The verdict - Burmester 232 is worth MUCH MUCH MUCH more than its price!!!


My system:

Burmester 232  + Focal Kanta 3s + LTA Aero DAC with upgraded Ray Reserve 6SN tubes+ Wireworld Eclipse 8 cables + Axxess Interconnects

 

Spent in excess of $50,000 and the sound I am getting is priceless! And my system has not even broken in yet. Thanks to all folks on this forum for their invaluable input.

madhusudan_ramaswamy

What improvements did you hear with the Aero DAC over the Wiim?  From your prior thread, are you still of a mind that DACs are relatively low in importance?

@soix Warmer, fuller sound. Bigger soundstage. Room full of luscious sound. The Aero DAC tames the brightness of my Focals perfectly. I lucked out. Somehow all the components compliment each other well. You were making sense when you suggested I upgrade my DAC. The new sound has changed my perspective  on the importance of having a DAC that matches the rest of the components in the system. Thanks for the input.

@soix The upgraded tubes have filled in gaps in the soundstage. Vocals are crystal clear and the sound is definitely warmer.

@soix Feel free to text me your address on Facebook. Will send you a bottle of wine as a thank you gift.

Thanks for the thought but just glad you’re happy and that it all worked out.  When your credit card stops throbbing from all your recent purchases your nice new LTA DAC would give you even more with a better streamer, but you already know that.  It never ends…like herpes. 

Congratulations! High end audio is a great pursuit. I has been incredibly gratifying for the over fifty years I have pursued it. Times like yours are priceless, taking your system to a new level. 

If you create a virtual system, we'll all be able to see your system. The face book link brings up the Burmeister group... I'm pretty sure you did not put together that system... looks like hundreds of thousands. 

Integrated is very pretty. I have a sunbeam toaster and it’s a very pretty chrome toaster. This is a very unique toaster from the early 60s you literally do not have to touch the toaster to get toast. It has an automatic lowering mechanism and you just have to place the toast in the slot and wait for it to rise when done. It has a bimetallic sensor that senses temperature of toast.  No timer purely mechanical it’s a marvel of technology.

The integrated you have is no doubt a marvel of technology. 

@ghdprentice I really did put together the system. Zoom in on the clock in the photo. Today’s date and time are displayed.

One has to join the Burmester facebook group to see your system pics. I don’t think most people are willing to join another group just to be able to see the pics. Better to create a virtual system on audiogon. 

@ghdprentice I am a Derivatives Trader with a graduate degree in Accounting from the Red McCombs Graduate School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin. “Hundreds of thousands” is nothing new to me.

OP,

Cool, So you spent a LOT more than $50K. 

I think you see different things. I am not a member of the group... so I doesn’t let me in. I see a really fancy all Burmeister system. 

Thou is not on Facebook. Try to figure out how to post pics here for all the Audiogon world to see and give you your due aw! 

@daytrader So what? Anyone can join. No big deal, Pretty sure you don’t have to answer any questions to be approved by the admins.

There’s a way of doing things around here. Putting up a link that none of us care to explore. This admin has done an easy enough job that you can create a profile on this site for all of us to enjoy.
there’s enough fraud going on the Internet most of us old timers only go to sites that we’re 100% sure otherwise we don’t wanna see our retirement checks going to some crooks. 

@gkelly People like you get confrontational for no good reason. Speak for yourself when you say “none of us care to explore”. I am a full time trader with limited time and energy. And you think you may be subject to fraud by joining the Facebook Burmester group. What are you smoking? Get your head examined by a good doctor if you’re that paranoid about losing your “retirement checks”.

This is the problem when book-smart people aren't street-smart.

They don't know how to read a room. 

 

@macg19 I will choose book-smart any day if it enables to make 7 figures. Who wants to read rooms when you can buy them? Ha ha. Can’t stop laughing.

I sure hope I ain’t the booksmart one, cause the only book I ever read was Tom Sawyer. The one thing I learned was, if you could convince Becky Thatcher to whitewash your fence, you got to spend a lot more time on the river with your raft. I do enjoy my time with my toes in cool water 💧. 

@madhusudan_ramaswamy no need for any Unpleasantness about viewing your system. If you would like for other people on Audiogon to be able to see what you have put together, and it is certainly a fine system, it’s pretty easy to create a virtual system. Probably 10 or 15 minutes. Some people like to do that, some don’t. It’s cool either way. I suspect your journey may not be finished, that’s true of most of us, so posting your system would be helpful in the event you have other questions, but not a big deal either way. 
 

Enjoy your new system and that the grad school is paying off cuz the laborer is worthy of his hire. Rember bill gates,Steve jobs,Albert all could not sit in class and finish thier degree however they are very successful. I did alot of post grad education including 6 year surgical residency every other night on call and it was brutal on my personal life. However many people that come to Yellowstone National Park  and pet the fuzzy animals have benefited from my grad school training. Don't poke the bear.now I have time to enjoy the music and yes we listen to music in the operating room.

@madhusudan_ramaswamy   Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see anywhere in your posts why exactly the Burmester is worth Much Much More. I have no idea if it is or isn't, but your thread title exclaimed it is so how about some specific context especially given just a few days ago you had another thread going where you questioned if you even made the correct choice purchasing it.

 

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As I sit here  listening to ‘Rambling’ Man’ I have to wonder are we off the rails yet? 

@madhusudan_ramaswamy Your membership on the Gon is very short.

Let a little bit more be known, I visited the Gon for quite a few years prior to being a participating member, have you been a forum observer prior to your pulling the trigger to join?

What was experiences with assembling an audio system prior to the most recent system being used?

Has part of your interest in audio been creating opportunities to experience audio systems / devices beyond the owned system or create different permutations for a assembly within the owned system?

FYI, I have zero experience of the products being discussed within this Thread. 

For the onlooker at the Gon, who is considering a largish budget and who may be expressing an interest in this report.

If a used sale item purchase is not a concern, a fully loaded 232 > Kanta 3 > LDA Aero is able to be acquired without too much effort required to discover sale items, where a combined purchase price is $22K, offering up a saving of $28000 on the main products used in the system being reported on.

If the OP does choose to inform on what was being used in their system and introduced to their system, prior to the latest assembly of devices being reported on.

Using the assessment of the OP only, especially as of yet, an OP who has not revealed much about their experiences had in audio.

There is an opportunity presenting itself, which could serve as an indicator to what a known assembly of devices costing  $22K if bought used, is like as a comparison to another assembly of devices used in a system used by the OP.

As in Audio, experiences are vast, and others who have a above average range of experiencing audio devices will be better grounded to know where diminishing returns on a Products cost to Performance prevails and where synergy has been discovered through adding a device into an assembly of devices.

These extended experiences reported on, which have some which will be resulting in substantial impression being made, are also experiences where costs to achieve such a positive impression are seen to be achievable with a much more realistic outlay of monies within the broader audio community. 

 

If I join the Burmeister Facebook group, then my Facebook feed is going to be full of Burmeister posts. Not something I want. 

Of all social media, facebook unfailingly indicates a man of wealth and refinement.

Integrated is very pretty. I have a sunbeam toaster and it’s a very pretty chrome toaster. This is a very unique toaster from the early 60s you literally do not have to touch the toaster to get toast. It has an automatic lowering mechanism and you just have to place the toast in the slot and wait for it to rise when done. It has a bimetallic sensor that senses temperature of toast.  No timer purely mechanical it’s a marvel of technology.

@emergingsoul 

Brilliant! :)

The integrated [OP has] is no doubt a marvel of technology.

Wait til you see his Bentley!

I would like to say two things.
a. OP’s approach to system building is a kin to a chimpanzee and a typewriter.

b. OP’s responses to members is a kin to Most of the fraud that happens on the Internet. 
At least that is what my impressions are upon this raft as I float down the river.

@madhusudan_ramaswamy 

I'm glad that you're enjoying your new system.  Perhaps, with time and listening to music, some will learn to better appreciate the humanity of others, and become less concerned with ostentatious displays of wealth, which can seem superficially attractive, but have limited lasting value.  I realize that people approach music differently, but I consider music to be an art form that allows humans to appreciate the passage of time, and consequently, realize some of the transient nature of life.  A good stereo system can help bring you closer to the artist's and composer's experiences, or it can just be a status symbol to some, which is just a number and a name on paper.  

I own Burmester and have no interest in the Burmester Facebook thing. Giving OP the benefit of the doubt, maybe he doesn't know any better, although there is never an excuse for being rude. He's decisive.I read, watch, listen and meditate before buying a used record.

He's likely going to need a little more help, because I think if he pays attention, he'll be speaker shopping soon. I hope he enjoys his system, although if I was a seven figure guy I think I would have sprung for separates.

Oh well, its entertaining.

This was obviously posted because without someone to notice how expensive a toy is, consumption can't be conspicuous. An easier way would be to invite friends over, but I'm guessing based on the OP's responses that they are few and far between. You can "buy a room" (super clever turn of phrase that one) but you can't buy real friends as easily.

Congratulations!  Please add your system picture to your profile so all on this site can see under the “virtual systems”.  Enjoy!