runs that institute only, which is one of at least 10 different institutes that constitute NIH, albeit NIAID has one of the biggest but not the biggest budget of any of the institutes. He also runs a large and very productive lab (I am sure he has co-authored more than 1000 papers in peer-reviewed journals), and he is ultimately in charge of all the patients admitted to the NIH Clinical Center under the NIAID aegis. Plus, he has become a TV personality, thanks to DJT and the pandemic. I don’t know his work schedule these days, but a decade ago it was common knowledge that he typically put in 12-14 hours in his office, not to mention time spent reading at home. I think that’s enough work and responsibility for any man. NIAID specifically, and each of the other NIH institutes, have large groups of reviewers, who give out extramural grant money. (The NIAID grant review group mainly funds research related to its mission, to combat pathogens like HIV, tuberculosis, malaria-related applications.) I served on the NIAID extramural grant review committees more than once during Fauci’s term as Director; he is nowhere in sight during that process. That myth about "gain of function" is BS meant to discredit Fauci that has been circulating since before the election; it makes no sense to anyone who knows anything. Truthfully, that whole business makes me sick.

My thoughts are the virus is NOT man-made. If it were man-made, it could only have been man-made in the sense that someone took pieces of one or more other Coronavirus genomes and spliced them together. This could be done in a lab, but guess what... No one could concoct such a virus and know in advance what it was going to do. We are just not that good. Hollywood exaggerates. There is not even any lab method to predict the particular pathogenicity of this particular virus, in advance of releasing it into the human population. Further, the Coronaviruses have the capacity to re-combine in nature, which is to say when or if two coronaviruses infect the same cells in an animal, the genomes of the two separate viruses can exchange pieces with each other. These exchanges of genetic information occur at certain known points in the genome; it’s tightly controlled. The resulting chimeric viruses could/can easily be detected by genome sequencing and comparing results to the parent viruses. There are some papers that show a plausible origin of SARS-CoV2 in relation to certain native bat viruses.  I don't know if any particular scenario is yet proven. In general, for any virus, the vast majority of deliberate mutations introduced into the genome by scientists in a lab result in a crippled or attenuated virus that has actually lost some of its virulence properties. It’s much easier to do that than it is to create a Franken-virus that will eat your face. There is absolutely nothing about this virus that makes me think it came out of a lab. (However, it could have come out of a lab by accident if there were a lab that was collecting Coronavirus isolates from bats or other animal hosts for a legitimate scientific purpose, but there is no way it was made in a lab.)
As to your question about mutation. Coronaviruses actually have a lower mutation rate than most viruses, owing to the fact that the virus genome codes for a "proof-reading" protein that eliminates most mutations before transcription is completed. IF there were a man-made "synthetic" Coronavirus, it would still have to obey all the rules by which Coronaviruses operate and proliferate, and I would expect it to mutate at a rate no different from any other Coronavirus. As far as COVID is concerned, the virus is constrained from mutating in such a way as to negatively affect its binding affinity for its cell receptor, ACE2. ACE2 is the receptor in both humans and susceptible animal species. This is good for us, as our vaccines are targeted to produce antibodies to the part of the virus that binds ACE2; the virus will have a hard time escaping antibodies induced by the present vaccines, although we may have that problem in future. Fortunately, it’s very easy to combat an escape mutant when it occurs, using the latest technology.
There has not been a single person on this thread who has not wished Mr. Ledermann all the best very genuinely. Regardless of which side they stand on most of the time.
hat is off to Brian. good post - let’s keep it about Peter and those who are suffering 
Seriously, are ‘we’ really going to turn a thread about concern for Peter Ledermann, the man and respected creator of incredible audio equipment, into a mud slinging contest?

There must be better forums for that type of tripe.
@lewm 
@mijostynhat 

What are your thoughts on the gain of function research conducted at the Wuhan lab, partially subsidized by the NIH ( Fauci ).
In particular if this virus is man made, then I would as a layman assume that we dont know how it is going to mutate, that it may not behave like a naturally occurring virus and bascially we cant predict anything.

What are your thoughts.


Announcement coming Wednesday..Will let everyone know the news when and where I see the release.
Hopefully Peter's friends are looking in as well as others who have been laid up with covid. Beneficial to long haulers, perhaps.Tom
lewm,

You just wasted a lots of words. Save youself some effort.

This is what you are dealing with...

Blah blah blah yada yada whatever. FUDD: Fear Uncertainty Doubt Derision. Funny how the FUDD always no matter what winds up serving the interests of a large and callous government over the individual.



millercarbon
09-25-2020 7:18pm

That’s for sure. Tupu, the midrange magic, incredible detail, truth of timbre and dynamics gets even better with time. I took a break from all the constant tweaking and just sat back and enjoyed listening as things settle in. Last night Neil Diamond was so palpably there I had tears.

Unfortunately it will be a few days before I’m doing that again. Couldn’t catch my breath, went to urgent care, now admitted at Highline with pneumonia...



millercarbon 09-26-2020 11:17pm

Working in health care I see every day how almost all MDs are little more than rules-followers. Very few actually follow any thought process. They even say, that’s not our protocol. Which is fancy language for you have this so we give you that, never mind the reasons why. So they put me on expensive, risky, iffy remdesivir, and they will do an even more experimental transfusion. But a known cheap effective safe drug? That’s not our protocol. Morons.

Fortunately millercarbon is no moron, and bought HCQ months ago, just in case. Wife brought it in, and so I’m able to get proper meds in spite of the docs.

Not finding any rubinal. Do you mean robinul?


millercarbon
09-28-2020 1:50am
There’s a lot of anger in Australia right now after having banned HCQ from a study that was completely debunked in the UK, where a doctor actually was using OD levels of HCQ in a study. It has been completely debunked and the doctor involved was found out. Timing in the use of this drug, according to the report is more important. The bans in Australia are expiring, and with the truth now uncovered, it seems it may become used in early stages of the viral infection?!

ALL the "studies" used to discredit HCQ are rigged one way or another. But I have neither the time nor the patience nor the energy to explain all this, certainly not to this crowd of know-it-alls. Good to know at least some in Aus are figuring it out.

The gold standard treatment is 200 mg twice a day for 6 days, and taken with Azi and zinc. Mortality on this regimen is 30% lower than anything else.

millercarbon
10-17-2020 2:48pm

Its not dead, but I almost was. Nine days in hospital, multi-focal pneumonia bad enough they nearly had me on a vent. Kind of lost interest in the blather. Not the news, like your sub experience. But the blather. Which unfortunately the only thing seems capable of getting the blatherers to move along please is to leave them to their own devices. Sad. But true.
millercarbon
10-17-2020 9:34pm

I was at one point on 10 liters 02, which is a lot of oxygen, and even at that out of breath and feeling like I was about 10 feet underwater. That’s just lying there. Just to roll over, adjust blankets, was an effort it took a while to recover from. How close I was to being on a vent, I don’t want to know. Too close for comfort.


And, every cake needs icing...

millercarbon

12-13-2020 1:14pm

There is no pandemic, unless you want to talk about superstitious obedience to communist talking points. There is no pandemic, because there are no excess deaths. These are not talking points. These are the facts.

Excess deaths are just what it sounds like, more people die than normal. If there’s a pandemic then for sure there must be more people dead than normal. Whatever the cause. We can set that one aside for now. Forget how fake the testing is. Forget the exaggerated causes of death. Forget all that. If the word pandemic is to have any meaning at all it must be more people die than normal.

Well, its just not happening. And we can be certain its just not happening simply by following the money. The Social Security Administration pays benefits every month. More people die, less people collecting, less money paid out. Its pretty simple.

So you look at the graphs, and the graphs are flat. Not even a burble. There are no excess deaths. Its all fake news. Sorry. I know people have totally lost all ability to think and reason for themselves. Too bad. Don’t change the facts none.

Go figure!
a large and callous government over the individual
It's for-profit corporations over the individual. That's why this bullsh1t faces us all except the wealthy. 
lewm - thanks for the informed and lucid post.  Science must maintain primacy.