Perfect Path Technologies: Omega E mat

  So 6 days ago I ordered 2 more mats.  Rather then tell you about the usual improvements(deeper and more detailed bass,  wide deeper soundstage,  little intricate details that come thru even more) . I will just say that for the last 2 months I have noticed the system sounds a little better each time I listen.  I plan on purchasing more mats until I hear no more improvements,  but so far the system just keeps getting better

I thought I would stop at 6, then 9, 10, 11, 12. I’ve stopped at 12 because I found that my new cabling seems to accomplish much of the same thing times 2 or 3 (but included speaker, pre-amp/amp IC, CD player IC and phono IC cabling) about as costly as 12 Omega E-Mats. Who knows, maybe another 6 or 12 mats would improve the sound more.

Or 20 more......or 39 or 52... or.......

So who has the most so far?
Any advance on 12?

<3 <3 Good morning.  38 Omega mats and 36 e-cards in the sound room, he just counted.  It's beyond belief! So natural. <3 He didn't stop because of sound degradation. The most we have stacked is 6 under each monoblock. <3 And 10 of the future room treatments :) Curious about when 38 stops improving!  Testing sounds fantastic! I love the bass you can feel with your whole body.  And deep melodic rhythm.  Was Neil Peart in the room with us this morning, Timmy?  <3 Love, Me.

Well,

A few weeks ago I decided to take the plunge, and ordered a dozen more from Tim. Add that to the 4 I had, and it makes 16. I’ve got two on my power panel, two under my CPT Equi=Core 300 balanced power unit, two each under my CD transport, DAC, pre & amp, and two on top of each speaker.

It’s two weeks today since I added the new ones. I’ve been waiting ’til they’ve had a chance to really charge up before posting. It’s been a great ride so far, the improvement in the bass, by itself, is amazing. I’m looking forward to even more over the next few weeks.

@mrs_ppt, I was wondering if you have an opinion to share with us regarding if a person only has one or two E-Mats, where is the best location for them?
I've been reading the discussion since it began, however, find it very frustrating when it's suggested to leave the E-Mat(s) in place for at least three or more weeks.
How's a person to find the best location to hear what the E-Mat(s) can really accomplish? 

mrs PPT.

If you have the E-cards in the room when will they actually be available for the public to purchase?

Also when you turn your gear off do you start all over? I assume not, but several of us were wondering. 

It doesn’t matter whether the gear is on or off, it’s the time.

Waiting for the mats to charge up can be frustrating for impatient people like me, but you’ll know it, and it’ll be worth it, when they “pop”. For me, that has been right around the two week mark, then things continue to improve. YMMV

I’ve noticed the sound will go temporarily south the day before they pop. Then, the next day, wow! If you’re well into the process, and things are off one day, I’ve learned that’s a good thing.

 Hey lak, 
Please call Timmy.
Your questions will be addressed directly. <3
603-203-4486 <3 Krissy

jetter,

Tim probably has  more insight into what is happening, but I honestly don’t have any idea what is going on. “Charging up” is just a phrase used to refer to the time period the mat has to stay in place before it reaches its full potential for sonic improvement in one's system.

^^^ I have my own theory.

I don’t believe the mats have to "charge up." I think the energy emanating from the mats takes time to completely saturate the equipment they are placed under. This includes the chassis, the circuit board, the connecting wires, the caps, resistors, tube sockets, the tubes and all of the dials and controls. As more of the area is saturated, or conversely, the more mats used, the better the sound will be.

Initially, the mats did improve the sound over using no mats at all. As I increased the number of mats used past a certain point, usually the sound degraded for a short period of time ... maybe at most about a half day.

I’ve already reported on placing the two mats under the "Sound Application" power conditioner. The first one was an overall improvement. With the second one installed about a week later, the upper mid-range was improved, but the bass was degraded. After four weeks using the two mats under the power conditioner, everything came back into focus, and from top to bottom was much improved. Its totally seamless now with the deepest, most defined bass I’ve ever had from this system.

To answer Lak’s question ... If I only had one mat, I would put it inside of the circuit breaker box door, close the door, and enjoy not only the initial improvement in the audio system, but the TV system as well. Then, I would leave it alone and enjoy the further improvements that will follow over the next four weeks .... and longer.

By the way, if you are using those magnetic plug-in thingies (can't think of their name right now) ... take them all out of your system before installing the Omega E Mats, and leave them out. According to several comments, I'm beginning to believe they are counter productive to what the Omega E Mats do.

Frank

@oregonpapa 

HFC MC-05's? 

^^^ Yes, Thanks ... I believe that's the proper name. 

Frank

So if HFCMC-05’s are not compatible, what about Bybee Signal Enhancers, anybody have experience? I’ve had amazing results with Bybee’s on the mains consumer unit ( 7 in total) and under the network switch and hub. Can I still keep these in place after I get the Omega E Mats or should I remove them? Your advice would be appreciated and thanks all for the interesting comments.

Innocent question. How can magnetic tweaks interfere with something that is allegedly not (rpt not) operating magnetically?

Pop quiz: How can any tweak interfere with another tweak if they address different issues?

My IQSE that were in the breaker panel are now on the fridge. Not sure if they really interfere but the mat is much more effective.
if someone is interested please PM me. 

I would remove the Bybees, if you want to hear everything the mat can do. In my experience, the two do not mix well. I also liked what the Bybees did before I tried the mats (and TC), but they are not even in the same league as the mats. 

The Total Contact and the Omega E Mats are a killer combo. 

By the way, as a person who home roasts coffee, I'd like to give Candella007 a plus one. +1

www.sweetmarias.com

Frank

Kenya AA Kahindu, medium roasted organic shade grown coffee beans from Blue Macaw Coffee Roasters, eBay seller, $21.95 + free shipping for two 1-lb bags. You got that right, Bubba!

OMG!!!! How good is this going to get?

I spent the majority of the day taking apart my Sound Application power conditioner and applying Total Contact to the interior. I pasted everything from the six double sockets, the wires, the caps, the connections and even the inside of the lid. It took a whole tube of TC to get the job done.

It was a real bear to put this thing back together, taking both hands and both feet. It came apart like a Rubik’s Cube. Surely they could have thought of a better way to put this damned thing together than this!

Anyway, I spent the past couple of hours listening to some of my favorite CD’s. It was like someone focused a bright light on the entire system. Still very musical, organic, involving emotionally, with much more subtlety and inner detail than ever before. My Gawd ... female vocals are so human and lifelike. Its getting scary.

I’ve recommended the Carol Kidd "Gold" CD before. Its out of print and collectible at this point, selling for $250+ on Ebay at the moment. If you have a friend who can burn you a copy, you need it. What a beautiful voice!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAROL-KIDD-GOLD-1995-MADE-IN-THE-UK-24K-GOLD-CD/252641905971?hash=item3ad2a...

So, bottom line ... if you are using a power conditioner, its more than worthwhile to apply Total Contact to the interior. Amazing, really.

Frank

@oregonpapa 

I’ve done that to one of my conditioners and it is amazing the difference. Do you happen to know what the shelf life of the TC is and does keeping it in the freezer prolong it? I got a buddy that may sell me what he has left of his tube so just wondering how long it can stay good. 

I have my remaining tube (70%+) sitting at room temperature (under 80 degrees,usually 67-75).  Will it last five years at room temperature or should I freeze it?

^^^ According to Tim Mrock putting it in the freezer will extend the life indefinitely. You'd have to thaw it out before use though.

Frank

Good morning <3 Without the TC being in the freezer, it still has a shelf life of years.... working on a tube approaching the 5 year mark and it's still fine. <3   Tim wants to get to know all his customers....it's the best part of this gig. <3 Please call with any questions you have. <3 603-203-4486. Have a great day, guys. <3 Krissy <3

  Yes I have called Tim on a couple of occasions and he is always fun to talk with.  You can hear and feel the passion he has over the phone.  He takes great joy in making sure his customers are happy.  Keep up the good work Tim

@barbapapa , @tommylion, thanks for your comments 

I sent a message to Tim but just wondering if anybody here knows what the amount of TC comes in the syringe? My friend that is selling me what he has left over has 1ml left in the tube and I can't remember when I got mine how many ml are in there. Anybody know?

You get 1.5 ml originally, <3 Should be plenty left to do a system <3 Have fun! <3 Krissy

Awesome, thanks for the quick reply Krissy!

t_ramey

  I received just over 1.5 ml with my batch. It was marked in graduations of 0.1 ml with marks along the syringe. You can paste a couple of large systems with 1.0 ml of TC. The stuff is like magic.... I literally mean that too! I just hit 56 but maybe 63 days (lost track) after pasting TC to my double run of Teo Ultra's using Audioquest Y splitters via the Schroeder Effect. The system sound quality gets better almost every week. The last two days I am really shocked by the three dimensionality of the sound. Female vocals are just beautiful now. Bass slam along with wonderful timbre and tone color of instruments. Huge soundstage and instrumental placing front to back, side to side and with great heighth. In other words the whole picture. I am quite stunned by this. I can't say at 30 days I noticed any real jump in sound quality but around 60 days just stunning. I really was expecting nothing to happen around 60 days but I am ever glad I was wrong! I can't believe how good a Redbook cd can sound! I bet it even gets a little better. 300 bucks for quite probably what would have cost at minimum 10k and up in  component and cabling upgrades....no exaggeration as I am quite good at math. I guess I have to gladly try the mat soon Lol.   Thank you thank you thank you Tim Mrock!!

Congrats on your TC results, Tuffy. Please do try an E Mat.  

I just placed a second mat under Wadia 861SE earlier today, waited eight hours and am listening now.  Two mats side-by-side fit just right from front-to-back under this large unit.  The results are already apparent. I am hearing more detail across the stage and much deeper in---about a hundred miles, give or take.  

I ordered this mat last Friday at around 2AM in the morning, and it arrived here in MN before noon today, on Monday---freaky fast---thanks, Krissy, for filling my request on packaging.       

If any of you have enough TC left over to paste the interior of your power conditioner, I highly recommend that you do so. I'm getting stunning results after doing this. It seems to be the most effective spot so far.

Frank

<3 Hey guys. <3

Tim and I are totally humbled by your responses. We read these heart-felt comments and it makes Timmy want to work even harder. 

<3
Enjoy the music!

Krissy

@Oregonpapa,

   Dp you mean the inside of the entire chasis? Thanks again for your recommendations of the SR Blue fuse, SR UEF Black power cord and especially the TC. TC AT or approaching 60 days is like magic! Fairly steady but very very nice improvement almost weekly in my system, no big deal at 30 days but at around 60 days now....holy crap great! Thanks to Frank and all others involved for this and other threads on the above mentioned products. 

I forgot to thank and mention my friend Bob in Plainfield Il (Dorkwad) who told me about the TC thread. I hope he is enjoying his new wonderful speaker addition to his system.

In order to paste the entire chassis one would need a tub of TC🙂 I pasted my breaker panel door and used almost 1/2 a container. I would use a whole one or more to cover my BPT conditioner.  

tuffy ...

Yes, paste everything inside including the sides of the receptacles (plugs), wires, connections, Caps, AND the inside of the chassis including the inside of the cover.

It took an entire tube of TC to do my six-outlet power conditioner. For the price of one tube of Total Contact, if your results are the same as mine, you'll be getting a $10,000 upgrade to your system. No joke. 

These results were attained right off the bat ... as soon as I put the power conditioner back together. It was a VERY significant improvement. With that in mind, remember that there is a curing process for the Total Contact, with jumps in SQ at four weeks, and another big one at eight weeks.

I can  hardly wait. 

Frank

@oregonpapa How do you undo the hex screws from the Sound Application conditioner.

Mine seems to be stuck and hardly turn, afraid they will get damaged or stripped?

Thanks

Hey.... I cheated and asked Timmy. He said wick a little bit of lubricant, either silicone, PB Blaster or WD 40....you just have to be careful because petroleum based lubricants will attack rubber and some plastics. With that said, lightly spray little short blasts, the cap head screw will suck it in a tiny bit. Let it sit for one to two days, and it should break away, no problem-o. <3 Krissy & Timmy

Hi,

WD40 works well for rusted or gunk seized treads, but my real concern is if the units screw threads where intentionally thread locked or threads possible flatted to tamper proof the unit and keep prying hands out.

The force needed does seem like the hex head may "round" if further force was used.

Just wondering how and where inside the unit could paint some Total contact.

Thanks

Hey. Timmy said if the company has used red thread lock, it's heat only.... and it's high heat. Not positive, but I think it's 800+ degrees. A solder tip should do the trick, unless the screw is going through a PC board... but even then, you should be OK. Torch....NO-NO. 
Tamper-proof we've seen? One company will  strip out the hex. You have to drill  out the countersunk screw .... a countersink bit, drill press and a real soft touch. You should be able to do without marring the surrounding case. Call Timmy tomorrow, he'll explain in more detail. . . . Good night. Krissy and Tim

Justtubes2 ...

 No problem getting my hex screws out. I just used a hex wrench. My problem was that there were three sizes of wrenches needed to remove the screws on just the cover. 

Frank

People please use common sense. As stated in its literature Total Contact is HIGHLY CONDUCTIVE. Painting the entire inside of a power conditioner is dangerous! They put "tamper proof" hex screws on there for a reason! Its very irresponsible for anyone, especially a manufacturer, to advise people to drill them out and offer to give advice on how to do so.

^^^ sbayne ...

The hex screws on my power conditioner were not "tamper proof." All screws came out readily .... although it took three differently sized "wrenches" to get them out. 

The power conditioner is unplugged from the power source before beginning any work.

Pasting contacts is pasting contacts.  What's the danger in pasting the connecting wires to the outlets in the power conditioner as opposed to pasting the switches in the circuit breaker box, the ends of an interconnect cable, the tines on an electrical plug, or the pins on a phono cartridge?

Just curious as to how you arrived at the "danger" aspect of this.

Thanks ...

Frank

I think he is referring to pasting the entire unit chassis, outlet sides, wires, caps, etc... and potentially causing an unintended conductive bridge leading to a short. It is a good reminder to be very careful and diligent.  Agreed?