Congratulations simeo. You have just made the 500th post.
In the UK, ALL the old Christmas songs get played to death at that time….every year. A custom of sorts. Who said nostalgia isn’t what it used to be?
Seriously though, l believe that the nostalgia question was an ironic joke at heart.
Yes Slade’s Christmas song will always be up there with the “Band Aid” and Wham numbers, and not forgetting old Bing, and Bing and David. Us Brits are gluttons for punishment over the “Atlantic Sea” as it was called in the musical “Hair”
Speaking of Slade, first discovered them 1972, "Slayed" album, loved the vibe of the band, none of my friends thought much of them. Slade didn't do particularly well here in US, sometimes US doesn't get certain Brit bands. Love the Christmas song, watch the videos repeatedly during the season, we didn't hear this back in day.
You are relying on Google AI too much. You don't know the entire story.
military classification of unfit for military service, and as it applied to Bruce it was because he failed the physical.
He failed not because of any 'physical' problem. He acted crazy and appeared to have mental problems. All a phony act.
Freehold did have the rug factory go out due to competition from Imports. They were forced to close. Bruce made THEM into the bad guys. As if they closed the factory just to hurt the local workers. It was a logical business decision they HAD to do. This happens everywhere not just Freehold.
It also was his Fathers decision to work there in the first place. He wasn't forced to go there. Bruce NEVER worked there.
However, that was just a small blip and Freehold continued to grow with 1000's of jobs in the area. Today it's better than ever including the second largest mall in the state. But Bruce focused his negativity toward ONE isolated Rug factory. The fact remains...he grew up in a nice area that got even nicer. He or his father could have worked in numerous other places.
Bruce is a Billionaire but he is not completely self made. Let's give some credit to the record company that picked him up off the street and marketed him to great success.
He has always been negative toward the country that gave him so much.
it would probably be helpful if some people understood the difference between the acts of draft evasion and draft resistance and showing up for the physical after getting the notice in the mail but not being selected for military service. And then probably it would be helpful to understand the difference between having your dad pay a doctor to write "a very strong letter" saying you have bone spurs and having your dad have you jumped to the head of the line to join the TANG in 1968 to fly the obsolete F-102 which was never going to see action in Vietnam.
l have missed all those others. Best that happened. Reading any longer posts my phone battery would probably have run out, or my own battery, and l would have fallen asleep before the end.
So seeing as you are a newbie and out of interest l read your previous posts. After reading all 4 of them, my opinion is that REO was an odd choice as it has speed in it.
So seeing as you are a newbie and out of interest l read your previous posts. After reading all 4 of them, my opinion is that REO was an odd choice as it has speed in it.
This post aroused my interest, @mylogic, and I will only say (from a bit of experience) that cannabis products and most central nervous system stimulants are generally two different animals.
Everyone to there own vices. I was just seeing the REO Speedwagon funny side and hope others “get” my odd sense of humour.
l will say from some perspective on the two different “animals” and from personal experience. At lot of mental health problems in the UK are linked to humans becoming animals after partaking in excessive “recreational hobbies”
Sometimes people just dismiss it and laugh it off, but with my own family incident, there is one less person in it now.
@mylogic A Philadelphia R&B group called The Top Notes originally recorded Twist and Shout in 1961. It was a hit for The Isley Brothers in 1962. This was the version that the Beatles emulated in 1963. In this case, emulate is a euphemism for murder. Don't ask a question if you don't want people to answer.
Far from it l do want answers. I love to learn from an informed answer. No problemo.
In truth you caught me ever so much out and you are entitled to say The Beatles murdered the song. You also proved my theory right. They covered another artists song. Eureka moment for me, thank you ever so.
lt was probably after Twist and Shout The Beatles started to write more of there own songs and certainly post Rubber Soul. So many Lennon McCartney songs and consecutive number ones (8 l believe in the UK until Ticket to Ride) make people believe they wrote everything themselves. I fell into this trap too, hands up.
Not that you were addressing this to me, but I'll chime in anyway and offer a short answer: I used to listen to REO and Styx and Kansas and Boston and bands such as those in the late '70s and early '80s, and it is not so much that I am irritated by them now-a-days, but to me their music/lyrics no longer seems to have any depth. (I don't mean depth in a literal sense.) That would be my short answer. However, just because my tastes have changed with the passage of time, and although I have made some judgmental comments on this thread, I truly don't condemn anything that someone else appreciates just because I don't care for it.
I won’t take any insult from that. But I cannot precisely put my finger on and articulate why I no longer like REO/Boston/Kansas/Styx/Alice Cooper/BTO/Nazareth/Head East/AC DC/etc except to say I no longer hear anything at all in the music that they produced that means anything to me or talks to me in any way. I can do a much better job of explaining why it is that I enjoy the music of the artists that I do like. But I realize that taste in probably everything is subjective and personal, and who am I to say what is right or wrong for anyone besides myself.
. . . I don’t find their music to be honest or dishonest. I just don’t find their music to be anything at all. And I guess somewhere I must have missed the implication that you were falling in love with me.
@mahgisterhas the same logic as you. He has stated he knows more about why he loves some artists music than the reasons why he dislikes certain other artists.
l think we just grow out of some artists but only the great ones remain long term. That’s why the charity shops in the UK have loads of the same discarded artists on their shelves. I collect Original Soundtracks and l can guarantee when l look in charity shops over here l can always find multiple copies of “Titanic” “The Bodyguard” and “Gladiator”
Pop music is no different….Robbie Williams, Take That, Christine Aguilera, Shania Twain. No Beatles or Stones EVER.
This discussion is red hot today. Nearly 1000 visits l noticed just in one day. Over 22,000 to date.
Re: REO - no, their music and lyrics are not exactly the deepest (even so.ething as catchy as "One Lonely Night" repackaged a well worn trope in shiny new paper) but they produced some Hella catchy tunes thatre still anthemic 40 years later.
but they produced some Hella catchy tunes thatre still anthemic 40 years later.
@simao that may be the reason that going back in time I truly enjoyed cranking it up and listening to them. And as I typed a few posts ago, despite some of my baiting and judgmental previous posts, taste in music and many other things is personal and subjective, and although I like what I like and don't like what I don't like, I totally understand that what is right or wrong for me is not automatically right or wrong for anyone else.
If i love something i can ponder and probe without end the multiple reasons for my ecstasy or love...
I can even write poetry about the music i love...
If i dislike music or someone or worst if i hate it or him, i cannot even begin to think one second about my object hate or dislike or rejection and their causes...
It is normal to dislike some music or persons...
The problem is hate makes us more stupid than we are...
And makes us unable to discover sometimes the real reason behind our hate of some music or person...
It is why i entertain no grudges and i tried to be fair with the music i did not like much...
But nobody is perfect and i really dont like some music...And those who persist in hate...I like reason, and music full of creative and spiritual meanings...
but the pleasure of one is the hell of another...
One of my friend was a jail advisor for the inmates...
We discussed a lot...
And i asked to him what music will create an immediate riot in jail ?
@immatthewj How ridiculous. Heck, even Bruce admits he dodged the draft. LOL
Go ask your best friend, Google... here's the answer... "Yes, Bruce Springsteen was a "stone-cold draft dodger" who avoided the Vietnam War draft. He admitted to using various tactics to avoid military service, including claiming to be high on LSD and exhibiting erratic behavior during his induction physical."
But immatthew doesn't like THAT answer so he wants to ignore the facts and change the definition.
FYI ... Just so you know, yes, I was there. I joined. I went. So don't tell me I don't know what a draft dodger is and don't make stupid attempts at changing the definition.
@mylogic, this is off the track of your OP, but kind of pertains to me trying to describe why I do not like the music I do not like.
Anyway, back in the '90s and through some of the '00s my dad would come a couple of thousand miles to visit us for Thanksgiving. Before he retired in '87 he was an art teacher and it was not just a job for a paycheck for him--he truly appreciated art. A true appreciation. (Go figure how the son of immigrants and who served in the Navy near the end of WW2 and worked for the railroad in Montana in the '40s while attending college would be an artsy guy, because I can't.) Anyway, I have almost zero appreciation for art beyond 'that picture is kind of pretty,' but seeing as how there is a world class museum near where we now live, I'd always take him there each time he visited, and he told me that it had some of the best art galleries he'd ever checked out. I would have preferred to look at Dinasaur bones or classic airplanes and stuff like that, but he would spend all day in the different galleries practically studying the exhibits. I remember once there was an exhibit of some Dutch guy (not Van Gough) he felt really privileged to have seen and I also remember he enjoyed looking at the Jackson Pollack stuff, and honestly it did nothing for me, so I generally kicked back and checked out eye candy. I will say that I had to appreciate some of the stuff that came out of, I think, the Renascence period--the minute incredible detail they put into those huge paintings must have taken forever. Regardless, I just could not understand what made most of that stuff art worthy.
I remember once there was an Andy Warhol exhibit we were looking at, and it included a case of tomato soup, and on that I guess I started badgering him and wouldn't let up. Basically: "What makes that art and why would they put it in a museum and why would anyone go out of their way to a museum to look at it?"
He expressed annoyance or irritation or frustration with me, but he could not answer my question. Although I am sure that there is an answer. But he couldn't explain it.
FYI ... Just so you know, yes, I was there. I joined. I went. So don’t tell me I don’t know what a draft dodger is and don’t make stupid attempts at changing the definition.
@gdaddy1, you are ridiculous and you do not know what a draft dodger is. But if you are hung up on the definition of a word that actually has no formally recognized definition (unlike draft resistance or draft evasion or draft avoidance) then I guess that makes you a draft dodger because you avoided the draft by joining the navy. Like many other kids did during that time period. Like the way GW Bush avoided the draft by getting jumped in front of a long line to join the TANG. But I am not going call you or them draft dodgers.
Although Bruce is mistaken about the use of a word that is not a legal term and has no legal definition, Bruce is brutally honest about what he did in 1968, unlike Cadet Bonespurs who "had a very strong letter." Before that, Fat Donnie lied and claimed he had a lottery number ’the likes of which no one had ever seen before.’
And seeing as how talking your way out of the draft wasn’t incredibly easy during the Vietnam War, no one except those who were in the room during that physical truly know what went down, regardless of what Bruce’s misguided guilt compels him to say. And if he would have passed the physical and not been 4-Fed? He says he wasn’t going to go, but since that didn’t happen no one will ever know since quite often people say one thing, but when push actually comes to shove they take a different course of action.
Go ask your best friend, Google... here’s the answer... "Yes, Bruce Springsteen was a "stone-cold draft dodger" who avoided the Vietnam War draft. He admitted to using various tactics to avoid military service, including claiming to be high on LSD and exhibiting erratic behavior during his induction physical."
And thanks for including part of the quote that I provided in my previous post and coming off as if you are the great discoverer of the truth. Give me a break.
So continue on with your snowflake rage against Bruce and keep pumping yourself up with your nationalistic pride.
Nothing says old and out of touch like listing all the music you hate. I don’t mean this lightly. No coincidence you see the high end audio industry dying off with its community members and why the youth or women seldom take on the interest. Look what would be awaiting, tired old has beens gate keeping their status quo, not quite the rebel that led you to fall in love with your music in the first place. Knocking music, an artist or entire genres is to miss the entire point of music. For all the stuff you like there is an entire generation before you that said your music was crap. That is not to say there is stuff I don’t like but I can appreciate artistic effort behind it. Many modern music is far more advanced then the older music. If you think it’s all electronics then your clueless. Most music you hold so dear wasn’t even written by the artist who made the music, bands were slapped together by record labels and people ignorantly think this was the golden age of music. This is nothing more than an admission the art, technology, creativity has passed you by and you no longer recognize it when you hear it.
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