Love the Beatles but @thecarpathian"Hey Jude" brings back memories of my nephew who as a first child of one sister and brother in law was always 'the star of the show', every holiday the lights go up, entire family has to put up with little sh@@ singing this terrible, repetitive drivel, gag me with a fork.
Wonder how often associating some negative experience to a particular song or artist leads to our dislike? I have no doubt some of my aversion to early Bruce due to cult like following. I have general aversion to all artists/performers placed on pedestals, can't relate to the psychology of 'cults of personality." I actually admire Dylan's detachment/ambivalence towards his cult, wider perspectives often missing in those placed on pedestals.
Well now, I can certainly sleep better now knowing that you do not HATE the Beatles. Personally, I couldn't care less about anything you think about anything.
@spin4cards- I love the Beatles but I totally agree about The Long and Winding Road, especially the version wrecked by Phil Spector's insipid orchestration. It would have been fine with me if they'd never released that 'Let It Be' album. They really missed George Martin.
Well now, I can certainly sleep better now knowing that you do not HATE the Beatles. Personally, I couldn't care less about anything you think about anything.
You are simply a word that rhymes with PONY.
@spin4cards, I know that you are just saying that because I turned down your PM request in which you said that you wanted to carry my jock strap.
I can't listen to today's girlies screeching at the top of their lungs trying but not reaching the highest notes without sounding like nails on a blackboard with a sameness to everything. Pop music on the radio is just irritating and will be soon forgotten.
Someone mentioned Sinatra, one of the greatest untrained performers who is still played today and loved by many. The crap I mentioned above won't be remembered by next week.
Hey now, I made some good money selling Bose 901's, 601's, 501's and 301's back in the 80's at a company called Sounds Great! They did, however, sound pretty awful to me. Our best demo record to sell them was "Ride like the Wind" by Christopher Cross. That song made all of our speakers sound good at the time.
By the way, I recently bought a pair of 601's and 301's at an auction for $10.00 a pair. I know, I overpaid.
Well now, I can certainly sleep better now knowing that you do not HATE the Beatles. Personally, I couldn't care less about anything you think about anything.
It was just an old farm house auction out in the boonies. They were stored in a big barn with tons of stuff. Nobody there had a clue about equipment. I also bought several turntables, cd players etc. for $5.00 each. I'll be having some garage sales in the spring or summer and probably double my money! LOL
Swift and Joanna Newsom seem to be the youngest artist referenced in this entire thread. And outside of the general and myopic references to rap and "hippity hop" and Country, no one seems to have mentioned any thing made this century. Which speaks to a lot of the narrow musical tolerances of aging audiophiles.
Someone did mention the Violent Femmes and I can kind of agree insofar as their song Blister in the Sun I think remains my least favorite song of all time. Ironically one of the Bands I'm in has decided to cover that song and now I've got to play it just about every single night. As Morpheus said, fate is not without a sense of irony.
Queen, Supertramp, Journey, Foreigner, Van Halen, The Cars and REO Speedwagon were some popular bands from my high school and college years that I could never get into.
Did you pick up any hillbilly LPs? I know Country and Bluegrass has taken a hammering on here.
l bet ‘American Pickers’ would have had a ‘field day’ (English slang for an opportunity for success at the expense of others)
The show with Mike Wolfe and Frank Fritz (R.I.P) is a popular off peak daytime show in the UK
All bands are subject to criticism, no comment is blasphemous on a music topic. The Fab Four are not the end all, even though they are the original boy band singing bubble gum pop music for the most part.
This thread is calling out a bunch of bands…why not them too?
For me….Their music has meant nothing to my musical journey. From day one I always thought they were just ok, great song writers but singers and musicians, there are tons more appealing.
boy band singing bubble gum pop music for the most part
I couldn't disagree more. And it's fine, we don't need to fall for the same music.
But, they were so talented, even Ringo, that it's just missing the point.
To me, George and Paul are in the top 5 of singer-songwriter talents. These guys in their 20s innovated like no one else ever since. Their influence pretty much matches Mozart's and Beethoven's contribution to humanity.
And Paul and George produces albums post Beatles that are timeless and up there.
The Beatles……Just a logical observation, not agreeing one way or the other.
One of the only groups throughout history that can be identified by most people just by hearing their four first names. I would go further and say that in most conversations, mentioning the name ‘Ringo’ would conjure up a Beatles connection.
Your nephew memories reminded me of a local couple who, (going back some decades now) fancied their 8-9 year old son a mini Neil Diamond impersonator. They’d take him to the mall, local fairs and events and, dressed in a small sparkly jumpsuit, he would scream/screech Neil Diamond songs, while mimicking his signature gestures. All the while the kid was caterwauling, his parents were beaming like he was the greatest thing since Elvis, oblivious to how painfully bad the kid was. To this day, I can’t hear a Neil Diamond song without thinking about that kid. I bet the poor guy is still in therapy.
”Bruce Springsteen. He can't sing and he can't play guitar either. I know, I know everyone loves him. I can't even consider him as a vocalist. Horrible.”
+1 here. Never understood how he is famous.
I like plenty of “bad” (talking voice/tone) singers who can emote wonderfully or have clever songs — Dylan and W Nelson for example — but Springsteen has zero real emotion and is just not clever. Just awful.
…..’’they (The Beatles) were the original boy band’’
My logic from me and intending no opinion, good or bad…..
The term ‘boy band’ did not originate until the 1980s.
The majority of early boy bands were put together by music moguls to cash in on teenage girls hero worship.
Most boy bands (and l deliberately do not mention by name to impart a negative) could not write their own material.
Except for maybe one or two members of a four or five piece ‘boy band’ not all could play a musical instrument when formed.
Boy Bands were designed to have a good cross section of looks to capture a loyal following and be able to dance and sing.
If any members could play…..their instruments were normally dubbed by session musicians on their early releases.
No The Beatles were never a boy band. I never observed them dancing while trying to play their instruments. John, Paul, George and Ringo could hardly be described as boys. They were all far older than the 1980s boy bands that were assembled by grand ‘puppet masters’ and by today’s standards, the TV ‘talent’ shows.
@davetheoilguy+1 here. Never understood how he is famous.
He was a great performer with alot of energy into his performance. His guitar was mostly used as a prop to sell the image.
The selling point was his message was to an audience of mostly middle to lower class. The dreads of factory work, hate the man/boss. Living on the back streets. Life is unfair living in America. He doesn't like it here. No where to run, no where to go. Yet he climbed up their backs to become a billionaire. How ironic!
One of the most misinterpreted songs is 'Born in the USA'. It's NOT about Patriotism and how great the USA is. It was a tribute and a statement about the Vietnam era and the sad plight of the average American Vietnam veteran. Antiestablishment is his message.
HOWEVER … That is not what the average American hears. From the mountains to the prairies and from sea to shining sea, inside every redneck bar and at almost any 4th of July celebration, you can hear the voices of every red-blooded, flag waving, patriotic American belting out, proudly and forcefully – as if it were the true national anthem of a unified nation – “BORN IN THE USA! I WAS… BORN IN THE USA!” To them, this song represent all the bad-assery and freedom American could ever be.
It's not what everyone thinks it is. Being born in the USA is a BAD thing. That is his real message.
The Fab Four are not the end all, even though they are the original boy band singing bubble gum pop music for the most part.
This thread is calling out a bunch of bands…why not them too?
I think Springsteen filled a niche, maybe he was lucky, maybe he is a genius. Everyone loves an guy who is modest, laid back, can fix the sink, has a few original thoughts and a big-city polish and small town charm.
I never once intentionally listened to him, I don't get his music either, but it does not annoy me like modern country or mindless semi-automated pop does.
"From the mountains to the prairies and from sea to shining sea, inside every redneck bar and at almost any 4th of July celebration, you can hear the voices of every red-blooded, flag waving, patriotic American belting out, proudly and forcefully – as if it were the true national anthem of a unified nation – “BORN IN THE USA! I WAS… BORN IN THE USA!” To them, this song represent all the bad-assery and freedom American could ever be. It's not what everyone thinks it is. Being born in the USA is a BAD thing. That is his real message."
I've been to plenty of redneck bars and plenty of 4th of July celebrations and can't say I've ever experienced such phenomena. My limited knowledge of him was from the Army, and he was universally despised by my fellow soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, for reasons unknown to me, but maybe political reasons, from your post.
I can't say I've ever given it any thought, as I couldn't take listening to his music long enough to form an opinion as to meaning.
FWIW, most of my combat unit (and all combat units, really) consisted of rural whites and upper class suburban kids. Contrary to popular belief, it's a very educated and disciplined group, so I'm not sure that could be classified as "red neck." Certainly not coastal, if that is the meaning of redneck.
I assumed it was because he sucked as a singer and every song sounded exactly the same, which is what I heard, and why I disliked him.
Clearly, you know what you mean by that, but it’s not at all evident to me, especially since you pointedly decline to mention what your baseline is for more accomplished guitar playing. I guess you don’t actually want to discuss this. OK with me but then, why bring it up to begin with?
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