OK, so I have to ask. Is this real, or is this a joke?

How long does it take for the 1260 to dry? I'm leaving on a trip and will do one IC before I leave. Thanks

I will make a pipe out of aluminum foil put a drop in it and light a fire under it..tell ya later.
Tom

Not sure what you are trying to say. Was that for me or someone else?

rushfan71
Since we're on the subject, can anyone offer their experience with Mad Scientists Audio Graphene contact enhancer.

I have some of Bob's cables. 
Mad Scientist Nitro power cables, upgraded to Mad Scientist Nitro Nano power cables, and Black Magic USB.
Have a couple of his Graphene tubes. Will be the last tweak.
Still too much moving of things to use it.

About to send my amp away to get some parts replaced.

@pauly , really? Of course I am irritating you. You have no intelligent response. Puff up those feathers:-)

@millercarbon

Ever heard of Q-tips? Probably not. Apparently never heard of keeping toddlers away from electronics either.

I think we got off on the wrong foot.

I do believe you tried 1260, I do believe you heard a difference, and I do generally find your comments on the topic mildly interesting. Your advice regarding my system, my personal behavior or decisions I make, not so much. 

My sincere apologies if my response to you made you think otherwise - I was merely being civil. 

To clean the female, banana plug cavity of binding posts I either remove a bit of cotton off a Q-tip or fold a pipe cleaner. I use Flitz metal cleaner and just make sure you get it all off. Use real Q-tip brand rolled paper, the plastic shaft ones bend easy and are useless.

I’ve done all that stuff, and more. Way more. The $71 QSA blue fuse is better than any $500 power cord, interconnect, Pod, spring, panel, you name it. By all accounts this holds true for Yellow and Violet, etc. If you heard the Blue you would not be making such comments. This stuff is good enough I will be trading in my Blue towards a Yellow for the Herron, a Violet for the Blackhawk, and one set of each of the three stones for wherever they work best.

Of all the stuff demo’d at Chuxpona 21 the one I wish the most we had compared was the QSA fuse. It is easily the best tweak for the money, and this is coming from a guy who knows his tweaks.

Mike at tweekgeeks.com says the same on his site. He knows what he’s talking about. We both do. Best $71 you will ever spend. Period.

I don't know why it is people are so willing and eager to believe every new box is worth five grand more than the last box, yet refuse to entertain the possibility something new can be even better. Oh well. Too bad. It does me not the least bit of harm. Personally, I rather enjoy having a system that walks all over much more expensive rigs, for reasons nobody can understand. I get a real kick out of it. 

It is the poor souls who fail to try because they fall for these comments from those who do not know. Those are the ones I feel sorry for. Oh well. As it has been, so shall it ever be. Until you yourself decide otherwise.

If it's a joke.....it's in poor taste, and an expensive one. ;)

You going for a ride in a car missing one front wheel? Think it might be dangerous? But, you are an idiot for never trying it first.

"Your pathetic analogy is absurd and completely non pertinent to the topic … as is your presence on this forum. If you think your imagined “knowledge” trumps what I, and the other posters observe, you are delusional."

Actually, for most of us, the analogy is spot on.  We can't try everything that is claimed to 'work'--we have neither the time, nor the money. So some improvement that on the face of it seems absurd will have to wait for those modifications that seem to make sense.  I have $500-$2000 I want to use to improve my system, say. Should I squander it on stuff like this--how about new tubes? or a pre-amp?  or a pile of CDs?   I personally consider lots of things to be stupid and useless that I feel no need to experiment with.   Heroin, for example (Do I listen to those who scoff at me for not trying it?)  Sweat lodges.  Elixirs of all kinds. A new washing machine. And I ignore them despite the fact that their ads tell me this product will change my life.  I don't think any of us are really bothered by those who claim that of course, this hi-end product will only 'work' on systems much more expensive than ours, or only for those with the Golden Ear, or only for sound engineers.   As for those who claim that skeptics have no business commenting here, your religion must be pretty shaky to be challenged by an apostate or two.

" Actually, for most of us, the analogy is spot on."

Again, you are making an assumption.

This stuff may well work, but I have an ethical/moral objection to anyone trying to make a 1,000% or more profit so will not be buying it.

I've applied the nps-1260 to two runs of unbalanced interconnects, one run of speaker cables, and two power cords. It works. I'll be doing fuses next.

It's exasperating to hear comments from people on this forum who haven't tried a product but still think they can have a useful opinion about it. 

Back to what the nps did. No veils were lifted, I didn't see deeper into the music. None of the usual rave cliches apply. But it has been a clear incremental improvement and worth the price if you have that amount of fun money lying around. 

I had been using Perfect Path paste before this and thought highly of it. I have to say that what I'm hearing now with nps has been an improvement over the PP contact enhancer.

What I heard was cleaner bass with more natural overtones (my speakers go down to 37 Hz. I'm hearing a better 37). The sound stage is slightly expanded. The biggest difference I've found has to do with the mix within the sound stage. Music sounds less congealed, more open, with individual instruments positioned more clearly. I'm happier with that. 

I'd say it's a fool's errand to look for earth-shaking improvements from a single product. Products like that don't exist. But as obvious but incremental improvements go -- and that is all I look for – the nps was worth it.

OK kudelka8, convince us that it works and do not tell us that somehow it sounds better. We have absolutely no way to control your hearing at a distance. Show us some data demonstrating improved conductivity. lower noise, something. Your ears are extremely poor test devices. They are weak and extremely inaccurate just like most of us. If you can hear it then a test device can pick it up. 

When you see stuff like this, obviously priced ridiculously the makers know it does not work. They are trying to get as much money out of it quickly. Something that really works will eventually sell in the boat loads making more profit at lower retail prices. You would want people to buy it to spread the word. To do that you would never price it like this. You would wait till everyone is hooked on it then raise prices. 

jdane, Thanx for the support.

So bizarre. The music sounds better to me, and I know my music intimately. Various tracks and albums that I have been listening to for decades and that I've used to test my system for years sound better in clear and describable ways now that I have applied the nps. I don't have to "bench" my ears to know that what I'm hearing sounds both different and better. 

When people come out negative on new products without testing them, it almost always comes back around to price. If it costs too much for you to try it, then don't. 

So Flat Earther Dilbert Dude with speakers holding up his ceiling.
What is the most important section of any component and what has the most influence on any signal of that component? Tom

Actually the analogy works for everyone unless you are truly suicidal. To link physical danger with financial danger is perfectly appropriate as they are both related to survival. It is only that one is not near as dangerous as the other. I used it to drive the point home. This is a typical example of humans using lay instinct to their financial advantage. It is rampant in the audiophile world and highly dishonest. 

The gold contacts that the vast majority of us use on low level and even high level devices have conductivity vastly superior to what we actually need. Thinking you can make a system sound better spreading anything on connectors is a great example of faulty thinking that at first glance seems to make sense. I bought some stuff in a syringe back in the early 80's. I do not remember the name but it was definitely an oil. Eventually I got down to AB testing it and it did absolutely nothing that I could reliably hear. Further examination of the subject reveled why.  

The thing is, I have applied the nps to my system and you obviously haven't done that. This site would be a lot more informative if I didn't have to wade through commentary by people who criticize products they haven't tried. 

When someone says the tried something and it didn't improve the sound, that is useful to me. When someone says "Don't bother trying it, it couldn't possibly help," that isn't. 

The interesting thing about these threads is how they basically don’t change. Some tweaky product comes out that is promoted by some as a total game-changer while others view it as just another get rich quick scheme. I am not judging what people hear or don’t hear in their systems or how they spend their money, but I have become skeptical of these tweaks primarily because none of them I have tried over the many years have made improvements in the sound of my system even remotely proportional to the hype. New amps, new speakers, dual subs, better equipment support, room treatment, and even damped springs under my speakers have all made audible improvements to my system, but the tweaky stuff I have tried over the years, including various contact pastes, “audiophile” fuses, small usb boxes, switches, electromatic stabilizers, quantum enhancers, magnets, carbon damping, and more have mostly been barely audible. Very little of this stuff stands the test of time.

Through magnetic conduction, NPS-1260 works on a micro-level to bind the electrons in your connectors, improve their transfer of energy, and direct the current more fluidly

 I have no idea if it improves the sound, but this marketing statement is pure bull crap. 

"magnetic conduction" is BS
"bind the electrons in your connectors" is BS
"direct the current more fluidly" is BS

current is not the flow of electrons and there is no such thing as magnetic conduction

if everything they say is BS it doesn't mean it doesn't do something, but it doesn't do what they say  because they are just making stuff up.

Some peoples systems are so very highly resolving that those systems may reveal minor improvements like this or fuses, etc. whereas others may have weak links in their systems making any small improvement negligible. 

Also, everyones hearing and listening skills vary tremendously.

Lastly, perception of sound is not entirely understood and if you think you hear something, you do, even if it is not measurable. Everything can't make a huge difference, but if you think it does, who am I to argue, especially without trying it myself.

Bottom line - I would not spend $349 on contact enhancement liquid, but if you've got $50K or more invested in your system, it is hard to get an audible improvement for that amount of money. Plus, some places offer a money back guarantee.

@mijostin "Show us some data demonstrating improved conductivity. lower noise, something. Your ears are extremely poor test devices. They are weak and extremely inaccurate just like most of us. If you can hear it then a test device can pick it up."

On the other hand, if you haven’t purchased it , tested it and documented the outcome yourself how can you state that anyone that has purchased it actually can not hear an impact? Rather than require others to prove your point prove it yourself and disclose

Understanding electro magnetic wave relationships can be seen here. Tom
https://youtu.be/W1cTpqM9DaU

NPS-1260 works. I was one of the first on this forum to be daring enough to give it a try. Nuff said. Enjoy. 

If you can hear it then a test device can pick it up

If true, this means that we have a complete understanding about how the human brain receives and process external stimulus. It means we have been able to quantify everything that has to do with how we hear and how our brain reacts to this stimulus. It means we have test equipment capable of measuring everything that has anything to do with how we hear and how our brain works.

which of course means....  it isn't true. 

When someone says the tried something and it didn't improve the sound, that is useful to me. When someone says "Don't bother trying it, it couldn't possibly help," that isn't.

thank you

After reading the 1260 review and my QSA fuse revelation I am a believer the right tweeks make the most significant impact to sound enhancements for those of us that can’t afford or justify spending thousands on component upgrades. Tubes, cables, fuses now enhancer ordered.  Sound above it’s price point!

Its a joke HO HO!!

@mijostin

" No, I am not going to waste my money on something for which there is no reasonable explanation of function regardless of what anyone hears and I guarantee that I will loose a lot less money over time and have a much better sounding system because I’m spending the money on things that actually work like better cartridges, amps, speakers and test equipment."

There are a lot of folks on this Forum who, no different than you, have/are investing a lot of money on better equipment to get a better sounding system (check out the virtual systems). What is different is that they have found by listening vs testing that making investments in tweaks such as this provide further incremental benefits. They are not sacrificing one investment for the other. Maybe it is time to just agree to disagree, different approaches some are satisfied with listening while you and some others require testing. Come the end of the day what matters is which approach works for the individual making the decision, this isn’t life or death no one needs saving

tksteingraber-

After reading the 1260 review and my QSA fuse revelation I am a believer the right tweeks make the most significant impact to sound enhancements for those of us that can’t afford or justify spending thousands on component upgrades. Tubes, cables, fuses now enhancer ordered.  Sound above it’s price point!

tksteingraber by Jove I think you've got it! Once you have your basic system components then by far the best thing to do is to tweak it out with stuff like this. Haven't tried 1260 but pretty much every inch of my system is treated with something similar, and the QSA fuses are for sure a better use of funds than just about anything else you could do. Until someone comes along with something even better. Which they always do.  

At Chuxpona 21 https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-first-ever-chuxpona-is-a-wrap Brandon brought his Bel Canto power amp. Before hooking it up I treated all the tube pins with Total Contact. Later, when Brandon got home, he was floored and wondering why his amp sounded better now- until he remembered the TC treatment.  

That was just a few tube pins on just a few tubes. Imagine if we had done his whole system. Maybe we will, when I go there Saturday. Only takes a speck of the stuff after all. Mostly it is time to do it.  

Time, and effort. Congratulations tksteingraber for making the effort. Too many carp and opine without ever even trying. Welcome to the world of those who do. Say goodbye to the world of those who do not. Leave them behind, and never look back. 

Some of the people on here talk about audiophiles being all about the sound! Yet Some "audiophiles" will spend 20 or 30k on speakers because of how they look even if there might be 4k speakers that sound better because they are "ugly". seems being an audiophile is not always about sound but about aesthetics..

I just got a bottle from The Cable Company. It was $331.

Stuff works. Don't drink it though. Ok?

Don't:
-Drink it
-Apply to sensitive skin
-Inhale fumes

AndForGF's Sake, don't smoke it...
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O17HBMGlWc

Equipment will not look @ GF and exit....

Hats off to vinylshadow229 for putting his money where his mouse is, although $330ish seems a bit dear to us.

If you'd like to experiment with contact enhancers, a 5Ml 'kit' of original Stabalent 22 that yields 30Ml of diluted product is available on Amazon for less than $60 - still pretty spendy, but somewhat more affordable.

And asvjerry2, I've been in relationships where only drugs give sufficient clarity to see that the window is by far the best way out...

Cheers

I am doing it to save people who are not as learned about these things from wasting their hard earned money on garbage.

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I certainly want to thank you for your concern. As one of our wise members stated "What if I don’t want to be saved".

I’m sure you believe your advise is wise, my question is WHY?

I’ve yet to find a contact enhancer that didn’t work to one extent or another. Some cleaners won’t enhance the sound but after a dirty LPad, switch or pot is cleaned it is very noticeable.

Enhancer doesn’t always mean it enhances the sound. BUT it can and some of these concoctions really do.

Every journeyman mechanic on the planet know to use contact enhancers. The late 70s until current production all cars/semi/heavy equipment/stationary equipment ALL use contact enhancers and sealers on every loom connection.

Contact enhancers have been used sense the time of Thomas Alva Edison. THEY used graphite contact enhancers at the turn of the century, the LAST century..

Electrical Engineers know, at least their 16th Edition (2003) sure speaks of different "contact enhancers". One being graphene and reduction in Nano or Micro Arcing.. A serious issue with micro SMT and longevity vs air/space travel. Can’t climb out on a wing at 40,000 and fix STUFF, AY?

Maybe you should try to save them from their own publications..

You’ll be all the rage and rightly so..

Regards

Silver is the best conductor followed by Copper then Gold.
 
By disconnecting and reconnecting a connector every now and then will ensure the best connection you can get. Especially if all your connections are silver plated as even silver oxide is conductive. All other metal oxides are non conductive. 

Guess when you Unplug a connection that hasn't been touched for a while, then add magic fluid to it and reconnect that connection its not the fluid giving you a better connection but its the friction of reconnecting scraping through the oxides giving you a clean (new) connection. 

Hence the perceived improvement of audio quality! 

It's not rocket science! 

By the way, a deoxidising contact cleaner could help to prevent future oxidising but over time some of their residues can also cause connection issues. 

I'd rather use the reliable hassle free method of once in a while disconnecting then reconnecting all the connections, renewing the connection. 

Cheers! 

nzastro,
As good as this product is, it just may be "Rocket Science". BTW, I’ve disconnected & reconnected connections maybe a few thousand times through this hobby & have never experienced the sound quality improvements this product delivers. It's a nice thought though.

You should try it.

Thanks Boxer 12, but I'm quite happy with the way my system sounds at the moment. 
Think I'd notice more of an audio improvement with a dram or two of a good whisky! 
Cheers! 

nzastro,

Too bad you cannot try it, since you have such a strong opinion of the stuff.
I have been around the block a few times with many so-called tweaks, enhancements etc. And I have never been shy about calling out a product that does not work and or not worth the money.

But, the 1260 really is a remarkable product!
It is nothing like cleaning connections or adding some contact cleaner. This product must do something more, perhaps it seals/shields it from RF/EMI perhaps it does have some magnetic properties, but I really don’t know.
But I TRIED IT! And it really improves the sound quality!

Closed minds will not advance the discussion. It just makes the users and the naysayers go round and round to no end. Try it before you comment.

ozzy

+1ozzy and boxer12

This is no joke and yet another amazing sound improvement.  It was a leap of faith well worth the jump…i just can’t believe what a difference this secret sauce and QSA fuses can do for sound enhancement.  I have Michael Stanley reincarnated playing Live in Tangiers in my home.  Unbelievable…thanks to all for the testimonials of success.

Amazing, isn't it, what one can accomplish when willing to try?