PURON RESOLVE creates new options for better sound

@questforhifi I have several of the Puron conditioners and 3 of the swiss digital fuse boxes.  They have had a a very positive impact on my system.  I'm sure you realize there isn't an objective measuring system for these type of products, so I'm not sure what you want. The lack of these devices on the resale market speaks volumes, in my estimation. But, you could do something outrageous and try one.  You can send it back if you don't like it.  

@normb The different metallic combinations in the sluggos make it possible to "tune" your devices.  It is amazing to me the difference between copper, bronze, rhodium and the composite sluggos.  

Dude literally responds with “we stand behind the puron conditioner” over and over…. A completely different product

what does THIS product do and how does it work?

you know, in commodities i bought a lot of shelled pistachios below market price and the quality was fantastic. Was very skeptical but he came though.

the next time? He sent garbage. Got roped in with the first and scammed with the second. He even sent fake batch samples and then disappeared 

you cant keep replying to everything with “well we have the puron conditioner” 

okay congrats? We want to know about resolve. 
even if this is the best product in the history of tweaks, your handling of this thread sucks… and your a terrible salesman. 
how about giving us some info? SOMETHING?

instead of “just stick it wherever in your chain and watch your system transform… trust me bro. Okay but what is it, how does it work?! “Bro we has the puron conditioner”

this might be the worst thread ive ever read on audiogon

Someone help that man. He's choking on snake oil. 

Yeesh…The charlatans are out in full force lately. Have you people no shame? 

@normb 

Incredible reply - I hurt myself laughing at unicorn farts 

Mr. Skeptic - welcome to try for yourself. Just let me know 
 

Just let me know. Pretty sure you know how to find me - but, just in case... verafiaudio@gmail.com

Best wishes - Mark 

@normb 

have to ask the question NOBODY has thought to mention: why use a slug at all?  Just unsolder and BYPASS the actual fuse slot, socket, clips, clamp or solder 

Cause many people don’t want to take the component apart, or know how to solder properly, and/or want to preserve resale value.

Logically and scientifically it makes sense that a thick piece of copper is more efficient than a thin piece of wire designed to add resistance.

No. I have not (yet) tried any of these devices, although the Puron intrigues me, even more so that I have yet to see them popping up in the used ePay or usual used audio component sales sites.

They either work, work well enough to keep, or are so embarrassingly useless they get relegated to the box o’ junk that will one day be sold at the audiophile’s estate sale for pennies on the dollar.

The Swiss Digital Fuse Box came up again in this thread and I - being a skeptic, medical science trained as I am - have to ask the question NOBODY has thought to mention: why use a slug at all?  Just unsolder and BYPASS the actual fuse slot, socket, clips, clamp or solder pads.

Using the SDFB already voids mfr warranty and UL/CPSC laws - IIRC - so what’s the difference?

How should a “SLUG” infused with gold, fairy dust or unicorn farts work any better than JUST the power cable itself into the IEC  socket (and are the prongs in IT gold or fairy-dust infused as well?) then directly into the transformer or whatever circuit its feeding. Inserting anything into a signal pathway reduces its efficiency and introduces “noise” potential.

Not sorry. My eyes are just a little more open today - Leap Day - as I peruse the posts here and around the innerwebs.

This willful suspension of disbelief and skepticism seems to be David Hannum’s maxim writ large.

FWIW. YMMV. Spend it if you got it.

We should have our first Tronch of Resolve in 3 to 4 weeks

Waiting final details so they can go up on the site shortly

Thanks - Mark 

I was referring to the plug in modules , the Furutech  connector type are sonically superior to the cheaper $250 ones for they use far better connectors ,copper is 3 x better conductor then brass much more musical less bright .

@audioman58 

Where are these L I asked yesterday and the response was they are not even out yet.
 

how dare they…off with their heads 

Good Grief 

Welcome to email me at verafiaudio@gmail.com

I'm not going to try to slug it out here. Puron has done really well, and I'm quite sure Resolve will too. 

Label it tweaks etc, does not bother me one bit 

Current Reviews for Puron and SDFB have raised these products to the next level 

Puron here 

https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/swiss-digital-fuse-box/

Fuse Box above 

To me, these products don't cost too much and deliver very real improvements 

We are really proud of both

Thanks - Mark 

Where are these L I asked yesterday and the response was they are not even out yet.

Yes. SNL back in the good old days. 

Yup, the curse of old age, that we can remember how much funnier things were when we could laugh at stupid stuff without worrying about political correctness.

@hilde45

That's why the old SNL skit about floorwax/dessert topping is funny.

Yes. SNL back in the good old days.  

OP, in hindsight:

PURON RESOLVE is a soon-to-be released product from Vera-Fi Audio, LLC.

It works well with PURON plug-in filter, and placement is not limited to a wall or power conditioner receptacle.  As with all Vera-Fi products, it will be offered with a 30 day money-back guarantee.

@lpretiring Oh on the contrary just like to understand where one is coming from when they contradict themselves, found this to quite entertaining. Like most. 

These upgrades would have no doubt been more beneficial on a better system.  

@audio_is_subjective 

Yes, I saw this post the first time you referenced it.

If your concern is why did I have an issue with an early Puron? I spent seven months experimenting with these devices. At that early stage adding another to a specific location improved clarity and focus but was detrimental in soundstage center fill. There were reasons unrelated to the Puron device that I experienced that result.

If your concerned about the discontinuation of the HF MC 0.5's, that would be because while finding them beneficial they also had a affect that I found somewhat unnatural. After a while I found a better option and stopped using the MC 0.5.

I visit this forum to acquire audio knowledge, receive some entertainment, and share the experiences I believe might be helpful to other members of like mindedness.

I find this exchange neither beneficial or entertaining.

I notice that the vast majority of your posts are negative and confrontational.

I see no reason to continue this particular exchange, but congratulations on your one-week membership...you're off to a great start. 

  LP

@lpretiring This is your post? Now and then.

Do these "snake oil!" screamers believe that every potentially innovative non component product that comes to the marketplace is just that?

That would seem to be an absolutely foolish outlook for any audio enthusiast.

lpretiring

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01-06-2024 at 01:42pm 

The doubters of this product needs to audition them in their own environment. I’m pretty sure Mark at Vera-fi offers a satisfaction guarantee testing. Most in our hobby will find the pricing reasonable.

I was very skeptical early on, and even had a negative experience with my second Puron. This was not the fault of the Puron, but in my set up which needed to be sorted out.

Forget about that they are too small or too cheap. I have many now and as I added them, they continued to improve the soundstage size, focus, imaging, just overall increased realism.

For reference I utilize a P.I. audio group Uberbuss for my DAC and transport only and had 3 MC 0.5 that I used for a couple of years. The only place I found to be detrimental with a Puron ironically was directly in the Uberbuss.

This thing treats your entire system at once and is right up there with the best audio purchases I have made.

 

LP

LP

@macg19 

I think the OP’s post was at worst over-hyped, or at best over-enthusiastic.

There's no doubt that it was. I also agree with you that naysaying without experience is worthless.

My point is simply that over-hyping a product which is already liable to provoke skepticism is going to cement a lot of skepticism and prevent people from trying the product. That's why the old SNL skit about floorwax/dessert topping is funny.

And still…no explanation of what they do and most importantly, how they do it. I’m too old to believe in magic. And as stated above, if these mystery boxes “change” the sound, that does not necessarily mean they “improve” the sound. 
 

My humble thoughts. 

@audio_is_subjective 

Not sure exactly what you mean but nothing has changed. I have always been open to new ideas and products as well as components.

If a supplier offers a money back trial period, that makes exploring the potential benefit even more enticing.

I then use my own ears to hopefully and accurately determine if said product brings me closer to the music be it a component or new possible technology.  

   LP

@macg19 Agreed

@macg19 Agreed

@audioman58 Product is not even out. 

@chocaholic Maybe you need try a Puron Filter if your gear is revealing.

@hilde45 If you tried any of Marks products? 

@lpretiring So what changed? 

lpretiring

420 posts

01-06-2024 at 01:42pm 

The doubters of this product needs to audition them in their own environment. I’m pretty sure Mark at Vera-fi offers a satisfaction guarantee testing. Most in our hobby will find the pricing reasonable.

I was very skeptical early on, and even had a negative experience with my second Puron. This was not the fault of the Puron, but in my set up which needed to be sorted out.

Forget about that they are too small or too cheap. I have many now and as I added them, they continued to improve the soundstage size, focus, imaging, just overall increased realism.

For reference I utilize a P.I. audio group Uberbuss for my DAC and transport only and had 3 MC 0.5 that I used for a couple of years. The only place I found to be detrimental with a Puron ironically was directly in the Uberbuss.

This thing treats your entire system at once and is right up there with the best audio purchases I have made.

 

LP

@hilde45 I think the OP’s post was at worst over-hyped, or at best over-enthusiastic.

However some of the responses are no different from the cable naysayers that have never tried the cable they condemn.

There is nothing wrong with a healthy dose of skepticism, but an uninformed opinion is worthless.

Do these "snake oil!" screamers believe that every potentially innovative non component product that comes to the marketplace is just that?

That would seem to be an absolutely foolish outlook for any audio enthusiast.

LP

Clearly there's some skepticism here. 

Too skeptical? Let's recall what the OP said:

"Imagine the possibilities"
"exceptional properties"
"noticeable and immediate"
"absolutely compliment"
"customized to new levels"

This product may do some good. For some systems. But it's sure as heck being over-hyped. That's why people are skeptical.

I mean, if it's a good product, why over-hype it? Common sense reaction.

I wonder how many of the naysayers have tried the plug-in Puron?

Wonder if their systems are resolving enough, for them to make out the difference. The Puron filters make audible changes in your system, as I found out. BTW, as science has proved it many times over, not everyone hears the same. These folks must not be among the others who can make out differences in slight changes.

I wonder how many of the naysayers have tried the plug-in Puron?

A no-questions-asked return policy is hardly sleezeball, and having dealt with Mark (4 transactions), if he says the return rate is less than 1%, it is.

@chocaholic 

Tweakin' at the Tweaker's Ball...

@barts I heard those carbon fiber switch plate covers are a game changer. 
 

Ever wonder why there is so much skepticism tied to this hobby?

@chocaholic +1

And throw in a Tice clock too!

Good grief...yet another sleezeball product that depends on the gullibility of the avid high-end audiophile.  Break out your tin hats, everyone!

I tried putting a box or 2 of stainless steel BB's on my amp. Moved them around because they did nothing in most places, until I put them directly over the back panel inputs.  Some improved clarity at the expense of sounding drier.  Oh well.

And still not a word to explain exactly what they do or how they do it. Hmmmm. Mpingo discs anyone?

FYI:

Compliment NOT the same as complement.

Just as AFFect not the same as EFFect.

Or, as the pundit said to appease the grammarian: there, their, they’re.

A question, have somebody use a power stabilizer in his system?

You didnot say exactly how to install them,

@mitch2 

We have only recently provided the Puron Resolve to Tom Gibbs from Positive Feedback only a few weeks ago (per my post above) - he has them now and perhaps in the future may (or may not) offer a Review. 

I personally hope so. 

Thanks - Mark

Good Afternoon

This is a new Puron product that just arrived some 4 weeks ago.

I had mentioned this product on Facebook and in other places. 

I had interest from a few people either using Puron or the Swiss Digital FUSE BOX and I shipped several out a few weeks back. 

I liked it a lot myself and thus far the comments here and in other places have been real good. 

The new site is up and running (verafiaudio.com) and once we have the gremlins tackled we will post more information on this and some of our other new products. 

Puron itself has been very successful with over 1600 units shipped and a return rate far less than 1%. I believe Resolve will do just as well - as will Puron FOCUS coming in a few months. 

Thanks - Mark 

Is this the same Puron Verahifi selling.

@hilde45 - Nice, pass the Shimmer please, I need some for my butterscotch pudding!

Regarding PURON RESOLVE, I am finding it hard to even find any information about it.  There is a YouTube video but Underwood HiFi, a popular Puron dealer, doesn't appear to carry it yet, and even a Posi+ive Feedback review of the Puron AC Power Conditioner from from this month doesn't mention the Resolve.  

There have been a number of these "set it on top" type products over the years (including bags of crystals, Shakti Stones, and more) and I have yet to see any of them really stand the test of time.  I would like to understand exactly what the Puron Resolve does, and how.  Maybe magnets?  It would be nice if the manufacturers of this stuff would explain "how" they actually work instead of the one-dimensional SOP of creating expectation bias by hyping the supposed fantastic outcomes that will undoubtedly result from using their product.

"Imagine the possibilities"
"exceptional properties"
"noticeable and immediate"
"absolutely compliment"
"customized to new levels"