Some opinions on here are just plain scary.
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roberjerman, i don't wholly disagree about the stones. although they still could crank out the odd great song thru the early 80s, some girls was their last essential album, and even some girls did not match their beggars banquet/sticky fingers/exile zenith. likewise, i find everything the who did after 1979 to be near-worthless. however, in the context of their entire bodies of work, to say that the who or the stones are overrated seems silly to me. my own picks for overrated would be zappa, tom waits and u2, who all seem like fine people but will not get near my turntable. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFwrRezLHZM Underrated.... although most would not even be aware of them.... they are musician’s musicians...(producers, studio rats, perfectionists, and from Detroit. So they gots the funk, they got the 1) 12" ep: https://www.discogs.com/Was-Not-Was-Papa-Was-A-Rolling-Stone/master/55711 |
Oh I saw the Velvet Underground and the Who with Keith Moon play. Definitely not over-rated. Hendrix sense of humour is rarely given recognition. Playing St. Peppers and parodying Cream after they broke up on TV. Lyrics "I hope I never hear surf music again" yet he went to Hawaii and made "Rainbow Bridge." |
OP: What rating scale are you using and who is doing the rating? IE: "overrated" compared to what? For instance, I think Elton Britt was a heck of a yodeler but there are those who would say Britt was overrated, especially when you consider the likes of Riley Puckett, Charles Anderson, and from afar, Solomon Linda and the Evening Birds, and of course, there are so many others. |
Bill Weir? Who's that? Bob Weir's cousin? I guess you can be added to the large group of folks who just don't get it. The Dead, at their best, is a highly developed improvisational group that takes risks most bands aren't capable of on stage. That said, they have also fallen flat on their faces from time to time. That comes with the territory. If you're saying they're a ripoff of The Band, try again. The Dead were formed in 1965, the Band, 1968. Ask pretty much any accomplished musician and you'll find Grateful dead fans. There's a tremendous respect for what they did not only on stage but the path they blazed for the music industry. Funny how today's current band make their money by touring (The Dead always made their money this way) and not by selling records. They're also the most recorded band in history. |
Hmmm...very interesting topic. While there are certainly artists/bands that I don't particularly care for, I tend to focus on the greater cause... the appreciation for MUSIC! If I were forced to rate any artists/band (in this case under/over rated) I would do my best to skirt the issue and instead suggest that I be allowed to compartmentalize them as follows: 1. Artist/bands that understand that if you put the music first, the money will follow. These types tend to have the longest careers because they remain passionate about the creativity of music. 2. Artists/bands that for good or bad, changed the game, and either advanced music, or made us appreciate the aforementioned more; sort of like pop art. you don't have to like Warhol, Haring, or Basquiat but there is no denying that they changed the game, and one could argue brought "Art" into mainstream. 3. Artists/bands with a unique sound that cannot be duplicated. For that reason alone they deserve a spot in music history and thus should be excluded from any 'overrated' label (no pun intended). AGAIN, you do not have to like them, but on a spiritual level (if you believe in that) they have been gifted something that no one else has. Examples: Dylan, Bjork, Prince...etc. Thank goodness 'Culture' rejects the opinions of the few ;) |
BTW The Beatles were one of the first bands to use the Moog sythezizer and Jimi Hendrix was so impressed by the album Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band he learnered to play the song and performed it in 3 days. Lennon/McCartney were admired as being one of the best singer song writers of their generation. Many, many music industry icons have praised the band. Whoever says they are overrated is somewhat misinformed??? An added thought... any musical performer or band has to be evaluated within the contextual framework of the cuture, place and time. The Beatles impacted the 60’s like no other band had done and impacted the generation musically, politically and culturally with humor, wit , fashion and their songs. Whether you liked them or not (Bob Dylan too) they made a mark on the times. Given that important perspective, with even taste aside, they can hold their place. They are not over rated. |
@andrei_nz-- you miss my point in an attempt to degrade it. I'm simply saying that musical opinions about something being "overrated" are about as worthless and self-centered as anything. What does "overrated" mean? That a large segment of the general pop or a large chuck of music critics laud the particular artist while you feel they're not worthy of such applause? That's narcissism. And that view has nothing to do with being PC ( I mean, why even bring that into the fray?), and everything to do with seeing music as a reflection of you. |
To the OP BTW 1. Led Zeppelin 2. Velvet Underground 3. U2 4. Ramones 5. The Who I don’t think these bands are overated. I don’t think they are good, I think they are exceptional. To me, taste might not prove it, but talent would. I have a friend who hates Bob Marley and the Wailers, to me they are great! He luvs the Doors, I think they are overated..... 🤷♂️ |
If you think a band is overrated, get over it.Why get over it? If they are crap in my opinion then I will say so. Saying an artist is overrated is akin to saying you're somehow better and more discerning than that artist's fanbase and catalog.Non sequitur. Scores well on political correctness, though. Complete narcissistic bollux.If you think other's opinions are overrated, get over it. |
We agree to disagree. I mean, I find intellectual and musical satisfaction in Reich's Music for 18 Musicians just as much as I do in Debbie Gibson's "Only In My Dreams". Crap is crap, but music is music. To set some arbitrary "absolute" is the same as saying the world has to reflect you, rather than vice versa. |
The competition at the bottom is tough but surely Velvet Underground are deserved winners. Mind you if soloists are included then that talent free zone, known as Diana Krall would take the podium. What an über-bore, the epitome of tepidness. And her 'Sub-Liberace' piano tinkling (Malcolm Steward's description) could put the most bothersome infant to sleep in minutes. And don't get me started on her back-up band. They have all the enthusiasm you would expect if they were heading for a vasectomy from a blind surgeon. |
