Who still listens to their First Generation Cd Players?


I still like the sound of those early cd players except early problematic sonys
vinny55

Way back when, I bought a Sony CD-1. I didn't want to like it at all, but it sounded just fine to me. I was surprised. Been through a few since then, and am stubbornly holding on to an older Cayin CD22 with tubed output. Whatever it does right, I simply cannot beat it. But now days, it's glitchy and I pray it doesn't die.

Still using a stock Philips CD-80, a heavily modified Magnavox CDB-650 by Euphonic Technology, a stock Magnavox CDB-650 and a later Resolution Audio CD-50, all sound very nice and so far working great.

Still playing Philips CD300 and CD303 (CDM0 and CDM1) and two verticals: Dual CD120 (more advanced and known under at least 8 different brand names) and somewhat simplified but better designed JVC XL-V1. All of them still doing well but all need warming up time to make their minds up and "come back" to play (perfectly so far).

A CDB 460 modified be Van Alstine to the FET Three model is still plugging along quite fine here. To me, it is ridiculously good sounding. If it had a remote control, the PS Audio 2 box setup would be gone. It is not better than the PS Audio, yet it is >95% as good.
Spinning CDs is still my preferred medium but I have constantly upgraded what I play them on. My original 1987 Sony is long gone along with my Denon 5 disc changer from the early 90s. In my main two channel system I use separate components, a CD transport with no onboard DAC (Audiolab CDT 6000) connected to a standalone DAC (Denafrips Pontus II).  The SQ improvement has been tremendous and has breathed new life into my collection of over 2.5k CDs. I still have a 20 year old Rotel 5 disc changer which I use exclusively for HDCD playback. I also have an Oppo Blu-Ray player in my HT system which I use for SACD playback.  Unfortunately, SACD and HDCD compatible players are now extremely hard to come by and I dread the day when these old units breathe their last.
Had a Onkyo top of the line and it died...had it for like 8 years ,I couldn't get it repaired...
Just picked up a Pioneer pd-4050 at a local garage sale.
Very very clean and obviously well looked after. 1987 vintage.
Hooked it up via single ended rca as this only option and it sounds pretty darn good for $20!.
Very detailed and solid, nice presentation all round, definitely not edgy or harsh, except with cds recorded that way of course!
I think its a keeper
@niodari never heard of Raymio before. How good is the analog sound of this particular Dac

@nonoise, the CD-80 was built like a tank, wasn’t it? Made everything else seem like a toy. That is, until I got an Esoteric ;-).
I wish I still had my Philips CD-80. I had it modded by Stan Warren and can't, for the life of me, remember why I gave it away.

All the best,
Nonoise
And I can avoid use of LPs as Raymio DAC settles the problem with analog interpretation.

My main music source remain CD players (and  rarely I use my Yamaha K-850 cassette deck - some cassettes give good dynamics). CD players I use are (about 20-years old) Krell CAD 300, Yamaha CDS2000 and sometimes Arcam  CD 73. Krell has  the oldest burr-brown dac which gives a reasonably good uncolored reproduction (unlike newer ess ones). But I use Krell basically as a transport with Raymio DAP 777, that somehow compensates inaccuracies in the interpretation of digital signal. I think I can accept the resultant analog sound and not worry too much about the accuracy any more. So I intent to continue to use CD source. Streaming is not good for me, its like driving a car with an automatic transmission vs manual one.

Another vote for the early Phillips gear .... mine an 880 (just below the 960 but still about $1300 back in the day).  Heavy as a concrete block, absolutely three-dimensional sound (although premature fade-to-black,as the machine had rising non-linearity below -90db as the early chipsets all did).  Mine is not operating currently but I soon hope to have it repaired and then it will go into the system alongside my Oppo 105.  I A/B'd it back in 1989 vs Sony's top model, and it beat the pants off of it.
I currently listen to most of my digital from a server which has my ~ CDs ripped in FLAC and easily accessible, although in my main system I do have an Emotiva ERC-3 in the main system for playing discs.

But I do have a unit that has been excellent over the years, an Arcam Delta 70 with a very rugged Phillips transport, built like a battleship and still fully functional after an almost 30 year span - not many early players have lasted like that.  Had a Black Box DA converter for awhile, then a Classe and currently a Hegel, and used the Arcam  with the first tow very successfully.
I'm still using my 20 year old Pioneer Elite 300 disc changers [I added a second one about 10 years ago], and love them.  I've tried some higher end single players, but they didn't sound any better to my ears.  Even if they did, the ability to store 600 CD's and access them all via one remote is worth any slight sound difference I might notice.  The discs are rarely touched, so they stay clean and mint.  They are remarkable machines, they never miss a beat and have never given me one bit of trouble.  Pretty amazing for a machine with the complex workings of a 300 disc changer.  The Sony ES line is very similar to the Elite players, and they can be had in 400 disc versions. I don't know if one is superior to the other, but I can't imagine switching from the Pioneer Elites.
I must have owned 30-40 CD players, still own 10. The one I keep coming back to is a Philips CD960. I bought one new, sold it. Bought another mint one, sold it. And now I am on my 3rd. I am NOT selling it. I have never been able to find a CD player that sounds better.  I have owned Oppo 95, 105, Rega Apollo, top of the line Pioneer Elite universal DVD, top of the line Marantz SACD, Cambridge, Onkyo 7030, many Sonys etc. And the only other CD player I like out of those is my Tascam CD200. I just this week got a Nakamichi CDC-3A and quite like it. It turns out I am a fan of the Philips TDA1541A chip.
I have 4 quality CD players, 3 very new, but I still listen to my old Denon DCD-1500, which is on it's 3rd laser pickup (I was a Denon service center during the 1980's).  It's like an old friend!
Hmmm I have a Pioneer PD65 that has about one whole hour on it. I was going to sell it, but maybe I should keep it?
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I'm still in love with my California Audio Labs Icon (1st gen) that I purchased new. Keep the gremlins at bay with a VPI brick sitting over the transport. (no kidding) Also let it "read" the disc for a few seconds before hitting the play button.

Don't know what I'd do without it.

I find that certain early CDs released in the early and mid 80s that were reported to sound harsh and strident (presumably because the process was so young) actually sound very good, and not harsh and strident. They sounded harsh and strident to some people for a number of reasons including, but not limited to, (1) the CDs were not treated, (2) the CD players were not treated, e.g. isolated, and (3) the improvement over the years of playback systems and room acoustics generally. Exhibit A - the first CD issue of Solti’s The Ring in 1984.
I find the tone from a rotel and many other retro cda's is pure.
A lot of the new type cd/dvd...sound clinical and synthetic to me, usually far to much treble.
Barring the new really expensive units like Arcam, Cambridge, HK and such.
So for me i will stick with the older ones, especially the units using the Philips CDM 9/65'S and such.
44CT357 Cape Town SA.
I listened in 1983 to the first CD player imported for sale here in the USA: a Hitachi vertical-loader. I was far from impressed! It was at a dealer's store in CT. In fact, I waited until 1992 before buying my first player - a Technics Bitstream. The first few generations never sounded good to me!
Can't remember the model numbers. The first player was a Sylvania, the next, a Magnavox. Not the one everybody was doing the Frankenstein mods on though. In the Mid 90's, I had a Marantz CD-63 SE. Absolutely loved that player at the time. I think it sold for $500.
 @mr_m which make and models? I listened to a Marantz 73. The sound was jaw dropping awesome. Mind you played thru a luxman amp and tannoys. The 73 is an early 80s model
I never kept my first gen CD players, but what I remember of them, they were "gawd-awful." IMO
@vinny55 No, my Pioneer sounds better than the OPPO. I bought the OPPO for UHD visual purposes,
Curious about what is so special on the Magnavox mdv2100 as you can pick them up on eBay for $10!
Pioneer F404 25 file disk changer uses 1-bit DLC and so is Carver MV5. They have best DACs ever built.
I listen primarily to a Sony Walkman CD Player. Please, no snarky emails. I have quite a few to choose from. Headphones are stripped down Grado SR-60s. Those Grado ear pads are just plain terrible. What were they thinking? The Walkman sounds surprisingly good and is up on a 2 Hz iso stand, basically an advanced very high Mass/Springs Woody the Woodpecker stand. Batteries and Headphone plugs are treated with the latest contact enhancer.
@michaelgreenaudio.  None of your links here or on your site work on my iPad.  Frustrating. 
Of all my 'oldies' the one I most regret losing is my Mission DAD7000.  Basically a modded ol' skool Magnavox, she was sweet!
Still using my Sony 10-disk changer from 1987. Paid $725 from Rogersound audio in the valley (good money in those days). Replaced the Laser once but the thing keeps chugging along. Very sophisticated programming allowed via remote or buttons on the unit.

My first player was a Yamaha I think. Gone with the wind...
Still holding on to an old(er) JVC players mostly for its ability to que tracks forward and backward. All newer players only allow moving to the next/previous track. Feeding it into a Schiit Modi Multibit.

Hi Vinny

check it out

http://tuneland.forumotion.com/t332-tuning-cdp-s#6367

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

My Meridian (modification of a first generation PhilippS) died a long time ago. 

Hi Vinny

I still listen to some of the vintage CDPs. I never was able to get my ears around the HEA audiophile players. My reference now is a player I've been collecting ever since I first tuned it. It's a Magnavox MDV2100 (and it's family members). I've mentioned before up here about it's cult following, and since then I've had 10 or so folks ask me more about it and where can they get one. It's a Tuning Monster!

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

@amg56 why all this craze for oppo anyways? I own 5 14bit players and few 16 bit
my previous post got messed up somehow. My BDP-LX52 was bought in 2012 and is my go to for silver disc playing.
My first player was a 1985 Hitachi. It got superseded with a Pioneer BDP-52 in the mid which is my CD for music playing. It sounds better than the OPPO-205 I bought recently.