Lord Melton's post has nothing to do with Chi-Fi. Just for the record, I was worse off under the prior administration. Even my paltry 2017 tax cut has expired.
Now for on-topic: My "American" branded Revel speakers are owned by a S. Korean conglomerate and manufactured in the PRC. My "Japanese" branded Rotel CD player was manufactured in the PRC. My "English" branded Cambridge Audio amp was manufactured in the PRC. My only non-Chi-Fi components are a 1978 vintage Philips turntable, made in Belgium, and a 1982 vintage Luxman tuner, made in Japan.
Who ultimately pushed for relaxing trade and manufacturing barriers? Western capitalists. Who suffered as a result, western workers. Who were the ultimate deciders? Western consumers. Now there are Chinese components in everything from Rolls Royces to $25 desktop chip amps. The interplay between the the Chinese and US economies is now equivalent to the "Balance of Terror" there used to be between the US and the USSR during the cold war.
1 I don’t know who lordmelton is ...but he sounds idiotic.
2 I have a Line Magnetic Audio Integrated amp and a Denafrips DAC, both have performed flawlessly and the LM was serviced with zero issues under warranty.
3 The US cut dirty deals with China over decades, not any one administration is at fault, many are.
It is so unfortunate, unnecessary, and unproductive to attack Lord Melton in this way. You must be afraid of something and perhaps many things have captivated your attention so as to distract you from truth.
Yes, the factual, obvious and nagging truth that the former guy has over 100 copyrights from China and he and his daughter had 18 fast tracked to them in 2 months time when he was in office. He always liked a sucker.
Living in South East Asia for 35 years and spending extended periods of time in Mainland China since the early '90s when you could only buy a black or brown pair of shoes and people were just transitioning from Chairman Mao's denim suits.
Urine and feces was still collected in buckets in the streets in the evening and shipped to the farms, flush toilets didn't exist outside of big hotels.
Western corporations have made trillions of dollars enslaving the Chinese peasants to work 50 weeks per year for a pittance, but China's main resource is people.
That's why you can get your Topping for chump change or why Apple can pocket billions and get their products made for slave wages.
Apple are now moving to India, Vietnam, Thailand etc., to mitigate the risk of long term employees wanting retirement and redundancy payments.
I could go on and on but Slavery 1.0 has come back to haunt you.
Slavery 2.0 will be a lot worse.
Chinese HIFI manufacturers aren't war-mongers but in China everything is State owned and just like the US uses your tax dollars for whatever it likes, with zero accountability, so can China.
On a positive note people who wear fake designer goods are a laughing stock. Wearing a fake Rolex shows you're a fool, so I have every confidence that people will forget the Chinese copies and low rent products and buy good gear.
Pride of ownership is an important part or our hobby.
Heard a cayin h80a hybrid integrated. It was fantastic sounding. You can tube roll the preamp section to your liking. What a bargain. sounded like a McIntosh only not as colored.
Denafrips T+ DAC made in China. World class quality and customer support from Vinshine Audio at a reasonable price. Most importantly; it sound’s amazing!
I have had my suspicions about the reasoning behind the Term Chi-Fi being used.
I have heard Dealers of Imports vehemently defend their Products and doing their best to alienate their own products, labeling them as a far superior Chi-Fi origin product than the usual to be found.
In my mind the Term commenced as being a means to suggest low quality, and not necessarily a Slur on the Nation.
Time can change things and the perspectives of thoughts once held. There is enough News Coverage to suggest that the Authorities in Western Countries are suspicious of China's Tech' Usage.
I'll leave concerns about this to other's, the following is a statement made by another, that does have a certain appeal.
"An ugly trend has developed on social media and in some audio forums regarding “Chi-fi” and we think there needs to be a wider community discussion about its use.
Whether we want to acknowledge or not, the use of the phrase “Chi-fi” has derogatory connotations. It was originally coined to reference the start-up Chinese audio industry and even then, it came with the understanding that the products being labeled as such were inferior to their more developed counterparts coming from the United States, Canada, U.K, France, Germany, Italy, Denmark, and Japan.
It parallels the early days of Japanese car sales in North America when it was not uncommon to hear them referred to as “Jap Junk” which was more blatantly racist and derogatory but also carried roughly the same sentiment.
For those who would argue that the term is merely a reference to where the products are being made, I ask the question, then why do we not have Kor-fi, Ger-fi, US-fi, and Jap-fi? We don’t identify other products by country of origin which goes to negate part of that argument.
The remainder of the argument can be quickly called out by the fact that people are quick to exclude certain Chinese-made products (HiFiMan as one example) as not qualifying as Chi-fi. If some products are excluded, what are the grounds for inclusion in the class? Obviously, it isn’t just the country of origin that is being used to make the distinction.
The term isn’t applied to Western brands whose products are produced in China. Many American, Canadian, and British brands have production facilities in China including KEF, NAD, Wharfedale, Quad, PSB, Cambridge Audio, Polk, and many others. Consumers seem perfectly fine buying those products manufactured in China because that reality saves them money.
What about companies that source parts from China but then assemble them elsewhere? "
@pindacIn the performance motorcycle and automotive circles it often is. "Yes, I have injectors available for popular, rice, pasta and kraut, burner's."
I even am a loyal Huawei user and can’t think of a better Phone for the money.
General day to day luxuries such as a owned TV, Fridge/Freezer, Oven, Hob, Microwave, Washing Machine, Toaster, could not function and be such useful ancillaries for a simplified life, if they were not produced with parts from China or even produced in China.
Items that I depend on to be quite safe such as My Vehicle, Bus, Train, Aeroplane, Medical Equipment would not be with Trusted and Dependable reputations unless there was something going on within their function that has been produced in China.
It does seem quite strange there is a strong suggestion from those who feel seemingly threatened by the pricing to be found from Audio Products produced in China, that the items on offer are failures and should be overlooked in favour of Products Produced in China, but with this part of the Products History attempted to be concealed.
Yup, same old tool under a new handle. Using his older persona to vent the same juvenile responses while languishing under his new one. This won't last long.
Who would think that using a photo of a cute dog would fool anyone when he posts the same way? It's the same, tired and old MO that he uses over and over. There has to be more in life.
Time for you and your falter ego to say bye-bye for now.
In case anyone is wondering WTF is going on, juanmanuelfangioii started out like jeffstrick, being nice and polite while he inserted his venom into his posts only to get uglier and uglier as time went on. The same went for his other attempts. It always centered around the same topics that he lost the arguments over. He'd just come back, like a vengeful Phoenix, rising from the ashes, only to go down in flames again.
As members here noticed the trend, they'd call him out on it and then the lid came off as his id exploded with his childish vulgarities and attitude. Soon his posts will vanish, like a fart in the breeze, only to come back later under another avatar.
He's already signed off on another thread, decrying his situation but rest assured, he's sitting there, waiting for a response, so he can be his true self again. Get some popcorn and smoke 'em if you got 'em.
We do have the ability to buy less from China. Getting some things from China doesn't mean you have to buy everything from China. There are plenty of companies in the US, Canada, Italy, France, Germany, etc manufacturing hi-fi gear in their own country of parts sourced mainly from their country. There are US companies that make toaster ovens, sheet pans, clothing, furniture, etc. I don't think having values and following them is virtue signaling. That's a put down. Buy Chinese if you want. Don't have to criticize those who do not do so to the best of their ability. There was a pre-walmart world at one time.
Good work guys! I have to say though that of all his alter egos, I dislike juanmanuelfangioli the most.
You are so snagged pal!
Nailed, scaled and derailed!
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