New Synergistic Product: Tuning Discs


I was lucky enough to be asked to try out a prototype of a new Synergistic Research product. For now, I think they are calling it a Tuning disc.

What it looks like is a small wafer (smaller than a dime and is very thin). They are either in gold or purple tops and are attached using some tacking substance. I placed 2 on top of my Shunyata Sigma V2 interconnects.

I wasn’t expecting much but whoa, did these things work! First, I tried the purple on my interconnects and boy did the soundstage widen with lots of air.

Then I tried the gold discs and though the sound stage shrunk perhaps a little but the naturalness of the music was fantastic!

 

Hard to believe that these things work so well, I am really impressed.

ozzy

 

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my issue isnt the products, my issue is the pricing

 

Obviously, this person has never owned a boat.

 

for the mapman heroin comparison, if I knew I would need to buy extra discs each week, more and more every week, and that my system would ultimately be destroyed, I wouldn't care how good they sounded, I would stay far away...

I can guarantee you all one thing: The price to pay for serious audio equipment will never be determined by the buyer--despite the fervent wishes of nearly everyone on this site.

Part of being an audiophile is knowing something about what’s going on inside the gear. Hence, the knowledge that a resistor costs pennies, etc., can lead to mistaken conclusions about the entire design and fabrication process. If the price is too high, sales will lag and you will be able to buy it in 2 years at what you consider a "fair" price.

Personally, I have no problem finding enough affordable upgrades to satisfy me and totally frustrate my partner--and bank account.

Actually, the price to pay for a product should be considered against the audio sound increase. Price to performance ratio?

ozzy

So what is fair pricing and who determines what is fair?

Fair is what ever the market will accept.

If you do not accept the price......

my issue isn't the products, my issue is the pricing

bet these things come in between $200-$500 

We will never have fair pricing in audio

Thanks,

It came from an email showing it as a new product. Probably many did who sign up for the newsletter.

ozzy

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These “contrarians” who poo-poo the efficacy of expensive tweaks, cables (and any audio product for that matter) often appear in many other forums, threads, audio groups, questioning the merits of expensive audio products.  They are either disgruntled with their lot in life (e.g. a spouse who wears the proverbial pants, a wallet that squeaks so loud they hate to open it, etc.) or their skills of self-persuasion require constant exercising with selfish expectations of indulgence on our part. 

Not having a fact-based opinion because it's foreclosed by those circumstances, however, doesn't prevent them from expressing their frustration-based comments.

It's not about whether they can or cannot afford to pay more.  Hobbyists who operate within a prescribed budget are quite content with value-based high performance systems and work diligently to accomplish that end. They bear no grudge against those who chose to spend more. 

 

“Is mucking with the EM field a good thing?”

 

If it produces the desired results, yes. 

                                             tommylion= +1

     The cult of the Naysayer Doctrine, wants you to accept their revelations, by faith (ie: YOUR senses and mental faculties are worthless and deceitful).

     You MUST follow their precepts, or- be eternally DAMNED to partake of their (seemingly) inexhaustible and ubiquitous fountain of misinformed/uneducated, faith-based, hubris-salted, BLATHER (Dunning-Kruger, at it's finest).

                                            Happy listening!

The really strange ones are those who keep trying to convince people that they don't hear what they hear!🙄

                                       A BIG +1, for this post:

     "If you haven't tried a product, why would we ever care what you think about it?

     I thought this place was to share knowledge about the gear and music we've listened to in our systems.

                                              Am I wrong?"

What do people think of heroin having never tried it? Just saying.

I though audiophiles like clean simple signal paths?    Is mucking with the EM field a good thing? 

These "audiophiles" people must be very very strange people 🙄

Apparently for the same reason we should care about your confirmation bias. But hey....no one like to admit looking like a fool.

Confirmation bias works both ways. Especially when you don't even try something. You just know

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently for the same reason we should care about your confirmation bias. But hey....no one like to admit looking like a fool.    

Thanks mom

If you haven't tried a product, why would we ever care what you think about it? I thought this place was to share knowledge about the gear and music we've listened to in our systems. Am I wrong

Apparently for the same reason we should care about your confirmation bias. But hey....no one like to admit looking like a fool.

The line is like a river in your house crossing all there is in your house...

A clean line does not exist....

The map is not the reality....

I though audiophiles like clean simple signal paths?    Is mucking with the EM field a good thing? 

my issue isnt the products, my issue is the pricing

bet these things come in between $200-$500 

We will never have fair pricing in audio

@pesky_wabbit 

 

All good brother! I try to avoid doing anything prior to my first pot of coffee.

I was a speaker / interconnect cable denier until I purchased a good set and listened. I was an power cable denier until I purchased a good set and listened. I was a isolation denier until I started experimenting with those cheap Nobsound springs. Fuses are waiting for me to get home and listen. I will absolutely purchase a set of the Tuning Discs based on what I have already experienced. 

If you haven't tried a product, why would we ever care what you think about it? I thought this place was to share knowledge about the gear and music we've listened to in our systems. Am I wrong?

Oz(zy)

Just don’t post anything (negative) and hold for awhile. Let the disc’s hit the market and give time for others to post of their effectiveness in their systems. Don’t let the bullies win. It took some time for the moderators to let threads like this one, be.

Remember, the bullies have nothing else better to do in their lives. And don’t give the moderators any reason to take this thread down or similar others like it in the future.

Nice Focal’s man! I can only imagine the effects of the discs on those babies! Do tell!

 

My waste sounds delightful...

 

I am so grateful having your permission. Do I grovel at your feet now, or later? 

 

I love snake soil threads as well secretion guy.

So much so that I may just end up buying a tuning disc or four. My money, my ears, my judgement, my passion.

The naysayers won't deter; only annoy with blind self-righteous fervour.

Your money. Waste it as you like.

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my most utter and sincere apologiea, A lesson that I should wear my reading glasses at all times.

@pesky_wabbit 

 

What? Unless you are using multiple identities here, you have miss read my post my dear. It was directed at @pedroeb 

 

Someones got their knickers in a twist.

 So, heroin is being compared to audio tweaks?  I’ve never seen a parent lose their child to tuning disks. But,I will freely admit that I haven’t seen everything.  I’d also say that the comparison, is highly off the mark. 

What do people think of heroin having never tried it? Just saying.

 

If it weren’t for threads like this these things would get no attention. Would have to have paid ads. Be thankful!

 Ozzy,

  Keep this topic here. I am glad I saw it. I actually try things before forming an opinion. My dealer is going to let me try these once they come in.

 Speaking of keeping an open mind when I was picking up some Vicoustic  acoustic treatments the dealer who also sells Synergistic asked if I wanted to try a Tranquility pod.

   I had never heard of one at the time but said sure , why not. Bought the 1st one after demoing it in my system. A few weeks later I asked for another one to try for the trial period. That one too made a vast difference also.

  I have a 3rd one coming this week for another trial period. Moral of this is to keep an open mind, you just might improve your system and get even more enjoyment out of it.

  When I first saw the Tranquility pod at the dealers shop I had my doubts, boy was I wrong.  

 

 

I love snake soil threads as well secretion guy.

So much so that I may just end up buying a tuning disc or four. My money, my ears, my judgement, my passion.

The naysayers won't deter; only annoy with blind self-righteous fervour.

So,let me get this straight.  People that have never used or tried a product,are arguing with someone that has,about the validity of said product. Is this the gist of it?? 

I'm on my 3rd bag of popcorn now. Keep this thread alive it's great entertainment

how can a product that offers a full 30 day refund be defined as snake oil?

+1 @grannyring . . What's Best Forum is more inciteful and civilized these days. I've been here on Audiogon since 2001 and am really disappointed how these threads have become so sidetracked and snarky. Thanks for the post Bill.

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Wading through the turmoil of certain others, this here @ozzy resonates with me.

 

I also own the purple fuses and the QSA red fuses for that matter.

I think these tuning discs will give you more bang for the money. It is an instant result, not something you have to let burn in or listen carefully to tell if it is doing something.

As a potential buyer, do we have a ballpark Dealer launch date? The Florida gig next month was read.

So @grannyring you are going to let the crazies take over this forum too?

I always thought of Audiogon as the last stand, the only remaining audio forum where people can freely discuss any audio related subject without being ridiculed by the measurement morons and the general purpose  psychopaths and internet trolls. Unfortunately, other than WBF and a few dealers-run forums, where these jerks are kicked out immediately, there is not much left out there. I for one will continue to post in Audiogon. There are still a few good people left here.

There is a very strong current of culture of complaint going today, quite opposed to freedom of expression and experiential learning.

There are some other great Audiophile forums. I, like many other long time posters here, will be opting out of Agon very soon as this is no longer a good place to learn from others and their experiences. I want to share my experiences, but this is also no longer an enjoyable experience. Too many trouble makers not interested in sharing actual experiences, but just want to be negative. WBF is a great place to hear from audiophiles who actually care and are open minded. I look forward to growing and enjoying the conversations there. I’m afraid this forum is too far gone for hope now. Sad really, but I enjoy this hobby too much to just go at it solo and look forward to conversing in an enjoyable forum.

 

This forum has gone from enjoyable to stressful.  I stay off of social media for this very reason.  Seems the “stress” has now overtaken my once enjoyable hobby outlet. 

@thyname

Of course you would like to see @ozzy take this thread down as it would serve your own agenda and self interest ….

“ OooooH Look Look … another thread nuked because of ( Insert whatever name )

Let’s face it you are no Machiavelli  are you 🤣