So I got the tubes in the mail today. Looks like things still work and it took 23 days.
Think Its Possible To Order Tubes From the Ukraine?
Having a set of tube amps being shipped to me this week. Its a pair of Audio Mirror Reflections monoblocks that use the 6C33C tubes. The amps come with one set of outputs and a pair of spares. I was thinking of ordering a backup set of tubes. After looking at the tube sites, the majority of them are Russian sellers, and that is not going to work due to current events. However, there are sellers from the Ukraine of this tube. Do you think a person can order from them and have a good chance of receiving their package?
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Jesus. I don't care about what your opinion is of whatever state, or the country in general. All I did was ask a question about ordering a set of tubes for an amp. I don't CARE what you think about wherever you do, do not, or used to live. Give it a rest. I did get a response back from a Ukraine seller that he is able to mail tubes. It's on Ebay so I have buyer protections. I will give the seller a chance, and a decent amount of time for the postal system to deliver. As an update, the amp arrived but must have taken a shock during shipping. I have an output tube socket that is showing a fault. So its going back to Vladamir for repair, and he is doing that gratis. But there are updated resistors and wiring available for this amp, so I am sending the second one along too so both amps can get the latest updates and a clean bill of health. These are not going to be my primary amps, so the wait is no big deal. Have to say these 6c33c tubes are beastly. The amp came with blue glass Sophia 6SN7 and Sophia 6SL7, both are lovely looking tubes. Always liked the Sophia products as I used to own their 300B Meshplates. But give it a rest, I don't care what you think about the US and where you live. |
@twoleftears , Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice would say. Seems like someone has an inside line that circumvents Tammy. I always wondered why some were so quickly taken down while the patently offensive ones would stay up for days. All the best, |
@nonoise I emailed Tammy about one of my posts this morning. She restored it and told me she had no idea why it was taken down. Which begs the question of who took it down. Hmm. |
@atmasphere No, it appears it’s impossible to have an audio discussion without politics. The same thing happens in the Decware forum threads too. What also seems impossible is leaving character judgements aside. Civility and decency appear to be rare commodities in a society with too much time on their hands... Thank you COVID. |
All violence in all ancient societies were banned by the distribution rules attributing a taboo prohibition for some group activities for a peculiar group but reinforced and allowed for and by some other group... Then all causes of violence were controlled and heavily channelled... Rene Girard already demonstrated that all human society is explanable by the mechanism of canalization of violence... This is so in traditional societies... And this is so after with the emergence of monotheistic religions in a more diluted way but in a more conscious way...... With the industrial era and especially after world war 2 after the financial era, which replaced the industrial era inherited from the 19 century, the mechanism of debt and interest rates in financial engineering had replaced taboo distribution and religion in society control... The mathematical formula behind derivative products even deserve a Nobel prize to the economist who create it.... What this means? It means that the financial banks system and central bank system of fiat money have sacralized the debt mechanism in an iron trellis , this is the moloch sacrificial mechanism, by which all humanity is sacrificed for and by money to those anonymus stateless unelected corporate people who control it... Anthropological studies and paleo economic studies demontrated not so long ago, that the religious taboo about debt and interest rate in biblical societies, which inherited it from his Mesopotamian imperialist origin demonstrated that each ruler must set all debts to zero for the sake of the creativity and renewal of all the soiciety... The Rosetta stone in three language which Champollion use to understand Egyptian language is a tablet about universal debt forgiveness... If not, without this regular debt forgiveness, the society will die by suicide under debts accumulation...Then the taboo about debt and the interest rate comes not from religious reason first like we were told 50 years ago, but from the sound and sane economic experience of these ancient ruler kings... All empires who did not learned this lesson were doom...Money creation must be owned by the king for benefit of all, or in our modern society by the elected one for all, never by private interest.... Now think about the dying american country under the weight of his anonymus empire, enslaved and enslaving all with his neo liberal dogma ? The next solution who point his head already is deemed to be a "new world order", a transhumanist society of total control, where the debt mechanism is replaced by the hacking and control of the brain and body imitating and surpassing Chinese absolute social totalitarian control... It is where we are.... And at a crux on the road....
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@twoleftears , I think it may be that the one who's the most obnoxious, profane and insane resides in the same state that this site operates out of. It could be a kindred spirit kind of thing. All the best, |
There’s the mistake in your state’s logic. It is not humane to let people sink into the degradation of drug addiction and live on the streets, stealing to support their habits from honest people who have put their lives into their businesses. Nor is it humane to let the old and weak become victims of crime, afraid to leave their houses. Think about the families of the two cops just killed by the "compassion" for violent criminals shown by LA DA Macron. That's not compassion. It's lack of common sense. |
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@teo_audio I didn't think any of your nonsense was directed at me. Just pointing out that your comments don't stand you in good stead. The OP was about getting tubes from Ukraine and the simple fact is yes you can get them. IMO its best to do so before they get all smashed and when making a purchase, do so with the understanding that such might happen. Is it so hard to simply have that be a yes or no question without some messed up political BS?? |
Some clearly have very low standards or you are one of the rich elite white minorities not effected by the liberal policies that have destroyed the poor minority majority. Proud of small business having to close because of the rampant crime and lack of law enforcement. Proud of the city being over run with homelessness and people getting high in public. Proud of the homeless junkies taking a dookie in the street and camping in your front yard. You must live in a gated community like the rest of liberals and have private security. Or you are a Pelosi. You and Soros made it now sleep in it. Many complaints about Regan closing the state hospitals when he was governor of California and that was how long ago? How many Democrats have been governor since then and have done nothing? Inmates are running the asylum in your cesspool state that has some very nice people that will hopefully become woke. Woke to the fact that you are doing nothing for them with defunding the police, not enforcing the law. It has begun with the recall of the Soros supported DA’s. Blacks and Hispanics are leaving the DNC in droves and companies are fleeing your state. Proud of a cesspool, great! |
@soix Thank you and my son has my old system so yes lots of music here and it is lovely here on the gulf. |
@jerryg123 I’m really sorry to hear about your health issues and hope you have access to some kind of decent audio system there so music can continue to feed your soul and help speed your recovery! |
@soix been there done that. Before my stroke I was in the cesspool of LA and SF every 6 weeks. Love San Diego though. I have lived in Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming. I am convalescing at my sons home in Texas S Padre Island after my stroke and surgery. BTW California is not the largest state in the Union. Is California or Texas Bigger? Texas is bigger than California, making it the largest state of the 48 contiguous states, but measured by population, the rankings are reversed. California is the most populous state with 39,776,830 residents, according to 2017 U.S. Census estimates, while Texas had a population of 28,704,330.Oct 5, 2019 You can take,California. |
@jerryg123 What state are you from? Sure California has its problems being the largest state in the union, but they still manage to pay more into the Federal government than they take in unlike the vast majority of government money-sucking states. And California is a beautiful state — maybe go see it sometime so you actually know what you’re talking about. |
@dekay that's my point. Why on earth pay these prices when they won't last. Prices will come vack to earth long before op needs to buy. I worry that the forest may disappear among the trees. |
Yes, there's lots of homeless people who come from other parts of the country for the weather and looking for a handout. Too bad the states where they came from harassed them and/or made it illegal to be homeless. You see, we happen to be more humane, to a fault, which is our downfall, but unlike the red states, we're working on it. We don't punish the homeless. I hate seeing it as well but I'm not going to shoot them or set them on fire, like some do in other states. As for heading in the direction of a 3rd world country, that applies to all of America, as long as inequality is allowed to grow and unregulated capitalism is favored by the aristocrats, who'd love to turn this place into Russia Lite: less democracy, more corruption. All the best, |
Why the hell does everything have to be a conspiracy theory with you? Ralph benefits not one iota by sharing he’s been able to successfully get tubes from Ukraine. Give it a rest already!!!
I know Ukraine is now a free and democratic society who is our ally and aspiring to become part of NATO, and I know Russia is the exact opposite of all those things. Please don’t belittle Ukraine by implying they’re like Russia, especially as they’re laying down their lives by the hundreds of thousands and watching parts of their country be completely annihilated to protect and maintain their freedom and to NOT become like Russia. Seriously, what’s wrong with you?
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Yes, under the Soviet style system, Ukraine was quite corrupt. It would be naive to think that today all corruption has vanished. But they are trying. And they are succeeding, albeit slowly. You can't turn it around overnight. It's a big ship to steer. So, yes. Some of us do know a bit about both countries and are not looking at it in black and white. There is always grey.
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Let Teo speak. He'got some good points even if often exaggerated. Ukraine is a very corrupt country, war or not. Most of you guys know nothing about that place, do you ? Or about Russia, for that matter, which is also a very corrupt country. Anyway, I heard that at least registered mail from Ukraine works so far. I say so far because they are losing the war and might lose the country soon enough. |
Since it seems like there is too much heat in people’s eyes to be balanced about their views (I said seems, not anything else, it could simply be the simplicity of the given written statments, not what people entirely mean), i decided to remove all my posts here, in this thread. Since you took a swipe, Ralph, perhaps because you possibly thought I was taking a swipe at you, I propose that maybe you state your position or purchase or support a hair differently next time so it does not look like it could be virtue signalling. Of course, there is every reason to believe that you support the people of the Ukraine, and with no malice or self interest...but there is the added point... that it does do you good, business wise, to ’support the current thing’, by coming into the thread and telling folks about your situation regarding these particular given tubes. And this is Ken Hotte, the other half of Teo, who sits behind the keyboard, just so there is no error there. I’ll leave it in saying that 20 years from now, for those young enough to still be alive...that there is, via looking into the history of all of these situations..that most of you will feel differently than you do now, on some of the critical aspects of what has formed your opinion and emotions of today. So much so, that I’d say ’count on it’. |
@teo_audio If you were looking for a way to lose credibility, you've certainly found it. Please take your nonsense political BS elsewhere. |
What, in your opinion, are "the steaming piles of propaganda" with regards to the war and atrocities taking place as we post, in Ukraine? What, in your opinion is the truth? Quite interested in hearing it.
You do realize the man was an actor and a comic before being democratically elected, right? It’s called parody. Also, did he cut and run when given the opportunity like the vast majority of world leaders would have? NO. He stayed. He stayed with his country and its citizens. He rallied them to defend their nation. He’s worked tirelessly to get other world leaders to come to Ukraine’s aid. You call him a "so called" leader? He is the consummate leader. He has shown his mettle. He is a genuine hero.
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I personally wouldn't import directly from this area right now, but your mileage may vary. I had to retube a pair of Fourier Systems Panthere monos that use 8 6c33cs per amp. There is a guy in West Milford, NJ known as "the audio misfit" who buys in bulk, tests (so no problems with infant mortality,)and can match pairs, quads or octets if necessary. The guy is a pleasure to deal with. Definitely a little more expensive than ebay, but how many of us are blessed with a tube tester that can test 6c33cs? And who wants to use their amp as a tube tester? |
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