Do PS Audio BHK 300 monoblock amps require a 20 amp line? If not require one would the sound better with one? Or is a 15 amp line sufficient?
Excellent Solid State or Hybrid Monoblocks Recommendations
I am interested in staying under 15k for a pair of high performing monoblocks, sold state or hybrid, to acquire.
My current system is an Aric Audio Motherlode preamp, a Space-Tech super tube rectifier, Teac NT-505 modded dac, outboard clock, Aerial Acoustic 7T modded speakers, ENIGMAcoustics Sopranino supertweeters, Grover Huffman Pharoah biwire speaker cables, Zavfino Silver Dart interconnects, Melco 6TB server, Melco CD transport, Waversa Reference USB filter between the cd transport and server, Waversa Reference LAN filter, Synergistic Research active grounding block, and Synergistic Research Ethernet Switch UEF.
My modded JC1 monoblocks sound heavenly. However, I am having issues with no sound coming out of 1 channel. My modded PassLab X250.5 amps sound really good but lack the top end sparkle, air and litheness of the Parasounds JC1s. I am gonna fire back up my Canary CA-160 modded tube monoblocks but am not wild about the tube maintenance requirements.
So, I seek another pair of monoblocks that excel in clarity, balance across the frequency spectrum but also present upper registers with delicacy, spaciousness, and nice instrument separation. I am looking at Audio Van Alstine 750 wpc monoblocks and the Thrax black monoblocks up for sale here on Audiogon. Other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
OP if you are looking for sparkle tube dac or tube cd player might be the answer. I own Andra Eaggleston speakers power hungry , tried many amps parasound JC 1, Krell, Lecinsons, Pass Labs, BAT. Only the tsakadiris tube mono Apollon made them sing. They are made from Greece. Iam not sure if you can still find them. |
There's a pair of Pathos hybrid monoblocks on USAM. I personally have the Pathos Adrenalin monoblocks and the Pathos Synapse pre. These may be out of your budget range but the Pathos Inpol for sale on USAM would be within you budget. Pathos has a unique hybrid design that I believe they have patented. My pathos setup is my "endgame" for my main system and I am very happy with it. I have other amps in my office system which I've directly AB compared to - Hifi Rose RA180 integrated, Sophia Electric 300B monoblocks, Gold Note PA1175, and I'm getting a pair of Kinki B7 monoblocks shortly as well. |
I went from tube integrated amp to the Class D mono blocks and separate pre-amp from Atma-Sphere. My experience with them and their products have been great. I had to call them several times for info on tubes/tweaks/ general questions about the MP-3.3 preamp and their customer service is 5-star. I have no skin in the game. Just another one of their happy customers. I also see that PS Audio is having a killer sale on the BHK. |
For whatever reason, my post was just blocked. But Kal Rubinson (who is a mensch) used a pair of Bel Canto monoblocks for his review of your speakers and was quite pleased. So, please google that, since I can't sent you a link. They are way UNDER your budget, looking around at the various sales sites. Interestingly, he did a bit of a shoot out with my speakers (Bower Diamond) in the review and just looking at the size of the woofers are a lot more power hungry. So you would have plenty of room. Still think the Classe Deltas would be a good choice, but they are slightly OVER budget. But they are probably more than you need, unless you plan on getting a hungrier speaker. |
@davetheoilguy I am driving Aerial Acoustic 7T speakers. They have been rebuilt, including the crossovers, and rewired with silver wire. Much clearer than stock for sure. |
I love the 6DJ8/6922/7308 sound and one of the selling points was the seller had matched Mullard 7308’s in it. I also have several NOS Amperex 6922’s (PQ and Bugle) that I plan to roll in when I get more listening time.😁 I have KEF Reference 5’s that are listed as 90dbs, so the added power was never needed, but it’s always good to have.😁
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@ozzy where did u purchase the Michi’s? @ curiousjim, thanks for the update on the sonics |
Congrats! Those were very tempting for the price. Which tubes are you currently running? I found the 6DJ8 Amperex A frames (~$70/pr on eBay for NOS) to be a great reference tube. They do everything well, excellent imaging and very balanced across all frequencies. Great place to start if you're running stock tubes, especially since they're easy to find as NOS and reasonably priced. My current preferred pair is a set of Westinghouse 6DJ8 medical grade tubes (likely rebranded Mullards) that have more of a 'live' feel to them, which win out slightly over the Amperex. I tried a lot of others ranging from Valvo to Russian NOS to BHK recommended Tungsram, but the Mullard and Amperex tubes sound best to me so far. For reference, the BHK 250 even manages to drive my MBL 101s at moderate listening levels. Great amp with plenty of power for most speakers. |
My first impressions of the BHK300’s are they are that they have more pop. When listening to Classical music, and it goes from a few violins playing to the whole orchestra playing, the sound is more realistic. The jump is sound is fast and clear. Having come from a Hegel H390, the difference was dramatic. The separation of instruments and people was also noticeable better. All the Best. |
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I read your post quickly and without my glasses, but what speakers are you driving/want to drive? I think that makes a biggest difference in choice. FWIW, I went with Classe Delta Monos (slightly higher that budget if you bought open box/used, but in your target range) for BW800s because the speakers and amps with designed with each other in mind. They are class A during normal listening and crank up to 400W, so are very quick and responsive — with the big BWs. I’ve been extremely pleased. |
Personally I think you have a great set of monoblocks in the canary ca160 s. Order a set of sohpia electric blue bottle el34 power tubes and be happy . By what you have said it appears like you are not afraid of spending money on your audio adventure so just go order the 16 el 34s and be happy. The other lower cost tube that I tube rolled I can look and yell you what I ended up with it escapes me at the moment. I believe one pair are reflecktor another pair is valvo the other two pairs I will have to look at.
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@rgottschalk thanks for the BAT recommendation. Will check it out. @tomic601 thanks for the Aesthetix rec. Will for sure due my diligence on it. |
@jaymark . The 2000's are better |
@curiousjim how would u describe your initial impression of the sonic signature of the bhk 300 monoblocks? @timlub Thanks for the amp recommendation. I have some old modded Ampzilla amps in my exercise room audio system that are damn good. |
I just bought a pair of PS Audio BHK300’s and the BHK preamp. I’ve been using separates for ever, tried a Hegel H390 ( very good ) but just went back to separates. The amps are fairly neutral and have a lot of punch when it’s needed. The input stage comes with 12AU7’s, but can use several others. Haven’t had mine long enough to say much more. They pop up used from time to time for $6000-$9000. BTW, PS Audio is closing out the model before these the BHK 250’s for half price. All the best. |
@jl35 Doug Jessie, ASi Teknology modified my amps, dac, preamps and speakers... |
@pynkfloydd I will check out the amps u suggested on the PS Audio website. @jl35 Thanks foe the PassLabs suggestion. I already have two Pass Labs amps, neither though is a monoblock. They sound good, both modded, but the JC1 monoblocks sound better, especially in the upper registers. |
@jaymark thank you. Feel free to PM if that's better. |
@audphile1 I am going to get the JC1 repaired. You are correct. I have too much money sunk into them and the mods to just walk away from them. They also sound stunningly good. Just a good excuse to pick up another amp for my rotation and/or backup. |
Have you looked into PS Audio's hybrid amps? I have a BHK 250 that sounds excellent with Scansonic MB3.5s, which have similar requirements as your Aerial Acoustics. The BHK 250 is on clearance now for ~$4k on PS Audio's site and a steal at its current price. There were also a used pair of BHK 300s that sold in the $6k range recently, so may be worth keeping an eye out for if you're set on going the mono route. The 6922 tube and its variants in the BHK 250 are fairly low maintenance, long-lasting and not too expensive unless you get into the rare and exotic tubes. I've had great results upgrading to Acme's silver fuses and tube rolling. I really like the ability to alter the amp's voicing, which may also appeal to you. |
@jaymark why not fix the parasound amp if you like the sound? |
@tvad haven’t seen you around the forums in ages! Hope you’re doing well!!! |
@big_greg the mods were extensive. I will look up the email that detailed them and post later. The mods took it well above its stock performance. @ hilde I sold the Spatials recently so they are no longer in my stereo graveyard. @ tvad I appreciate the amp recommendations and will do my due diligence on them. I suspect that I drank the Kool aid about believing higher powered amps sound better than lower powered ones of similar quality. Good to get the experienced input on this topic of "not so fast".....i have modded a lot of my equipment, however, I am willing to go higher up the food chain to get the type of performance I want sans mods |
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