The measurements more closely align with the magic quotient of 1.6. Yours is 1.39. I'm not sure how much it means. But It may be worth a try. |
@artemus_5 Magic quotient of 1.6? Do you happen to have a link where I can read up on it? |
yes w a dipole….
what is the ceiling ? |
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@tomic601 The ceiling height is 8 ft |
Have a large front room with 16” or so vaulted ceilings,
left speaker opens to open hallway, staircase, right speaker has pillows and such behind it, as it’s in a corner, so soaking up the bass is important to the right side.
Had main system in basement for years, then moved to upstairs room. Sounded better in basement with drop ceiling, but the larger room is amazing! I have small towers mentioned by many on here as “firewood” compared to the amps I’m using for them.
Sure give it a try, see how it sounds,..
if you don’t like it, move it back.
I love mucking around with my gear,…….gives me an excuse to not listen to the wife’s barking orders.
“Sorry, honey, I’m setting up audio” |
Yes move it :-))) revel in the space and freedom, while you have it
there are some online free calculators for rectangular room nodes, check those out to see what you might be dealing with, and listen :-))))) you are on a good path |
A dipole loudspeaker in a 10' x 12' room?!
A room with an 18' length is obviously more appropriate. That will allow the MMG's to be placed 5' from the wall behind them, 8' from the listening position, the listening position 5' from the wall behind it.
Before having your MMG's gunned, try to listen to the Eminent Technology LFT-8b, also a magnetic-planar dipole (though with a sealed dynamic woofer for 180Hz down), but one considerably superior to the MMG, even with the latter having been gunned. |
@bdp24 Even though it is 10x12, the maggies are currently 4 ft off the front wall and my listening position is 4 ft off the back wall. The tweeters are to the inside and my ears are 5 ft from the tweeters. I've heard some gunned MMGs and after hearing them, I decided to mod mine. I use two subs in my system so I'm good on the low end. |
I have the same sized room and have a floor stander in there along with 9 GIK panels. It is my office and I can do whatever I want. The thing that made the speakers work in the room was getting a professionally created $750 Convolution filter (DSP) to run on my ROON server, which is a few room away.
This filter smoothed out the frequency curve of the speakers and just made the room sing.
www.AccurateSound.ca |
You're listening near field, which is great. Moving to a larger space will change the presentation. I think you'll like the increased dimensionality.
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"A dipole loudspeaker in a 10' x 12' room?!"
Yes. I am in a similar sized converted bedroom and have managed to get very good performance from my Innersound Isis. 7 feet between the speakers and 7 feet to the listening chair. 30 inches to the front walls. The one big compromise is very little room between the chair and the back wall. Experimenting with Ted's HFT devices (and vibration control in general) has helped immensely in this regard.
That being said, if I were in the OP's shoes, I would take that extra square footage in a New York minute. |
yep………in 1 second…and the work and experiment will make you a better listener…..have fun |
Yes, a larger room will be better, especially since you have Magneplanars. |
yes, do it... sound should improve |
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Looks like I will be moving my system into the larger room. Hopefully, the room treatment I bought will also work in the space. |
I would definitely live/listen in the larger space, and sleep in the smaller space.
Switch, PITA, but well worth it. Get rid of/sell some stuff first, makes it easier!
Office Work? Computer Time? TV? |
dbp24 has it 100% correct. |
Larger rooms are almost always better unless something very unique is wrong with the large room. Why are they usually better? Boundaries are further away!
Brad
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For a 10x12 room, I would suggest placing 8 to 10 artificial ficus 5' trees behind, between and beside the speakers and one on each side and slightly in front of the listening position. Maybe one behind the listening position. These will break up room reflections and improve the sound quality of your room.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.... I know the room will look like a section of the equatorial Brazilian rain forest, but will improve the sonic characteristics of the room.
Even if you do move to a bigger room, using these artificial ficus trees will diffuse the sound for a tenth of the cost of a basic room acoustic treatment. |
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Switching rooms would be a PITA, but is it worth doing? Oh good Lord yes!!! And even more so with your speakers. You can do all the mods you want, but the room will still be the largest contributor to what you ultimately hear. And although changing rooms may be a bit of a PITA, it’s still free! How many substantial sonic upgrades can you say that about in this stupid hobby? |
The dept of the room is very important:( you do speaking here of ft. instead of meters in the US). Take than the room with the largest dept -side, (speakers on the shortest wall ) otherwise you can have more resonance. (And give your “basses” come across as woolly) . Try it out : the sound will be different. And take the room that sounds best to you ! Enjoy your music ! |
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Yes it would be well worth it to get your speakers away from the walls. 10x12 is simply too small for good sound in absolute terms. Does not mean a 10x12’ room will not sound enjoyable to you. |
as others have said, a 10x12 room to me really only works for semi nearfield listening... e,g, a 6 ft listening triangle... not workable w maggies even little ones |
@james663 In my 10x12 room, the maggies are actually 4 ft off the wall. I basically have a near field setup. I think it sounds good, but I'm gonna switch to the larger room and give it a try. I've spent a good chunk of change upgrading my system over the past 6 months, so I want it to sound the best it possibly can!! |
Bigger is NOT always better IME... The larger room may well be better, but there are a number of variables that come into play. One of the variables has already been mentioned, and that is the ceiling height. If the ceiling height is the same in both rooms, then that would play to the larger room. Another variable is what are the walls like, are they at angles? Do they have a lot of glass/ windows vs. less glass/window in the small room. How quiet is the surrounding space? Lots of variables.
If all else is equal, then I would say definitely go for the larger room, but things are not usually equal. Let your ears decide.
In my room, which is about the same size as your current one, ( actually a little smaller..10X11) I enjoy a vault ceiling to 13’. The vault is the saving grace. The room sounds far better than my prior room which was 15’ X 25’ and with an 8’ ceiling...off the kitchen.
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The 13 by 18 room would sound way better for your maggies set up on the 13 foot wall assuming you have two solid right angle corners in it.
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@speakermaster There is a closest door in one of the corners. I do have some bass traps delivering in a few weeks |
