lonemountain

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How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
Asking the question "What is efficient enough?" brings up mutiple challenges.  the first being hardly anyone listens much over 90dB SPL!    I was at AXPONA this weekend and in our room we are demong ATC.  I meassuredIf  the SPL when things got "l... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@daveyf One of my points is that this very issue of "what amp is enough?" is based around very fuzzy poorly defined/poorly understood info about speaker efficiency, Would you call a 90dB SPL 1w/1m speaker efficient or not? Brad  
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
Is the entire "speaker efficiency" conversation motivated by passions and opinions about the free choice of amplifiers -not speakers ?  Brad   
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@phusis My argument is that this efficiency as it relates to speaker performance is a complex issue, much more than a simple number. You forget I am engaged with dealers and end users who ask these questions (and similar ones) quite often. The d... 
Geddes multiple subwoofer method - 3 subs vice 4
I agree with Geddes and this he is one of the few out there with the right idea.   ATC has always agreed with "don't insert another filter in a very audible place" idea when adding a sub.   Our efforts on the pro side with multiple subs have work... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@rauliruegas Very good point and great example that there is more to know about a speaker than a 1w/1m spec. Could a 86dB 1w/1m speaker with a very flat impenace curve  outperform a 91db 1w/1m speaker with a wildy changing impedance curve? Yes. ... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@rauliruegas  it’s true - I am ATC USA and do not want to hide that.   Previously I’ve worked for EV (their rep out of Chicago including OEM)and JBL (in charge of cinema and installed sound in the USA)and now ATC ( I’m the importer for both pro a... 
What makes a good hotel speaker?
It is indeed set up and knowledge of rooms.  It's amazing how some exhibitors focus on cables and source but set up speakers improperly.   If you walk in a hotel room and see a speaker being demoed right next to or up against a wall, know that th... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
I suspect the $4,000 price claimed is not real- likely seen by atmasphere  somewhere on the resale market because the product is long discontinued.   That price is not representative of what it really sold for back when it was made or what current... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
Again: efficiency is just ONE aspect out of many that has to be addressed in high performance loudspeaker design.  High performance drive units are so much more complicated than "how loud they are", with so many more aspects to them than efficienc... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@atmasphere  Im going to depart with your thinking when you say things like "There are attempts to get around the thermal compression problem with lower efficiency speakers, such as vented pole pieces and the like. The incentive is high because ... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
Can we say then that efficiency in speakers is not the #1 goal?  That the idea that dynamic range is improved or noise floor is changed due to speaker efficiency alone is simply not true?  While there may be examples that support this idea, there ... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@daveyf You are right about the amp issues regarding hi vs lo efficiency designs, well said. Yes, a low efficiency design might require more power.  But these issues are truely complex and trying to make a blanket statement that some performance... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
Again Speaker sensitivty alone is not an indicator of quality or sonic virtue in loudspeakers.  I can think of other values that might be related to sonic virtue, such as widely varying impedance (in a passive design), high distortion, limited di... 
How important is the efficiency of a speaker to you?
@phusis Nicely written! I enjoy your perspective. When you say that efficiency is not the most important aspect of performance, you and I are on the same page. I disagree that efficiency is the "preferred route" in achieving lower distortion, im...