^ I concur ✌️
Jay’s Audio Lab is shutting down
Not sure why except he says he’s getting a bigger building somewhere.
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@emergingsoul - he's right about the better sounding room; that can have more of an impact on your sound than any piece of gear besides maybe the speakers. |
When I saw this video I thought he was ending his videos. And now I see he’s got more videos coming out. I thought he said jay Audiolab was coming to an end. He’s a marketing person and he’s just moving to another room.. It’s like taking your family on vacation, it’s just a change of scenery that’s all, it’s not a vacation. So I watched another of his videos just coming out today and it’s all about preaching about what you need to do to create a better sounding room. You need to spend a lot of money on every single facet of your Soundsystem. he said it all makes a difference. Jay is a marketing genius. I’m not sure how much he really knows about the equipment he is talking about but he does keep things interesting. |
I also think Jay is a good honest guy, much more so than those reviewers in the magazines. Jay will tell you a room he didn’t like at an audio show where up until a year ago, you would never hear a magazine reviewer state an expensive gear room sounded bad. I personally think that Jay’s comments about bad sounding rooms at axpona made a magazine review of axpona have a section on bad sounding rooms. |
I checked out Jay’s website to see if any of his gears being sold off before his move and there’s only like one speaker and a few pieces of very high priced gear but not much else. I thought he would sell the tad speakers but no. Maybe they’ll be a sale before he moves. Maybe He’s going into a partnership with an audio dealer. His famous name will mean a lot to that dealer. |
I wish he discussed how he purchases his items he reviews....Is he getting new units from dealers he has connections with at a steep discount so he can always sell them used and recover his money? is he buying his gear used? he always says he uses his own money so they aren't loaned from the manufacture for review unless he is lying. There is def no way he is paying full retail for any of this stuff or he would lose his tail on it because he doesn't make enough off of the videos alone to eat up that depreciation loss every time he opens a box and makes a product used. |
Ive followed and enjoyed Jays content for a few years Recently noted my questions on his live streams being ignored and the disappearing. I am respectful when I ask the question (it’s about speaker cabinet material ) But he will not engage. I can only think it’s because I’ve purchased stuff from OCD Mikey. This is something that has repeated itself over a few livestreams Whatever it is, it is a thing, I think it’s petty so I can no longer support his channel. I’ve even paid him $$$ to consult with me about my system Wish him the best in Texas. I admire him for tossing the 9-5 thing and going for his dream . Posting this to highlight something is off with him and not quite right. Just from my dealings with him |
Jay needs a YouTube channel to sustain his personal lavish audiophile interests. If he can afford all that gear, that’s all good and well. But why must he then constantly flaunt his gear for all the world to see and brag about being into ultra high-end gear, which he needs a YouTube channel to sustain? The editorial in the latest edition of The Absolute Sound alludes to him not being an audiophile “expert” and questions arise as to how he qualifies to be a recognized reviewer. |
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Been following him for a few years. Unfortunately, 100% of what he covers are priced more than an automobile but I am simply curious.. His presentation style is a bit off-putting to me (I feel he is LECTURING ME but that’s me) and has the tendency to drag on and on... Youtube algorithm inspired?
I do wish him the very best. The audiophile HiFi market is so small, the ultra high end is even smaller. Not sure how he can sustain this if he does not go down market... |
I bought a few things from Jay. He was honest,pleasant,promp,and friendly.we do not have a brick and morter store like the big cities and no time to go to the big audio shows. His prices were the lowest at the time. Have not had any problems with his merchandise and was as advertised. Wish him well and still watch some of his reviews. Enjoy the hobby. |
I watched a few of his videos. For me, not that it matters, the whole thing doesn't add up. He has 36K subscribers and most of his videos get a minimal number of views (5K-25K). I think it's reasonably safe to say he's not making lunch money (once a month) from direct youtube income. It's hard to believe that viewership is driving deep discounts on gear such that he can support his habit and a family, a house... I have nothing against the guy. I wish him well in whatever he decides to take on. I just don't see a successful business model given the face value of the info he offers. (..and I worked for a fortune 500 company for my career..unless you're a VP or senior Director in HR, the pay is miserable, relative to other non-HR positions/divisions..so he didn't make a fortune there, at his age) I hope he does well..whatever it is..he's a mystery to me though. |
I enjoy Jay's videos because he gives us a close look at some really great equipment that we don't always see on YouTube. It seems the channels are endless that show $300 amps, but not many at the ultra high end. Even thought I'm not in the market for $200k speakers or $150k amps, I find it interesting and he has some decent deals on used gear. I don't know what his deal is with manufacturers, but I've heard him point out negative aspects of some of this equipment, something you won't often find from the mags or most YouTubers. I discount Jay's subjective opinions, but I do that with most reviewers-no one can tell you what will sound the best to your ears. I rate Jay several notches above Huff in credibility, but I'm not in to communing with the dead-if that's your thing, all the power to you. So, good luck to Jay. |
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I agree with a few comments that he’s likely moving to Texas. I think the GR Research visit triggered an epiphany. You could see the look of envy throughout the video. Let’s make no mistake Jay is doing this as a business. Whatever will generate clicks and views is where the channel will go. I appreciate that he takes on the level of gear he does but I always found that in his room he’s not even experiencing what that gear can fully do. Not saying it sounds bad but some of that stuff is really designed to sound great in large spaces. You can get sound just as good with gear built for the size of his space. It’s like he’s driving a Lamborghini in 5pm traffic. Sure it’s still a cool car and you can get a few moments of joy but until you get it on the track you’re not experiencing what it can really do. |
I read one of the 3 "gushing" threads you linked because I feel more A/B testing of cables is needed. Also, it was pretty short. I didn't see any gushing in it, to the contrary, but I certainly noticed this:
A fundamental truth if there ever was one, gentlemen.
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++1000 Mike |
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I only answered to a post mocking with sarcasms Huff speaking with the dead because he is not just an audio reviewer but he communicate with the deads on another channel.. I like Huff, he is like Jay an honest gentleman.... Most people dont know about death proven to be nonexistant, the falling body is death with no lost of consciousness, thats all proven by Hospitals research and perception out of the body or at distance proven by CIA ... Anyone reading mystical philosophy know that since Plato ... About acoustics it is like about death we must inform ourselves to understand the miracles of acoustics deep meanings ...i already posted many articles on this but most people dont read much...
Thanks for your book recommendation
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@emergingsoul "a lab is a really nice dog."
Give the fake ignorance about him and his channel a rest. Below are 3 gushing Jay's threads that you started, including the one in March 2024 where you "announced" his pending move to Texas https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/youtube-star-jay-loves-mcintosh-mc-901-amplifier https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/jays-audio-yt-channel-takes-on-ab-testing-of-cables
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@mahgister I have to know, how did we get from, Jay’s Audio Lab is shutting down, to; "By the way death dont exist then those who accused him of being a crook must study a bit more about the discovery made by CIA (remote viewing and out of body perception NDE etc ) and Hospitals researchers about NDE experiments... There is books to cultivate our intellectual level about death as well as about acoustics which is audio key not the gear, high end or not ..." There was a book popular within audio circles some years ago: Margins of Reality: The Role of Consciousness in the Physical World by Robert Jahn and Brenda Dunne, that touched on (I think it's what you're talking about). Why did you pivot and bring this up regarding what Jay's up to? Plus, my Grammarly software went off like fireworks.
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I dont understand hate... Only stupid people can hate... Jay is honest and humble as man... It is enough for me... I dont give a damn about high end product as much as i am not interested at all by Lamborghini by the way.. I listen Jay time to time just for fun and interest for the man dedication... I like honest simple people Jay is one and Huff too ... By the way death dont exist then those who accused him of being a crook must study a bit more about the discovery made by CIA (remote viewing and out of body perception NDE etc ) and Hospitals researchers about NDE experiments... There is books to cultivate our intellectual level about death as well as about acoustics which is audio key not the gear, high end or not ...
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@fpomposo : So are you one of the fortunate 1% that can spend five and six figures on a component? |
Jay is freaking awesome , no one has content like him, his access and ability to review and showcase some of the most expensive and badass gear that most of us can only dream of owning is unparalleled... I don’t give a crap if he is flipping or has deals with the manufacturers, that’s how he runs his business and he’s doing a great service to the audiophile community... Odd how many haters there are on here, kinda pathetic honestly.. The reality is he isn’t going anywhere, he’s leveling up and is gonna have even better content and badder ass gear and systems in a bigger badder ass room, and the haters are just jealous because they will never own the stuff he gets his hands on |
I thought he was in search of the perfect amplifier and has trouble making up his mind. I think it's incredible we get to look at all this high-end gear which otherwise we wouldn't be seeing. Why don't manufacturers do a better job displaying their products. I'd run a YouTube channel if they paid me to Connect and turn on gear. a lab is a really nice dog.
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Sometime ago along the way when he was here on A'gon, we exchanged some nasty words with each other...maybe some of you remember. At one point, we became cordial, and he showed interest in going into business with me, as at that time, he finally showed me some respect. As I was not interested based on our listening differences, he listened to the gear, and I, listened to the music. We spoke on the phone discussing his future, and I wished him luck with much success. I continue to wish him success, as his mission was exactly what the outcome has been. I have not followed him with his YT thing, but admittedly, he has made a name for himself with the ultra-high end. I give him credit, as his hard work and dedication has paid off, for not just him, but his family as well. MrD. |
From my limited understanding of his business model he bought most gear and received some discounts. Although I’m told he received bigger discounts than most of "normal" audiogoners. He then sold off the equipment after listening/reviewing the gear and made some nice profits along the way. I bet now he opens a true hi-end store but he will work out of his home, as most have theorized, in Texas. Time will tell. |
Interesting. He must go through a fair amount of equipment to support a channel. I'll have to take a look. HR, given the size of the guy, that's sort of humorous. I can see a new employee during orientation.. Jay: "..and that's pretty much how we do things around here.." New Employee: "...(gulp)..ah, OK.."
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@nogaps, as fas as I know Jay purchases all of the gear he discusses, no one sends him equipment to review. You are correct that he is not a techno, he worked in HR for some company prior to leaving that job for full-time doing his current thing. His opinions (and he is clear that this is what he offers) are based on his prior experience owning a lot of equipment and his listening to that equipment. He has a lot of equipment/experience, but in the end its his opinions based on his experience that he offers. |
I never heard of the guy previous to this thread. I don’t wander around, mentally or in any other way, beyond the occasional audio show, in ultra-high end audio. After the comments above I was curious(disclosure, I’m building a set of GR speakers at the moment) about who/what Jay’s Audio was, so I watched both videos of his visit to Danny’s place. (first time I ever saw the guy) Jay didn’t strike as technically very well grounded. His reaction to the solar array and how it’s used, technically pretty basic stuff, was sheer amazement. Danny had to explain the concepts of it to him a few times. His response to Danny running most of his system off the grid on batteries was, as the Brits say, gobsmacked again. His response to Danny tweaking his system based on a response curve, sort of deer in the headlights. The way he talks about systems and listening..he strikes me as more a (somewhat skilled) casual observer of what he’s seeing/hearing than someone who’s inside the industry for a living to some extent, or entirely..I don’t know the guy. Jay seems like a nice guy and no doubt would be fun to have a beer with, but, having only seen him on the 2 videos, I would never guess that he runs a youtube channel reviewing ultra high end audio equipment. Presumably, high end companies are putting trust in this guy’s opinions enough to send him equipment. They must value his insights and yet, to me, he seemed uncomfortable on camera discussing audio topics. Odd. As for his thoughts on Danny’s system, It didn’t appear that he knew what to say. I would have expected some sort of critical, technical assessment. He didn’t say much of anything. Only guessing on my part, but, after living the equipment world he’s in, perhaps he was lost for words that an entire system could be assembled and sound (very) good for the cost of, say, a $15K turntable. Jay struck me as a decent guy..I’ll have to look at a few of his past videos. I’ve been on the planet for quite a few decades now and have met many people, from billionaires to street people, over the years. Maybe I’m missing something. |
I had the opportunity to meet Jay at a speaker launch event. Not only did he spend time with me but he took a special interest in hearing what my 16 year old son had to say about music and equipment which really showed me the depth of his character and interest in general to audio. Additionally, I have used Jay as a reference for a couple of purchases and in that time got more direct “straight talk” that not only saved me money but valuable time. I’m a BIG FAN and can’t wait to see what he conquers next because the things he uncovers and discusses will help all of us. The very best of success to Jay 2.0. |
