I’ve been asked to evaluate/beta test some new fuses that will be coming out soon. I should have them as soon as this coming Saturday.
At this point:
1. I cannot reveal the name of the manufacturer of the fuses. 2. I do not know what the retail price will be. 3. I do not know what the name of the fuse will be.
For comparison purposes, I have a full complement of SR Orange fuses that can be used throughout the system. I have one QSA Yellow fuse now being used in my ARC-PH8 phono stage, with another one to arrive soon to be used in my ARC REF-75se.
I’ll be comparing the SR Orange fuses, and the QSA fuses, with the new prototype fuses. I’ll also be using the ears of three of my well-seasoned audiophile friends, as well as my own to make the evaluations. These guys are all truth-tellers that I have full confidence in.
According to the manufacturer, these new fuses are real game-changers, so stay tuned.
"Yes! the Pioneer Elite 59-AVi is a very fine player. Will you trade out any Fuse(s) in that spinner ?"
I took the lid off and there is no fuse that can be removed. Before I sent the player to Grover, I compared it to my Grover-modified Pioneer Elite DV-05. The DV-05 was better by a large margin. When I got the 59-AVi back from Grover ... Wow! It walked all over the DV-05 ... and also my tube ARC-CD7se.
"The moral of this story is to perhaps treat with a little caution this gentleman's gushing effusive praise."
I'm sorry you didn't get much out of the PPT products. You are one of the very few that were disappointed that I know of. Everyone else raved about the products and they still are by the way. I noticed that you haven't listed your system in your profile. Are you using any Bybee products? Are you using any magnets in the system ... anywhere?
Fuses make a difference, everything matters and makes a
difference. The audiophile fuses are there to do the least damage, well
less damage than a cheap standard fuse anyway.
It
is amazing though that the improvements are reported to be so so ...
huge. I can hear the change in direction of a standard fuse in my system
and hear the effect of replacing said fuse with a better one so decided
to listen to what must then be the best 'fuse' possible: no fuse. The
amp I tried this experiment in now runs permanently fuseless. The zero
fuse betters all others I have tried but the difference between standard
and no fuse is not as great as some here make out!
Take
oregonpapa and his reporting of everything PPT. Whenever he added paste
to a connection he reported a lower noise floor and then describes the
sound of this particular pasting and then with the next paste of
whatever hears another amazing lowering of the noise floor and on and on
until it reaches the point of defying credulity. It is from his
persuasive enthusing that I bought some PPT products. First thing I did
was place 2 mats inside my breaker panel. Over a few days the sound
became progressively worse, by which I mean the sound hardened up and
took on a screechy brash upper register. Things did not improve when I
started treating contacts with the paste.
The
number of times he reported 'a lowering of the noise floor' seems
impossible to me. The noise must be so low now that there is nothing
anymore. The moral of this story is to perhaps treat with a little caution this gentleman's gushing effusive praise.
@mllercarbon do you have a link to these stones? I have a Blackhawk Mk3.1 too. Have you compared the stones to MiG 2.0s? My Blackhawk is also on an SR Tranquility Basik. Thanks.
Wow that is some story. My grandfather was a sharecropper. In the hierarchy of human misery sharecropper is one step up from slave. Brutal life, apparently too much for him, he ran off when my dad was still a child. Dad was so ashamed of being a sharecroppers son I never knew any of this until after he passed. Rural Florida, okay, it was a swamp. Last time down there grandma went out back and got a bullfrog for dinner with her slingshot. I couldn't even see what she was aiming at but she nailed it first try. Long time ago forget the details but pretty sure it wasn't frog legs Italian style.
Yeah they come 2 to a pack. So six all together. All 6 are on the Raven. Real smooth and natural, just like what you describe about your new fuses. The noise floor with all the stuff I have now is so low it is spooky the stuff you can hear.
oregonpapa" The new prototype fuses arrived in yesterday’s mail. For last night’s listening session, I replaced the SR Orange fuse in the line stage with one of the new prototypes. The results? ... It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect. There was a BIG improvement in overall clarity from top to bottom. And the midrange ... the midrange ... Zowie!"
So transparent. Of course it did, that was going to be a given
oregonpapa "I have Mister Golden Ears coming over tomorrow to take a listen. He’s a very critical listener."
Really!! you said "It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect" So then why do you need Mr Golden Ears to convince you of what your hearing.
jetter "It’s a little ironic. The mantra used to be that the improvement in sound from the addition of audiophile fuses was the equivalent of buying a new component."
This is all that one needs to know
cerberus79 "A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?"
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead. A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar. As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show.
"... there are a few tricks in the old dog yet, eh?"
I’m finding that old age isn’t what it is cracked up to be, Chuck. I now know why so many old people are grumpy and yell at kids to get the hell off of their lawns.
The audio system and my music are one of the things that keep me going. In addition to audio, I also have a terrific collection of books to occupy my mind. Not much fiction, just a lot of great wordsmiths and a lot of history. It is important in the latter days of life to maintain one’s interest in new things. It keeps the mind active and sharp, even if the body is falling apart.
Modern technology is really amazing. When I was a kid, I thought Dick Tracy’s two-way watch was totally far-fetched. Now look ... two years ago, at the age of 81, I had some DNA testing done and discovered that I had an entire family living 3000 miles away in Pennslyvania. My father, who was killed when I was seven, had been married before he met my mother. All of these years, I had no idea at all. I was shocked to learn that I had two half brothers and a half-sister. My eldest daughter, her husband and I, flew to Pennsylvania to meet everyone. The brothers and sister had already passed on. I missed my second half brother by only six months. There were tons of nieces, nephews and cousins to meet though. So, though all of these years, I had a huge Italian family back east and had no clue. The food they prepared for us each evening was spectacular. All homemade Italian cuisine made by total experts ... my nieces and nephews.
Because of the Internet, and particularly because of this site, I have Internet friends all across the country who I keep in contact with via texts and phone calls. Who knew? I used to think that flying a kite on a windy day was high-tech. Now we carry high-powered computers in our shirt pockets and call them "phones."
With all of this in mind, I have to laugh at the fuse/tweak naysayers who disbelieve those of us who know the score. They are still in awe of Dick Tracy watches.
Excuse me for rambling. Those stones sound interesting. I thought they came in two packs. Are you using only three stones, or are you using six? :-)
oregonpapa (from 8 posts up and on the previous page, which is how far back you have to go to get past the people prone to rudely wrecking and sidetracking substantive discussions because they are too lazy to start their own -
MC >>>
" Anyway, whatever it is and however it works the results are freaking fantastic. I put six of those little Stone things on my Raven last night and it was absofreakinglutely insane!"
See ... that’s what I mean. Just when we think we have it nailed, along comes another product to prove how wrong we were. That’s what the prototype fuses are doing here.
On the "stones" --- I know they come in two packs and that there are three varieties. So, are you using all three varieties or all the same? Also, where are you placing them in order to get the best effects?
Oh, and by the way, the question came up by another A’goner via phone call who wanted to know if I could see inside the prototype fuses. The answer is no. The glass is completely black and can’t be seen through.
Thanks ...
Frank
One of each. Wrote it up on the QSA thread. Unlike the disruptors above I like to try and stick to the subject. Since you are the OP and asked about this, the way they are described on the site was sort of Red warm/bass, Blue midrange, Clear extension. My system is beautifully balanced so I figured one of each- and it worked out great!
Haven't had them long enough to know where is best, but they are all on The Blackhawk now running in a line across the transformer cover. Transformers are great places for stuff like this (Mat, eCard, etc) probably because they are mostly fields anyway.
Might try moving them around a little tonight. Then again maybe not. I am pretty good at finding places that work, but then when the results are so enjoyable it is hard for me to do anything but sit there and enjoy it, you know?
Besides, that's what I have you for! You gave me the speaker idea, speaker cable idea, and now the fuse, there are a few tricks in the old dog yet, eh?
Rubber Soul has long been my favorite of theirs, but Revolver is mighty fine too. Their sound changed quite a bit between those two albums; George and John switched from Gretsch and Rickenbacker guitars to matching Epiphone Casinos, Paul from a Hofner bass to a Rickenbacker, and all of them from Vox amps to Fender. Ringo's drum sound changed a lot too, from small and muffled to big and boomy. I also heard Abbey Road made the switch from tube electronics to solid state between the two albums, but that may just be myth.
oregonpapa "The new prototype fuses arrived in yesterday’s mail. For last night’s listening session, I replaced the SR Orange fuse in the line stage with one of the new prototypes. The results? ... It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect. There was a BIG improvement in overall clarity from top to bottom. And the midrange ... the midrange ... Zowie!
So transparent. Of course it did, that was going to be a given
oregonpapa "I have Mister Golden Ears coming over tomorrow to take a listen. He's a very critical listener."
Really!! you said "It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect" so then why do you need Mr Golden Ears to convince you of what your hearing.
jetter "It’s a little ironic. The mantra used to be that the improvement in sound from the addition of audiophile fuses was the equivalent of buying a new component."
This is all that one needs to know
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
Over the decades, I got down to Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper - largely for the technical achievement. Geoff Emerick was a freaking genius! Geoff Emerick - Wikipedia
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
@cerberus79 I rarely post anything here. I did so this
time because I had direct experience on the topic and reported it in a
factual and non judgmental fashion. My reward was to be called a lier by
one member and told I was in the wrong hobby by another ( I have been
in this hobby for 49 years ). I am and always have been in this hobby
for the enjoyment of music. I once got into a discussion with Geof Kait
on the directionality of fuses and realized
You/we are
lucky GK has disappeared (or been banned) he was a real comic piece of
work but fitted in well in these types of threads, and his website is
really out there https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm best one is the pebbles.
As for your Maggies I had quite a bit to do with them owning the big Tympanies also, before going on to big ESL’s.
cerberus79A
few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon
member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to
them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss
fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of
friends and neither I or them could hear a difference.
As
you stated no difference in sound whether 10cent Bussman fuses were in
or $150 SR Orange were in, to yourself or when the guys were around to
do the A/B with.
cerberus79 Has the purpose of a
fuse been lost ? How it is designed to work ? By design there is no
directionality in a fuse. it is simply designed to open in an
overcurrent situation. If it was directional in relation to the current
passing through it would be a diode
Same thing I say to them, if it’s directional then it’s trying to be a diode, and that NOT good in either direction!
But
I can tell your Maggies will sound a touch better with just a piece of
copper wire soldered lightly outside of the fuse clamps and no fuses.
This makes them vulnerable to an amp blowing and going dc, as you know
having electronic knowledge background, but no more so than any other
speaker would have no dc protection either.
oregonpapa OP It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect. So transparent.
Of course it did, that was going to be a given There’s ulterior rewards to say it did, and nothing to reap if it didn’t. And then to s******g with everyones head😜 to make things look legit, you’ll do a reversal on that, so the other fusee will reward you for a few more months.
Well, okay @wolf_garcia, only the sitar ;-). Harrison said he didn’t touch a guitar for a coupla years, and you can hear it. His playing on "Rain" and "Paperback Writer" (both fabulous songs) was great (and on a lot of Revolver, their last excellent album imo), next thing we knew he was writing and playing "Within You Without You", a real nothing of a song. Plus, he was no master of that Indian instrument, just a barely passable dabbler, if that.
Acid (I’ll assume) lead Lennon to think Yoko was an artist, and we got "Number 9". I rest my case! To be clear, I love "Strawberry Fields Forever" (acid drenched though it is), and about half the white album. Sgt. Pepper has a LOT of filler, a vastly over-rated album imo. The Let It Be album is dreadful, unlistenable. By the time of Abbey Road they were in my rear view mirror, left in the dust by The Band, Dylan, Van Morrison, Randy Rewman, Ry Cooder, Jackson Browne, etc. etc. They had over-stayed their welcome with me, and were passed their sell-by date.
" Anyway, whatever it is and however it works the results are freaking fantastic. I put six of those little Stone things on my Raven last night and it was absofreakinglutely insane!"
See ... that’s what I mean. Just when we think we have it nailed, along comes another product to prove how wrong we were. That’s what the prototype fuses are doing here.
On the "stones" --- I know they come in two packs and that there are three varieties. So, are you using all three varieties or all the same? Also, where are you placing them in order to get the best effects?
Oh, and by the way, the question came up by another A’goner via phone call who wanted to know if I could see inside the prototype fuses. The answer is no. The glass is completely black and can’t be seen through.
I think there's at least two different things going on Frank. The Gate and a lot of Krissy's stuff I think of as more of a sink than a filter. Can't be a filter in the normal sense because nothing goes through it. It is not in the circuit, at least not in the normal way we understand a circuit. She will probably have a heart attack but I have explained this a few times and it is so alien to our understanding of electricity I have total confidence in being able to explain it clear as day and yet no one gets it. The Gate is an open circuit. A lot of this stuff is. Shouldn't even work. But it does.
Then there is your Mat, your QSA Stones (which I just tried last night) and other stuff that is even less of a circuit. This is stuff that just lays there sort of close and therefore can only act via field control. Everything electrical has a magnetic field which is why it is called an electromagnetic field the one goes with the other they are one and the same we just like to divide stuff up even when it is the same thing.
This brings us to the fuse. How's the fuse gonna filter anything? It could be made of materials used in the first two situations. Something like used in the Stones or Mat - or TC or NPS for that matter. This is in fact what we do when we dab some TC or NPS on the fuse. Nobody ever said it can be only one thing. We can do it all.
But the main thing I think is going on with the fuse is a massive improvement in power transfer speed.
You probably already know the way faster hexfred diodes improve detail, image depth and liquidity. Same for higher quality power supply caps. I think the fuse is working the same way. Not filtering, but simply allowing power to flow so much smoother and faster that the resulting sound is clean and free of artifacts. It sounds as if it is filtered even though it is not.
Anyway, whatever it is and however it works the results are freaking fantastic. I put six of those little Stone things on my Raven last night and it was absofreakinglutely insane! Yes a big part is Claire Marlo and Michael Ruff are superbly recorded. But, come on, man! 🤣🤣😍😍 The improvement, to mix metaphors, was yuge! 🤣🤣 Bigly!😁😍
From the above, it sounds like EQ and / or slight deltas in head position
given that all speakers have a certain amount of inertia and below a very low threshold, do not move. Since the speakers must be moving differently to have audible deltas, with a 32 bit A/D it should be child's play to digitize the speaker feed and show the GVF* vs GPF** delta.
"... is there a chance that the actual ambient noises of the recording studios or live performance halls are what is being reduced?"
Not a chance. What is being reduced is electronic hash/noise from the AC entering the system. What that does is allow one to listen in to the recording more. Last night I was listening to a live Fleetwood Mac recording and was really taken by how present the venue was. I also played a studio recording of a jazz combo, and again, the recording venue was clearly defined. In an earlier post, I mentioned a Bud Shank flute/Koto recording where it was like the Koto player was sitting on the floor to the rear and left of the left speaker. As I said, these tweaks, including the new prototype fuses are all working to get me closer to the music, the musicians, and the instruments they play.
It is appalling how dirty the AC power entering our homes really is. Every time I try one of these noise-lowering tweaks, I think there's no more noise to be removed. The PPT "GATE" was extremely effective in lowering noise. At that point, I thought I had the noise issue solved for sure. Little did I know how much further the system could be taken. Again, after installing more tweaks and devices to lower noise, I thought I had the noise issue solved. Then, along comes the prototype fuses. Zowie. They are really good.
As a side note, I got the word this morning that the introduction date will be mid-October. No word on price yet.
O’papa For many or at least some, for whatever reasons good or bad, the equipment noise floor is not such a concern or noticeable problem as it seems for you. With all the revelatory reductions in noise floor over the years, with multiple fuses and other tweaks, is there a chance that the actual ambient noises of the recording studios or live performance halls are what is being reduced?
"Weird...sort of like believing that fuses can influence the tone of sound reproduction devices."
I don't think the fuses are influencing the sound. I think they are getting out of the way of the sound. In other words, they allow for lower noise saturation throughout the system. Like everything else that has lowered noise in the system, more of what is on the recording is heard at the speaker end. This may sound weird, but most of the tweaks I've talked about in this forum over the past five years or so have done exactly that. The PPT Gate, mats, TC, etc., all have had their influence by lowering the noise floor. All of the aftermarket fuses I've tried over the years have done the same thing. With these latest fuses, both the QSA Yellow and the new prototypes, the noise is lowered even further.
refresh my memory, the same Gate that allowed your refrigerator to run colder ? IF so, a …..well lets just say monumental IF, wouldn’t an energy starved world beat a perfect path to that door ? Fuses seem like …well hind tit….
Wait...hold on...LSD and the Sitar ruined the Beatles? Revolver and Sgt. Pepper are not good things? Weird...sort of like believing that fuses can influence the tone of sound reproduction devices. Also note that generally very few listeners buy into either thing.
Frank, +1 for: "The only reason ... and I mean the ONLY reason I go through all of this is to GET ME CLOSER TO THE MUSIC, THE ARTISTS PLAYING IT, AND THE INSTRUMENTS THEY ARE USING TO PLAY IT."
That has been my experience as well. Nicely stated!
Thanks for your response and apologies for the disgusting grammar - not sure what happened but I think I should not post from my phone anymore!
I also use tube gear and found when correctly implemented tubes to be exceptionally accurate and natural to an extent that I have not heard from solid state. I just wanted to confirm what you meant by tube sound. Your description of the fuse sounds interesting - something worth having a look at. Please keep us posted as to when they will be released. Thanks
1. Yes, they are in the same performance range as the QSA Yellow fuses. I now have three of the prototype fuses to play with, and two of the QSA Yellow fuses as well. Overall, I’d say that both fuses are a revelation in the fused world, but overall, I am preferring the prototype fuses by quite a margin.
2. When I say tube-like, I’m not referring to that old-time tube gear sound. I’m talking about the more neutral sound of modern tube gear like Audio Research. It just seems more life-like in the area of a three-dimensional presentation like tubes do. The QSA does a nice job of fleshing out the details as good solid-state gear does. But the prototype fuses are no slouch in the detail department either ... just in a more relaxed way.
I took a date to a musical at the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion in Los Angeles one evening. We were early. There was a jazz quartet playing in the foyer. Bass, drums, keyboard, and soprano sax. We had about 45 minutes to listen before we had to enter the auditorium. What struck me the most was how relaxed that live, unamplified jazz combo sounded. I kept closing my eyes and comparing what I was hearing to my stereo rig at home. No contest. Real, live music is relaxed. It is detailed, has beautiful tonal structures, and is again relaxed. THAT is what I am getting from these prototype fuses. Not so much from the QSA Yellows.
3. Which fuse is better for tube or solid-state gear? I’d say it would be a matter of taste. As you can see from the above ... I’ve made my choice.
4. On price >>> I’ve made my humble opinion known to the manufacturer on a couple of occasions. If they stick to that, they will be VERY competitively priced. Once the word gets out, I think they will sell like hotcakes. What audiophile in his/her right mind wouldn’t want this?
On a side note, one of my audiophile friends came over last night for another listen. He’s the one that I did the first a/b/a/b/a/b comparisons of the two fuses with. His comment last night was ... "Frank, I actually think these prototypes are doing as much for the system as your Perfect Path Technologies "Gate."
So, I can’t say it any better than that. Take care ...
Frank, I was trying to follow the thread but the tiresome from down under has made it difficult.
I'm I right to so you think the fuses your review were in the same performance range as QSM yellow? If so, how do they rate price wise?
Do you have any opinion as to what type of equipment they would be best suited to? You mentioned it has "tube sound" so may it be better suited for solid state components?
4,300 posts "Improvement over improvement over improvement over improvement over.... One begins to wonder where the system started out from to allow for so much...."
For me, the trip down the stereo road all started out with a Nikko receiver, a Micro Seiki turntable, and a pair of Sonab 400 speakers way back in, I think, 1972. I thought it was great. Then, I discovered tubes. It has been a quest for better sound ever since.
Millercarbon ...
You are exactly correct. It is all about the love of music. I remember as a little kid back in the early 1940s during WWII ... I must have been only three or four years old. My parents hung out at the beach a lot. There was a dance hall right there on the boardwalk. I used to wander off and sit right at the front door and listen to music. Little did I know at the time that I was listening to some of the best big bands of the era. Orchestras like Tommy Dorsey, Glen Gray, and Glenn Miller come to mind.
I’ve carried the love of music with me all of my life. I’ve traveled through the Doo Wop and Rythem and Blues era. Through the BeBop jazz era. Through the Big Bill Broonzy blues era. I protested the Elvis and Beatles era and refused to listen to them because I believed they were making a fortune off of the backs of the great Black artists who came before them. Then, I settled in on West Coast jazz with the likes of Brubeck, Tjader, and Howard Rumsey’s Light House All-Stars. Then, other music-loving friends introduced me to classical music and opera. I wonder how many posters here own any Rita Streich albums, let alone ever heard of her?
So, that brings me around to my present-day stereo system, and all of the tweaks done to it. The only reason ... and I mean the ONLY reason I go through all of this is to GET ME CLOSER TO THE MUSIC, THE ARTISTS PLAYING IT, AND THE INSTRUMENTS THEY ARE USING TO PLAY IT.
At this point, I have collected well over 5000 LPs and several thousand CDs.
It is an incremental journey for sure, but some of the latest innovations like these new fuses ... and other things I cannot talk about in public, have worked to get me there in giant steps. Kudos to the designers for allowing that to happen.
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
It has been so long I can no longer remember who it was but back in grade school there was this kid who got so petulant at losing he took all his toys and went home. This always puzzled me. Why did he think anyone wanted to play with him in the first place?
I majored in business with a minor in risk management and insurance. Erisch is of course correct.
Meanwhile-
Improvement over improvement over improvement over improvement over.... One begins to wonder where the system started out from to allow for so much....
Doesn’t matter. The fact of the matter is the very best anyone can do today is still laughably far from replicating reality. When we gush about how something is so much better, more real and lifelike and whatnot, this all stems from a love of music. Only when we really love something, deep and strong, does anyone care when it is made a little bit better. For those of us who care any improvement however small is important and worth the effort.
Of course we know not everyone does care. Plenty of people studiously maintain an air of impartial aloofness making a show of not caring while at the same time calling themselves audiophiles. It is sad, and we do feel sorry for you. But it would help a lot if since you really don’t care you would be consistent and not care enough to be rubbing your not care in our faces all the time. Go not care somewhere else. Leave the listening to those of us who do.
Should you upgrade the fuse in a power conditioner? I have an AQ Niagra 1200. I would think the fuse that comes with a conditioner would be high quality. No?
Improvement over improvement over improvement over improvement over.... One begins to wonder where the system started out from to allow for so much....
And in the meantime, and back on topic ... as the prototype fuses continue their break-in process, the audio system continues to improve.
Last night’s listening session was spectacular. I was listening to some jazz played on a Hammond B3 Organ. Incredible tubey midrange in a very good way.
Another LP I played last night was a gift from Mister Golden Ears ... a Japanese import of a guitarist playing Japanese folk music in the style of a Koto. It was fantastic and in the room. I find the unique rhythm patterns of Japanese music played on Kotos to be beautifully fascinating. I can’t tell you anything about the album because the cover and liner notes are all in Japanese, and I don’t speak the language.
So, that led me to take out the Bud Shank/Koto album. It was the best I’ve ever heard this album sound. Lots of air and three-dimensionality. It was as though the Koto player was sitting just behind and to the left of the left speaker. Superb playing by both Bud Shank on flute and by Kimio Eto the Koto player.
Not true, a fire is covered regardless of cause (except arson by the building owner). If the offending fuse was installed by a third party, the insurance company might have legal recourse to recover their payout.
Under your logic, if you left the bacon on the stove unattended and it started a kitchen fire there would be no coverage. Wrong!
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