Prospectives on Chi-Fi

Is Mandarin hard to learn?

The little orange?

No, you peel it and eat the inside. Make sure the rind is a tad loose, then you know it will be ripe and sweet.

I don’t care which country the component is from, I only care about price, performance, sometimes a company’s longevity and product reliability.  

I don’t penalize people for the government they are ruled under, most are not democratically elected so they have no choice.  I don’t blame the Russians for what Putin does, likewise I don’t do the same for China.  

Also, there are a lot of illegal clone products manufactured in China.  I don’t penalize legit Chinese companies who have nothing to do with this.  

Putting politics aside and just looking at the facts, this ship sailed a long time ago, when western based multinational corporations saw an opportunity to destroy unions and make products abroad and sell them at back home at a dollar on the cent of production labor. Anyone paying attention could see that capacity to make toasters and irons could quickly turn into the ability to make quality hifi gear, computers and sophisticated communications gear, and ships, planes and bombs (sorry about that dark turn).

Chinese factories have been building excellent consumer and midfi electronics for offshore brands for decades. And now as noted in the original reference, many of those old line hifi brands are now owned by the Chinese. If you look at the quality and performance of current Chinese designed and built gear, it is hard to fault their products in 2023.

It’s amusing to hear people now complaining about what many of us saw at the front end of the offshoring wave. I buy what I want and can afford. Just like s bunch of other people. A long time ago I got over the fact that many of the components inside the products I buy are made in China, if not entirely. Before riding your high horse here, look carefully at the components and source country of everything in your home and office.

kn

Hmmm.

Days gone by and crickets from jeffjerryjuanchicagoearlpunk.

No denial, no rebuttal, no refutation. Laying low I suppose hoping this gets forgotten.

Unsolicited advice;

If you're so desperate to be on this forum that you constantly have to make up new personas after being consistently banned, how about this; act like an actual adult and lay off the childish, abrasive insults and grade school mentality. But I admit given your track record, that may well be an impossibility.

@knownothing 

Perfectly said

+1 @thecarpathian 

Shijie, Eastman, Apple, Topping, etc…all great

Just received this delightful message from @jeffstrick .

As if we needed verification of the type of person he is:

"No was only doing this to bug the hell out of dicks like you.

I spend most of my time on forums where real audiophiles hang out. Not poor posers like you.

Enjoy your fiefdom.
You are more obsessed with me than I you. Get hobby and it cannot be me."

@audiobydesign

You are more obsessed with me than I you. Get hobby and it cannot be me.

Easier said than done when you just come back under a new guise and start the same old stuff. Even your sign offs like this one are more of the same. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Gee, I wonder “who” this is?

Just joined today. Hmmmmm, so hard to figure this out!

Funny. 

Maybe you douchebags should get a hobby!

caprnoisesuckdbagass

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05-03-2023 at 04:18pm

Funny.

Maybe you douchebags should get a hobby!

LOL!!! I could not help but laugh at the choice of the new username. Funny! Or sad?

I'm going with sad.

I really hope this guy seeks counseling.

Yeah but the “capr…” which should have been “carp…” was a significant miss thus nullifying any respect.

What is going on here with all these usernames??? I am really confused 😕hmmm. How many usernames you have / had here Jerry?

@juanmanuelfangioii ,

Goodbye, Cybil.

I hope you get the counseling you need.

Still here LOL so easy to bait.

Not for long...

audiobydesign, juanmanuelfangioii, jerry, skypunk, et al

All the best,
Nonoise

And just like that....GONE!

You literally have mental issues. Really, seek counseling.

Is it possible for an obscene screen name to be banned? I hope so.

@joebidenstaintlikedbynonoise 

All the best,
Nonoise

Just for my own information. How will I recognize one who keeps changing their username and posts stupid things again and again? Other than the very obvious "prospectives" instead of "perspectives ".

Poor old sod was truly taken aback by my last GIF and couldn’t make heads or tails out of it resulting in all the time it took him to regroup under a new name and respond. (nothingbuttheblues ain't gonna cut it, jerry)

All the best,
Nonoise

@2psyop All you need to do is right click on the name of the suspected member and click on "details". The date he joined and all contributions to posts and threads are there to see. "nothingbuttheblues" created his fake account just this morning.

All the best,
Nonoise

nonoise 

Thanks I will be on the lookout. Not sure why it's so hard to be civil and helpful??

for some here?

All  the best,
Nonoise

I try to buy US made even if it costs more.  This Nation once produced everything we bought/consumed and I for one am very distressed that we focus on service jobs but do very little manufacturing.  So if someone has the desire to build a quality product right here they will get my business.

(who is Lord Melton?)

OK, here's my 2 cents. In my audio journey, first decades ago in big 2-channel gear, and in the last 10 years, all desktop audio & headphone audio, I tend to follow talented designers and the companies they build to realize their own designs. And looking around my home office I see 3 examples of that:

• A NOS DAC/headphone amp/pramp and a headphone amp/preamp by Audio GD. The owner and chief designer, Kingwa, has some serious chops. I've owned at least 3 other of his components. Never a problem with any of them. He's a true original thinker;
• And a NOS DAC ("Orchid") by the owner & designer of MHDT Laboratories. This is a throwback modern DAC using an elderly chip (and sounding quite lovely)

I'm less concerned with the nationality of a designer than with his/her originality and personal commitment to the work. So far gear from China has served me very well, indeed.

Pretty much every electronic in my system is made in China.

Aside from the preamp (DIY Pass B1 on a true Pass PCB, but I’m sure some of the Chinese PCB copies are just as good).

I own a Chinese DAC (Gustard A18) with a Chinese made transport (Audiolab 6000CDT).

All my class D amps are Chinese

External linear PSUs are also Chinese

Hell, even my cables are (Xangsane SP9001Ag silver cable, various power cables, and knock off "Odin" speaker cables)

Oh, my active crossover (Sublime Acoustic K231) is made in the USA! ^^

So far (and it’s been years) I never had the slightest reliability issue. Also have a SMSL SU-8v2 DAC and SMSL amp in my bedroom system, same same, works great, sounds great for the price, and no issues whatsoever.

There was a time when I was using second hand stuff, from USA / UK / Japan, and reliability was a major PITA with some, because of age mainly - but yeah for a given budget one can only go so far.

I will buy Chinese again, for my meager budget the price / quality ratio is impressive.

@rolox  I assume you have put close to $5k in your main system? You never mentioned what speakers you own. Did you ever consider the Quad Artera series. Quad is one of the few Chinese made electronics/speakers I would consider. You get synergy without the complexity and Quad will always maintain some resale value regardless of where its manufactured.

@dayglow my speakers are DIY, fully horn loaded. Think Klipsch LaScala on steroids (read: better, bigger, meaner) with active crossover. I’ve been mentioning those many times ;-) also two large JMLab / Focal subs. Very impressive sounding system and sounds much better than what it costs! ^^

Recently snagged 4 huge Shroeder diffuser panels at a flea market (the seller thought those were old radiators ^^) and wow, there you go, HIGH END system with peanuts money! (I’m quite proud of it as you may have noticed)

cheers

@rolox    Thx for your reply. I misjudged the level of your system. If I was 30 years younger(still in my 20's) I would make an attempt at a DIY project but now I lack the patience/skill and desire to take on such a task.