NEW PROTOTYPE FUSES COMING >>>

I look forward to your review.  IMO, the QSA yellow are better than SR Orange.  

Im fused out for sure.

Fused out, or just confused? :-)

I suspect it'll be a favorable review.

Looking forward to to your findings. The more choices we have  the better.
‘There sure seems to be a lot of new fuses coming out lately.
 I tried many fuses over the years, they do seem to be getting better.
 I tried to SR orange fuse in my amps but my amps didn’t like the physical fit. And yes I got the right size. I felt that I was warping the fuse to get it in the amps, they should have fit.

 I ordered the QSA fuses a few weeks ago. I have received 1 fuse so far. Waiting on the second fuse to arrive. The QSA fuse are a little smaller than the SR fuses. 6.3mm x 30mm. SR fuses are 6.3mm x 32mm.
hope they  fit my amps better.

‘Fuses used to be the 3AG type years ago. 1/4” x 1-1/4”. The SR fuses should have fit. I measured the SR fuses with my digital caliper, they seemed to be ok.
‘Good luck with your evaluations.
‘Respectfully 
Joe

I wonder what the market will be for vintage and used fuses? 

Living the life, eh, Frank? 😉

I'm dazed and confused.  Whatever they are, I hope there won't be the typical game of increasing the amperage value of the fuse because they have a tendency to blow.  I'm done with that game.

No!!! enough is enough, this is just yet another con job to suck in the ones that have already been conned, and look at who's at the helm.

"Living the life, eh, Frank?"

If things were to get any better, Chuck, I'd think the deck was stacked. :-)

I suggest the name Gravity Well

or Salt Mine

Enjoy!    
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m_QZALDzzA

georgehifi ...

Let’s see who wears out first ... you with posting your nonsense and insults, or me reporting you to the Mods. I’d bet on me outlasting you because I know what my level of endurance is.

Bye.

Frank

Shackleton eat your heart out. "Difficulties are just things to overcome, after all."    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgh_77TtX5I

+1 @oregonpapa 

It seems some people’s sole contribution in life is to annoy others. Our little “friend” a prime example. 

I will only get them if they are at least $300.00 each.HO HO!!

Let’s see who wears out first

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

cerberus79
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member.
To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference.
I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?

To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.

A fuse:
1: two end caps
2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).

To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

It is the morally correct thing for A'gon "shadow endorsers" to disclose any actual or potential financial relationship with the product manufacturers even more than the full blown manufacturers and retailers whose self interests are clear.

jetter,

Do you have any actual evidence that these “shadow endorsers” you are preaching to are real, or do you just know they exist?

The new prototype fuses arrived in yesterday’s mail. For last night’s listening session, I replaced the SR Orange fuse in the line stage with one of the new prototypes. The results? ... It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect. There was a BIG improvement in overall clarity from top to bottom. And the midrange ... the midrange ... Zowie!

I’m looking forward to tonight’s listening session. I will be replacing the QSA Yellow fuse in the phono stage with one of these new prototypes. If what I heard on the line stage last night is any indication, I think the midrange abnormality I talked about previously with the QSA Yellow fuse will most likely be further evidenced.

Stay tuned ...

Frank

Do you have any actual evidence that the QSA fuses improve sound quality, or do you just know it does?

jetter2,302 posts

Do you have any actual evidence that the QSA fuses improve sound quality, or do you just know it does?

The proof is in the listening. Come on over and hear it for yourself. a/b fuse comparisons are easy to do on my rig. 

Frank

It killed the SR Orange fuse in every respect.

So transparent.

Of course it did, that was going to be a given
There’s ulterior rewards to say it did, and nothing to reap if it didn’t.
And then to s w with everyones head😜 to make things look legit, you’ll do a reversal on that, so the other fusee will reward you for a few more months.

jetter,

There is a difference between making veiled accusations and describing what one hears.

Of course it did, that was going to be a given
There’s ulterior rewards to say it did, and nothing to reap if it didn’t.

Total fail. The only "reward" is credibility. If Frank does a good job describing what he hears then others will hear it too and over time Frank will gain credibility. But if Frank gets it wrong then it is only a matter of time before others figure this out and there goes his reputation. No one will care what he has to say one way or the other. This includes the manufacturer. Who in their right mind is gonna give expensive stuff away to someone with zero credibility? They only do this when you are credible. With people like Frank. 

If Frank does his job well then it is the manufacturer who takes all the risk. Frank can say good or bad, he wins either way when everyone finds out he was true and honest.  

This is where we separate the men from the boys. Blather all you want boys, while Frank steps up and shows us the way.   

Once you understand what is really going on then it also is plain as day it does not matter whether Frank got this stuff for free, or paid dearly, or anywhere in between. Doesn't even matter what he paid for any of it. All that matters is he accurately evaluate the differences between the choices. So we know how one performs relative to another. All that matters.  

In other words then not only are the criticism and name-calling undeserved, they show a deep misunderstanding of what it is to evaluate, or review, and indeed what it is to make choices. We all must make choices of one kind or another in building our systems. If one cannot understand even this much, what chance do they have?   

Somewhere between slim, and none. 

I‘m sure Frank will act impartially with an open mind seeking to eliminate any preconceptions or bias: terms which seem to be totally alien to our resident curmudgeon

Frank,

Are any of your previous fuse findings based on pasting with PPT?

slaw ...

• "Are any of your previous fuse findings based on pasting with PPT?"
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The QSA Yellow fuse that is/was in the phono stage was evaluated both ways ... with Total Contact and without. Putting TC on the endcaps seemed to calm the midrange down a bit and put a little more meat on the bones. Both ways, the QSA Yellow fuse sounded dynamic, transparent, went deep in the bass, but I still can’t get around that thin (for lack of a better word) midrange.

So for tonight’s listening session, I replaced the QSA Yellow fuse in the phone stage for one of the prototype fuses. The result? ... The midrange is back in spades. The sound stage is huge and the musicality is really something special.

So at this point, I have an SR Orange fuse in the amp, a prototype fuse in both the line and phono stage. Things are sounding amazing.

Tomorrow, I will replace the SR Orange fuse in the Amp for one of the prototype fuses. That will put prototype fuses in all three pieces of the electronics. We’ll see what happens.

I received another QSA Yellow fuse in today’s mail. So, after tomorrow’s listening session, I will replace the two prototype fuses that will be in the line stage and amp with the QSA Yellow fuses. Stay tuned.

Frank

oregonpapa

I would be interested in reading about a Fuse-Shootout involving your ARC cd player.

Happy Listening!

millercarbon ...

Thanks for your vote of confidence. I'm trying my best to report what I'm hearing as accurately as possible. My only goal here is to tweak my system to the Nth degree possible and then to share the results with the rest of the members here.

For the naysayers, there is no monetary reward. The reward comes at the end when the system sitting in my living room becomes transformed into this incredible magic music machine like it did tonight. I had a friend over, someone who knows my system very well, and the guy was flabbergasted by what he heard. Me too. 

Frank

jafant ...

"I would be interested in reading about a Fuse-Shootout involving your ARC cd player."

I wish I could tell you. The CD-7se had a laser failure and I haven't used it in over a year. I'm using a modified Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi DVD player that I found in almost new condition. I had Grover Huffman do the modifications, and I have to say, I think it runs circles around the ARC unit. Grover is THE man. 

Frank

Mighty impressive Frank especially in light of the prototype being new while QSA and SR have lots of hours. 

oregonpapa   I think your posts on this are fiction.  I don't think you're testing fuses at all.  I think you just want to see which of us fantasists will suck it all in.

I re-fuse to care about any of this nonsense.

"I re-fuse to care about any of this nonsense." 

I'm refusing and things are improving dramatically.  :=)

millercarbon ...

I spoke with the manufacturer yesterday about how good the prototypes sounded right out of the box. His response was ... "they continue improving as they break-in."

clearthinker ... 

Busted. :=)

Can I come and watch? I could use a good laugh in Oregon.

I think you just want to see which of us fantasists will suck it all in.

"Us" implies that you consider yourself to be amongst the fantasists, was that your conscious decision?

Can I come and watch? I could use a good laugh in Oregon.

Are YOU in Oregon?

@oregonpapa , Frank, how many mushrooms did you swallow?

mijostyn ...

• "Frank, how many mushrooms did you swallow?"

Was it my "Magic Music Machine" comment that gave it away? 

The primary effects of psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD are visual and breaking down the illusion of the ego. They do not for the most part affect the perception of sound. Not directly, anyway. You still hear everything as usual. It is more like you don't care as much, realizing you are the universe and all.

@millercarbon are you speaking from 1st hand experience?

I will be jumping on 6 ASAP!!