Quick question for the Cables Don't Make a Difference Crowd.


Quick question for the Cables Don't Make a Difference Crowd. 

Why don't you all just completely eliminate cables by buying an all in one with powered speakers using Wi-Fi or BT?  

tkrtrb125

My minimalist mantra is less or no wire between components is best. Wires are not rocket science. Keep it simple! Yes they can sound different but if the rest is done right then who cares? Not me. Most any good quality wire will do. I don’t want fancy wires coloring my sound. Could be due to my upbringing in Amish Country. Go wireless! Amazon is your wire friend.

Pros: elegancy; space saving

Cons: expensive; you won't be able to show off your cables / gears other than expensive Dan D’Agostino Master & D&D 8c

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I acknowledge cables can sound different, with some better than others, subjective to system synergy.  But after 35 + years in the hobby and spending thousands in cables, I've acquired enough first hand experience to know I no longer have to spend a lot of money on cables to get good sound.   Simply said, expensive cables don't necessarily translate to better sound.

Honestly, I feel quite certain that many if not all of the cables “denialists” here can easily hear the difference between divergent cable designs especially comparing high purity copper to high quality silver ( especially if from the same company) n their systems if they would honestly give the comparison a try.  Otherwise you”re just trolling!

You could probably get good results by minimizing unnecessary cabling and shortening signal paths a lot.

Get a competent streamer+ddc+dac+linestage combo unit from a manufacturer who knows what he is doing. Run it to some proficiently designed powered speakers (Elac Navis, Meyer, Meridian, whatever). All you would need is a pair of interconnects and a power cable, I suppose.

A power cable only needs to have good shielding so it doesn’t turn into an antenna/let any noise leech back in after your power got conditioned by a power conditioner. A power cable does not need to cost 10k, it can be 100 bucks off aliexpress.

Excessive separates bibilly boobilly (i,e., 15 different boxes and cables strung all around to play a damn song) can/will often fail in execution.

Good luck.

I've been away for a while, but it's good to see that the ol' standards are still playing on the Forum. Cables -- REAL! Cables -- SNAKE OIL! 

Backyard fighting, audiophile style.

But where's the joy in any of it?

@jji666 They sound fantastic, what inspired me was all naysayers who get chirpy on all these cable threads. So with that logic your cables must sound really bad that you responded.

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/dutch-dutch-8c-powered-loudspeaker-with-dsp-and-bacch-processing/

So I will just tune you blokes out now.

 

Your cables can’t sound that great if you got bored enough to post that.

Besides, most skeptics of cables have a more nuanced view than your post implies. 

@helomech I did and makes perfect sense no cables, no interconnects, or speaker cables. Just a couple of power cords. Tell me I am wrong? It would be utopia for the Naysayers like yourself? @jasonbourne71 and maybe @abnerjack.

Me I love my expensive cables. 

 

Do a blind listening test. The brain is easy to fool when the eyes are involved.

I, too, felt that a cable shouldn't make a significant difference in sound quality...

But, I had the chance to demo the (then) new Audioquest cables by Garth Powell.

It was clear that they did make a difference, and for the better. It was a simple A/B test.

Bob

I detect an attitude.

 

Well fact is I do have several systems built around integrated devices. Not having to deal with wires because the engineers already did is a bonus.   I don’t miss having to deal with wires one bit.  It’s a total non issue.  DSP is a much more powerful tweak. 

@helomech  Sorry I didn't see your post before I made mine.  Maybe this will help the OP with the thinking.

@tkrtrb125 Your question makes no sense.  Different cables might not make a difference sound wise, but they are necessary for separate components.  Naysayers would say that once you recognize the need for cables they all sound alike.  You're asking whether all-in-one solutions sound better than separates.  Some argue that the all-in-one is superior because it eliminates many connections.  

@stereo5 how about you try it? I was just curious as it seems logical if I were of that mindset. .

Because none of them have enough inputs and loops for me.

Nothing to do with cables.

whether cables do or don't make any difference, definitely I'm not the one spending more than $200 total on all cables I need including speaker cables.