Gato Audio DIA-400S comes close at about $5k with the network module upgrade. Only missing the built in phono preamp built in. Don't personally own one but have heard good things and been eyeing one for a while now.
Help me find my ideal Stereo Integrated Amp
Hi all. Do you know of a Stereo Integrated Amps with these features?
1) $10,000 or less
2) DAC
3) Streamer
4) Phonostage
5) XLR connections (does not have to be truly balanced)
6) 200 Watts at 8 ohms/400 Watts at 8 ohms
7) Optical/Coaxial/HDMI digital inputs
Thank you in advanced for your help.
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WTH do people continue to make recommendations that do not hit required targets? |
Used Simaudio 700 V2: 175 quality watts. https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650067171-simaudio-moon-evolution-700i-v2-integrated-amplifier/ |
https://www.javahifi.com/review-product/integrated-amp-double https://www.javahifi.com/review-product/integrated-amp-single I have the single shot integrated and it's beautiful. It doesn't have the streamer but everything else and sounds wonderful too. Even the headphones amp is wonderful. |
@freediver Almost weekly I read posts and shake my head. People ask specific questions with definitive parameters and there are always people who suggest items not within those parameters and sometimes way outside of them.
IDK if they don't really read the OP or just do what they want regardless of the info given. |
@roadcykler it looks to me like it's 50/50 right down the middle between the non readers & the IDGAF crowd hahahahaaa!You really can't fix stupid or lazy! |
@freediver +1 |
1: Audition the Devialet Expert 220 Pro listing at $10k. It has all you’re looking for in a sleek Class D design. All will have different SQ characteristics. All have more than adequate power to drive almost any speaker. Audition a must. Good luck. |
I’ve got a spare NAD Masters M33. It’s a great integrated amp. The sound is super fast, clear, detailed, and with Dirac Live (upgraded to full version) the control to shape the sound and accommodate room issues is amazing. It is less than one year old. PM me if you are interested. I could set it up in my rig so you can listen and play with it. Another possibility for your consideration would be the Krell K300i. in your price range, you have lots of options. Happy Hunting! |
@freediver You are correct the Hegel H600 has an MSRP of $12,500. Are you the guy that paid the full price that one time? 🤣 As for not having a phono stage, my thought was if you're not caring about the quality of the phono, it could be added for a couple hundred and still be within the 10K budget. Anyone interested in a higher end vinyl set up would most likely be looking at a stand alone phono stage? So IMHO, someone looking at spending $10K, should consider the H600. |
McIntosh MA9000, It has a photo stage dac but no streamer Cost of 11K new, But you can find them use for 9K or a little less You could buy a blue node streamer, all for under 10k I happen to have a McIntosh MA9000 with an upgraded dac (D2) 😁, sitting in my closet, I upgraded to separates. Been wanting to sell it.
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all of this recommended equipment is so far out of my price range I can offer little guidance in that range...its totally beyond my experience. But as a point of reference, I have a TA-1 sold by emotiva that I really love. Its an integrated dac/pre amp with sub output and rca outputs to drive bigger amps if desired, but honestly it sounds wonderful thru the built in amplifier. Will it drive inefficient speakers to ear splitting levels? No, but it will drive them to reasonably loud and satisfying levels. It comes with a decent FM tuner and coaxial/optical inputs and a phono input as well and serves me nicely in an office system. If others are looking for a solution for that kind of environment, you'd be hard pressed to find something better at its price and probably at twice the price. I think this is currently offered at $499.00. |
Parasound Halo Hint6 doesn't include a streamer or HDMI input, and is a little below your requested power range. However, it does include a lot of things you didn't mention, but might find useful. It's also $3999 new, which leaves you a bit of cash for a streamer. Preamp and DAC Features
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Yes I agree I used Macintosh MA 12000 or a used MA9000 350 what's per channel for the 12000, 300 Watts for the MA 9000 Both have equalizers and both have a nice warm sound And sound amazing. The build quality is great. Built-in dac, ( mine is upgraded to the D2) I only used mine for 12 to 14 months. ( Willing to sell). You can't go wrong with McIntosh. Hit me up. I'll send you photos 😁 |
@livinon2wheels you are not alone. my budget is 100s of dollars. (I give away my disposable money to various causes, which serves my children better than an expensive piece of paperweight in my living room) I just come here to daydream. I think anything over 3K for a component is wild.
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@grislybutter - partly my reason for being here is to see what reasonable upgrade paths are and how to get more out of what i have. Also to see what’s available that has solid construction and reliability with decent performance. Im replacing most of my equipment and am not up to date on what is good now. Huge learning curve because i loved what i had before and most of that is no longer available. Modern day equivalents to what I had are hard to find. I cant assess equipment i cannot touch and hear, and bricks and mortar audio stores are scarce. It’s a quandry |
@livinon2wheels If you know where you want to be and you invest the time, you will get there. It sounds like you know what you are doing - I don’t, I keep changing my system, I keep shrinking my budget by buying high and selling low and the sound is getting worse. But hopefully I learn something and it will get better |
I think a lot of people here have been very successful and are retired and have a lot of time and money to spend and are one or two zeros ahead of me. But it's not a competition, it's just as easy to make improvements to my simple system from 2 zeros less as it is for very high end systems. |
I'm not "well heeled" but I like to spend money on tangible things that give me years, sometimes decades of enjoyment. I'm not one to hop on a plane and go somewhere , I would rather have something lasting. Can't think of anything better than something like a MA9000 or 12000. Those are great amps. A little beyond my means but worth it if you can afford it. I buy used and new if I can and will almost always be selling what's displaced. I'd rather save for a year or two than compromise. I will usually stretch my budget to avoid buyer's remorse . Buyer's remorse is almost always due to lateral moves. If you avoid those you save in the end from not constantly rotating gear.
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I had a Gryphon DIablo 300 that sounded amazing. You can find them occasionally here with the phono-stage module in your price range used. I did upgrade from there and sold mine for about $9500. I did compare it to a lot of other integrated amps - McIntosh - Hagel - Acuphase - Luxman - Moon. The only amp that sounded better to me was an Audio Research amp that I bought in the end. The Gryphon was tight - iron gripped - nuanced with a LOT of power..... I was driving a pair of Sonus Faber Serafino's at the time.
Good Luck...! |