Poor Fritz


There’s no better value and no one as willing to make bespoke speakers out there than Fritz and these forums treat his speakers as if they cost $200K.
They don’t. They are remarkably affordable and yet potential customers put him through the absolute ringer, asking for custom features, going through 2 or 3 models of home auditions and maybe not even buying any of them.

Look, you buy what you want to buy, but I think not enough credit is given to the man or his speakers in terms of the overall value proposition and I think this is a disservice overall.  If you write a 5 page review, please keep this very much in mind that you are not reviewing Wilson or Focal's flagships.  Maybe he doesn't deserve quite the same scrutiny.

erik_squires
Thank you to everyone who has given kenjit fuel to derail yet another thread and turn it into Kenjit theater.

Your constant stream of engagement has turned this thread into something far from the helpful positive place I tried to start it.

Please, take a bow people.
Erik

If you have that option I would shut this thread down as whatever your intended purpose was that is not what has happened.  This from a Carrera Be owner.  He's not going to stop and the rest of the crowd can't seem to help themselves.  He is here because he would have and probably has been banned from every other respectable forum a long time ago.  
jjss49,
Just so you know, I very courteously suggested the same thing about a week ago, and my post was removed by the moderators. I have no idea why they would defend him. 
Hey @Roxy54
The moderators rarely moderate.  They automatically remove anything flagged.  Ask GeorgeHiFi how much fun that is to play. Hahahah.
Maybe start a more positive thread with something other than Poor Fritz, and redirect attention there.  A request to a moderator could delete this one. 
Decooney is absolutely right... 

OP, you laid the groundwork for this... 

Now take your ball and go home. 
@jjss49 and @erik_squires make valid points. 

I've removed my trollfood posts, in hopes of cleaning up the thread a little bit. 

Duke
audiokinesis

I can absolutely understand the attraction to responding, especially as a maker. 

Erik
This is a thread that shoukd of never been started. Poor fritz. What was the point of this, if everybody started one of these it would be forums full of crap. Yeah fritz and many others have great speakers...as does LSA as his monitors are a clone of the 4x the price PUlsars. 
if everybody started one of these it would be forums full of crap.



Oh man, this advice is waaaaay too late for this place.

Ahahahahahaha.
Maybe start a more positive thread with something other than Poor Fritz, and redirect attention there.  A request to a moderator could delete this one.

I know without a shadow of a doubt that the same trolls would appear no matter what I named this thread.
On fritz website he shows that how smooth the impedance of his spkrs over the audio freq vs others. Does it mean for the same db of music in a room the other spkrs demand a large watt/current  amp for the db of music ? Also he mention about series xo .Any comments on this would be valuable.To a listener in the room how does this sound to the ears...is it audible.Thanks.
HI NN,

On fritz website he shows that how smooth the impedance of his spkrs over the audio freq vs others.

Yep, that's a function of the series crossover design the man is fixated on. :)

 
Does it mean for the same db of music in a room the other spkrs demand a large watt/current amp for the db of music ?


No, what it means is, regardless of frequency, the impedance is relatively constant.   It is a super easy load and particularly beneficial to tube amps.   To compare it to a random, typical commercial speaker, like these monitor audio:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/monitor-audio-silver-300-loudspeaker-measurements

With a high impedance amp (i.e. tubes) the frequency response changes to match the impedance curve. This is less troublesome to solid state amps.

Also he mention about series xo .Any comments on this would be valuable.


The other benefit he claims is that because of how the parts are arranged, they stay out of the path of the drivers.  A $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others. The schematic and series XO theory bear this out, but I've not done a listening comparison.  However, given that I think he has very good ears (based on listening to his products and conversations) I have to believe he's onto something.



Sorry, I need to clarify something, I wrote:

The other benefit he claims is that because of how the parts are arranged, they stay out of the path of the drivers. A $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others.

What I should have written:

The other benefit he claims is that because the crossover components stay out of the path of the drivers in a series XO (which is true) a $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others which greatly reduces the price he has to sell his speakers at to reach equivalent performance with a parallel crossover. 

Every manufacter shows things....sone want to buy from a big eom not a one guy shop. I like fritz, but this is turning into an advertising program..thread. underwood wally LSA are copied from.joseph pulsars...he just won a big award on them..copied pulsars for 25 percent cost. Thats insane. 
@nyaudio98  - " underwood wally LSA are copied from.joseph pulsars...he just won a big award on them..copied pulsars for 25 percent cost. "
Curious as to what you mean by "copied pulsars" and to what extent?

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Lsa monitors were voiced to be as close to pulsars as could be, the previous pulsars. They succeedded, but you like what you like right..josephs are eye candy and more $$....people believe more money is better. Fritz has great speakers, as do many others. I dont think one speaker is a better by far if you will.  This thread is too bs, way too much. 
I haven’t tried the LSA’s but they look nice as well.  I agree that there are many nice speakers out there, especially when you start looking at used as an option.  
LSA speakers to me are only one of the many soulless productions made in some factory (or factories) in China for the western market. One of the comments to the review cited  (by Mitchell M Tallen, third one down) was very eloquent regarding the long term satisfaction of such things. Essential reading for anyone considering buying a speaker like this.  I am very grateful that people like Fritz offer me an alternative to such a depressing option.
I don’t know what all the scrutiny is for and won’t waste my time reading the posts. All I can say is that I have enjoyed his speakers for years.
 He took the time to call me the other day as I had a quick question on my pair. Super nice and I appreciated his time
Great speakers from a good guy!
Did not know that LSA’s came from china.  I thought they were from here for some readon.  Interesting...
Most ingredients  of rx drugs come from china, i take a decent amount of them daily. 
The lsa were voiced and designed by channel island audio and dan wiggins in usa. Cabinets are from china. This is.not saying lsa is better or not as good as fritz. This thread should of not been created. Tons of great speakers, fritz has a v nice speaker. 
Fritz and the guys at CIA are all good friends living in the same general area.
yes i agree

this is a tired, minimally useful thread at this point

ax grinding, idiotic made in china bashing (throw away your iphones and ipads then fools...) - ugh

It's knarly because of the title... Which is how the OP intended it... He likes to troll then call foul when it goes in a direction he doesn't like. 


Beautiful speakers. But an 85 db speaker can only be so friendly to a tube amp, no matter how smooth the impedance. 
It's knarly because of the title... Which is how the OP intended it... He likes to troll then call foul when it goes in a direction he doesn't like.
who is the troll?
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I’m late to this party but will vouch that Fritz is a prince of a guy and his speakers are a labor of love. I’ve reviewed the Carrera and Carbon for my blog (Steve’s Audio Blog) and they are wonderful and a fine option for anyone considering a pair of high-end monitors.
I haven't been out of the country lately....I am saddened hearing about the passing of Fritz, he was a dedicated audio.. we will miss him dearly..
Uhhh. It might be a surprise to Fritz that he is dead.

it is this sad thread that needs to die... 
it is this sad thread that needs to die...


You are right, let's talk about amps with meters.
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Soundsreal,
The first time it was a mistake (unless you were trying to be funny); now it’s just rude, and not funny.
Thats not cool....in fact saying stuff like that..can rub some people the wrong way...more then you think. In fact, in a dangerous way the wrong way. 
@nyaudio98 
@roxy54 

glad the mods intervened took care of the tasteless comment
I spoke by phone with Fritz this week and have had a few email exchanges as well. Strong likelihood that I’ll be purchasing speakers from him in next couple of months. Just need to figure out which ones and which finish....