Most people could care less about specs and measurements. They just buy what they like based of whatever criteria they want and some companies just rely on that and marketing to sell stuff. Happens here all the time...surprise!.
That's the way most people buy most things and why advertising and PR have more influence on the general market than do logic or value. One would hope, however, that people with a deep interest and enthusiasm in a hobby might be more reflective. Guess not.
If your talking about the in depth detail that Stereophile go into when they measure speakers, it's because most don't have that kind of expensive measuring equipment/room, just the basics.
Sad, imho, but true. OTOH, there are many that do have the measurements but won't divulge them and others that are large/successful enough to do so but choose not to. |
If your talking about the in depth detail that Stereophile go into when they measure speakers, it's because most don't have that kind of expensive measuring equipment/room, just the basics.
Great answer. Nice to know the speaker companies dont have that kind of equipment. |
I get that measurements aren't everything but they're a useful guide if you're looking for something specific, particularly as it's not that easy to walk into a showroom at the moment. What measurements beyond the standard power, efficiency, physical dimensions etc. do you think are missing? |
Why wont speaker companies publish their measurements?
If your talking about the in depth detail that Stereophile go into when they measure speakers, it's because most don't have that kind of expensive measuring equipment/room, just the basics. Cheers George |
Many companies do publish useful measurements to help people choose. Stick with those if desired.
Also Stereophile and other orgs actually measure gear they review including speakers.....also useful.
Most people could care less about specs and measurements. They just buy what they like based of whatever criteria they want and some companies just rely on that and marketing to sell stuff. Happens here all the time...surprise!.
Different strokes for different folks. Nothing special to see here. But that won’t stop Kenjit I’m sure. The world is imperfect and just cannot seem to serve a self-proclaimed expert like him well and he wants everybody to hear how an expert like him who is all knowing is so totally lost and confused. Go figure! Poor little guy!
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Mine does i HAVE MAGICO the best!! |
Even though it's a rambling ego centric post I agree about speaker companies not showing measurements of their speakers. You can find some on various websites and magazines but it would be nice if companies posted measurements. Measurements can be helpful in narrowing down what you're looking for. Wide or narrow directivity, flat FR, distortion % in the woofers. |
I am taking the position that, while Kenjit may be pushing his arguments way beyond reasonable limits (as he is wont to do), his criticism of the speaker companies to not publish standardized measurements is valid.
No one should dispute the right and the necessity for a buyer to audition speakers before making a choice. OTOH, the manufacturer’s withholding of objective data is unfair and insulting. |
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Don't know what you're talking about kenjit, Tekton publishes their speaker measurements. The Moab for example is 14x17x69.
Recently ordered some Townshend Podiums for them and so I checked and can verify the accuracy of those measurements.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another way to look at it is, a butterfly is beautiful, so what ate my plum trees the year before.. little suckers. They start out one way and end up another.. People are the same way... Monsters behind a keyboard.. Wonderful folks in public... Go figure.. Regards |
The Revel Salon Ultima 2 has near perfect measurements. While they sound good and I like them I have never found them as engaging as some brands that don't measure near as well (wilson, Sonus Faber, etc) |
I've read this book before. A classic. Viz., "I am a sick man....I am a spiteful man....But do you know, gentlemen, what was the chief point about my spite? Why, the whole point, the real sting of it lay in the fact that continually, even in the moment of the acutest spleen, I was inwardly conscious with shame that I was not only not a spiteful but not even an embittered man, that I was simply scaring sparrows at random and amusing myself by it." https://www.gutenberg.org/files/600/600-h/600-h.htm |
If they did give you the numbers, and they were what you liked, what would you do if the speakers still sounded BAD to you?
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bluemoonriver: "I will propose to a future wife based on measurements only. What could possibly go wrong?" Haha........(two years later) "but I thought this relationship would last, your measurements are great!"
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Well, I just hope that this speaker "war" doesn't escalate to the nuclear level.....this could result in the virtual destruction of ALL speakers. Then we would be in trouble. Meanwhile, all of us can take comfort in the fact that any of us can easily get "measurements" of width, height, depth, and weight. |
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To the OP, what measurements are you going to accept as true representation of the speaker?
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Of course, measurement is all! I will propose to a future wife based on measurements only. What could possibly go wrong?
(it must be something to do with what is measured...) |
But it is Groundhog's Day tomorrow.
We're all gonna feel like Bill Murray. |
@jenkit You’re 2 months early for April fools day. |
Most listeners are not trained. They dont have the skills or knowledge of an expert like me to know what the hell they are listening for. Priceless, from Qaudio. |
And most designers know it.
The only hogwash around here is...
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chasing numbers doesn't get you good audio. |
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