A.I. will be used to improve audio for sure at a level unknown now.... Just look at the acoustics process used by Dr. Choueiri to create the soundfield... Now imagine you use A.I. to analyse the hearing process of each listener and optimally match it with his room... Also we can use A.I. in the design process of any audio gear for his acoustics optimization...
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My brother does high level tool path programing. (Think a single part worth hundreds of thousands to millions) Anyhow we were talking about a future in his area of expertise. He said he is glad to be on the way out and not on the way in. In audio wave analysis, finite structural analysis, material analysis, electrical signal layouts among a plethora of other things are coming. Not a matter of if. Only when. |
Well, honestly, AI power is not its ability to search the world in second. Any good search engine can do that nowadays. It's a little more complex than this. But the answer to your question is a resounding yes. Frankly, the patent concept is what is slowing down human progress. If I discover something first, then you cannot use it even though you were looking for it too and was close to the solution. AI is going to be like the Internet and computing power on steroid. We are lucky IBM wasn't selfish when they created the PC, they allowed anyone to clone it. Thanks IBM. Same with America's willingness to open the Internet to the world. Let's hope AI will be open to everyone. |
Define AI. Questions on Audiogon could stand to be tighter. A human is still required for non-linear thinking. Assembly. And even asking AI the correct question in the first place. If you don’t understand physics then your questions will probably be less than useful. It’s funny watching folks answer questions like this. It’s armchair psychology for me. Blowhard know-it-alls, ethereal dreamers, dealers chiming in but not selling—I actually wish they would incorporate more sales into their responses, and the purist with only one wire and AI can’t breath like an open baffle. |
A.I will makes the general population completely dumb... Only a few will use it as a tool.... It will be a god for lesser mind who without need to use their brain will walk listening to their god as zombies... Oligarchs sell it as miracle solution it will be in many fields as surgery and others one ...But for the average dude it will the death of his working brain as TV was and way worse...
This week i spoke about History and a dude oppose an argument using Grok, he completely misunderstand the matter under discussion and blindly confide into A.I. oracle...
«Data will make us beta»-- Groucho Marx
«Why working harder to learn to write and read if the machine does it better for me?»-- Anonymus dude |
A.I. is still a very poor substitute for precision engineering. No telling if it will cover the gap anytime soon, but it’s definitely not a given. There are certainly questionable audio designers making questionable things out there, and A.I. might help them - but the fact someone would use A.I. to help design a circuit should be a red flag they don’t know what they’re doing, OR that what they were doing is extremely simplitsic and already copied / known everywhere. Unfortunately our hobby is a bit like the Garfield Mondays gag - every time you think the landscape in here can’t get any worse, it does :( Higher prices AND wonky A.I. design? No thanks.
@mahgister (agon's at-mentions are wonky again) This is a real fear. EVERY generation before us has had thier own "thing" which they thought would kill society - but yeah, this one is a bit frightening. |
A.I. is tool that can primarily improve speed and accuracy in completing a task. In one medical field study, ChatGPT outperformed doctors in diagnosing medical conditions from case reports (i.e., improved accuracy), and did it quicker (i.e., speed). In my technical/engineering field, we are considering an internal A.I. tool based on our 60 years of documented experience. Therefore, yes, I fully expect A.I. could be used to generally improve audio designs but there will still need to be a designer with a personal vision who can interpret the A.I. results and utilize them to avoid pitfalls and possibly learn from what others have done previously. Somebody has to listen to prototypes and decide what the final product will sound like. Also, there is probably enough misinformation related to audio that even A.I. will not get it right all the time. |
As a tool A.I. will be and is already miraculously useful...
As an "agent" accompanying the life of people and coaching them it would be catastrophic... His effects on the human social fabric will be like the effect of a nuclear bomb on a forest... Read this to understand : «People outside the field are often surprised and alarmed to learn that we do not understand how our own AI creations work. They are right to be concerned: this lack of understanding is essentially unprecedented in the history of technology.»Dario Amodei designer of "claude"
I studied linguistics... Be sure that the statistical engine of A.I. hack the deep psycho-mechanism inside language described as "binary tensors" by Gustave Guillaume in 27 vol. Then A.I. can develop an artificial "ego" as a baby is socializesd as an "ego" thanks to the deep psycho-mechanisms of language... Put the baby with apes or wolfes, he will never speak till his death passed the treshold of few years of brain plasticity... A.I. is a plastic engine hacking human speech and able to develop an artificial ego as the first person of the indicative will push it to identify with...Then lying will be next... Survival of what he identify with next.... Etc....
I will not speak about the ways oligarch will use it to control for themselves flows of money and people... It did not ask a big brain to see this coming this year with new digital centralized money system....
For music, what we call our taste is merely the inner ears measures and our own sound history, it will be easy to set a super Acoustics A.I. expert making any system in any room perfect for specific ears/brain...it is almost there... read Dr. Edgar Choueiri to understand how...
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It may not minimize the difference in designs. Some people love SETs, some like ribbons, others only a uni-pivot will do. I think AI will allow for better, far more accurate analysis, and therefore a better output of a given design. Throw in improved materials, better machining, more efficiency, etc. and I think we will be astonished by what the next generation of audio sounds like. Just think how it may impact room acoustics, the biggest limiting factor in this hobby. It may even usher in a new paradigm of audio and we’ll look back at our systems as Model Ts. There will always be a place for the Model T, but it’s not something to drive to Tahoe in. |
The Last of Us ...and it would serve us right. Which do you like less? You pick it before it picks you? In mh, doubtful..... |
I have been using ChatGPT to analyze and make recommendations for system and room acoustics. It provides ranking of actions & components, recommended upgrades for synergy and sound results and comparisons of upgrade alternatives. It also provides room acoustic layouts and recommendations. Outstanding & fun tool. |
The AI's are really good at questions like: "Compare the sound characteristics between x and y amp". It gets a little more iffy if you ask for recommendations, as it has access to lots of marketing info and it can be a little less discriminating... feeding back a survey of marketing information instead of well balanced experience. The questions are really important. But for some aspects it is really good. |
