Integrated amp for Legacy Focus speakers


I started with Peachtree Nova pre & Nova 220 amp class D, it’s ok but out of space on preamp. Have an Emotiva BasX TA2 I’m running now and I like it better than the Peachtree. These speakers have 98% efficiency and 4 ohm, 7 driver but still think I need around 200 watts into 8 ohms (??!!), but with that efficiency maybe not? I listen at moderately loud levels.
I don’t really want separates so looking at integrated amps and class A & A/B only. Not sure what the Mac MA 7200 is on output stage but like this one. Also looking at Galion & Advance Paris integrateds. A used MAC represents where my $$$ stops - around $5-6K.
What other class A & A/B integrateds with full smorgasbord of features should I be looking at and will pair well with the Legacy Focus speakers (Which I love!!)?

thank you - Kevin

kevinshunt

Thanks everyone for your input, very much appreciated. I am going with separates, could not really find an integrated I liked that had enough input & output options. So separates it is.
Ended up deciding on a nice used CODA Continuum TS amp I found that was nearby for me. It really awakens the mids & highs on these speakers, compared to the Emotiva integrated I have in there temporarily for now. Of course bas is great.
Now on to figure out the best preamp . . . although that Herrin that @mitchagain suggested is a solid option.

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I have the Legacy IV:5 and a IV:2 Amps for my Legacy Focus SE's. They power all my Legacy speakers. (Marquis Center, Phantom Sides, Deco Rears, etc,). When I switched from a ATI Signature Series AT 6000 I saw a vast improvement on hiss levels, and the floor during spirted volume levels. They are the first amps I ever owned that is dead silent. Very cool running even when turned up for hours. Dynamic, clean sounding with tons of thump. Love these things

@kevinshunt Separates might be the way to go. Your $6K max budget could net something like this* (all 3 components listed below are currently available @ The Music Room, who offers "buy it - try it," even on used gear):

AMP: SPREAD SPECTRUM TECHNOLOGIES "Son of Ampzilla II" = $1749

PRE: HERRON AUDIO "VTSP-3A" = $2599

DAC: PS AUDIO "Direct Stream Jr." = $1129.

That totals $5477 + taxes & shipping

Just an example, but something worth considering.

Preamp, Amp and a DAC. Fills the bill for all your needs. Provides a path for the future.

@mitchagain That’s exactly where I am at, I am nearing end of my search for an integrated amp that will be what I was looking for. It may be that I just need to go for separates to find a pre-amp that has enough inputs. I don’t really need that many just 4 analog, USB, and a couple other digital. Never thought of asking a place for a one-off custom as I was thinking it would be out of my price range.

Wondering what others do that have a decent amount of analog gear but also want a few digital options . . . that’s why I was liking the McIntosh MA/MAC 7200 so much.

It seems to me that the biggest challenge that you're facing will be finding an integrated amp with enough inputs and a built-in DAC. I've seen multiple I/A's that I almost recommended, except they had a built - in phono stage, rather than a DAC. So, I wonder if someone like Coda or Modwright could custom make something for you that would meet all of your needs?

You need 4 wpc at most.  I've looked at those speakers seriously to match with SET amps.  

Buy a 200 wpc amp and listen to the first watt.  My experience is the makers of 200 wpc amps don't pay enough attention to watt number 1.

Jerry

Be aware that if you buy a Modwright amp used, there is NO warranty! I'm running the Benchmark AHB2. I'm happy with them. Good luck. Joe

Bump up your budget a bit and get a used Boulder 866 with the digital option. Fantastic amp! Good luck!

gheesh, that $3995 Csib already gone

Because it’s really, really good. I have Focus XD’s with Coda S5.5. Stellar!

@mitchagain I do like the CODA line, sure wish CSiB has more inputs both digital & analog... the search continues, will be looking into the other brands you mentioned.

...gheesh, that $3995 Csib already gone

Lots of good suggestions so far. I recently helped a friend get back in the game and he went with a Vincent SV - 237 (hybrid: SS amp with tube preamp), because of his budget limitations. The BAT hybrids were out of his price range; but, BAT has yet to be mentioned. There are currently 1 or 2 available at The Music Room (TMRaudio.com) website.

I also suggested that my friend consider: Coda - Hegel - Modwright & Plinius; but, I've got to say that the Coda Csib currently listed on USAM @ $3995 is the best price I've seen on that one.  Best of luck in your search! 

As long as the int amp was not harsh on highs & mids and bass was handled well (which both of the amps I have now work well with the bass drivers on these speakers).

Forget Emotiva.  Here’s a nice Plinius Hautonga well under your price range that would likely sound wonderful and well worth a look.  Best of luck. 

@mark200mph Do you use balanced for input on the ?  I am considering Emotiva, looked a little at the XPA-2 Gen 3 for 2 channel, definitely not looking to use monoblocks, just my preference but I do understand the gains that can be made. Still considering the XPA DR2 but heard somewhere that unless you use balanced input one may not hear much of a difference over the XPA Gen 3 two channel.  Not sure I believe this though.

@csmgolf I do want an integrated - true, my bad I thought they did but didn’t go through all their web pages to find out.

I am learning now about current vs watts, gonna have to do a little research on this on my own as electronics is not something I’ve dabbled in just yet. The CSiB seems interesting, wishing it has a digital input section.

@kevinshunt 

Legacy does not currently make an integrated amp. Your OP stated integrated amp only. The Impulse I mentioned is a discontinued Legacy integrated amp that was made for them by Coda. 

If I understood your OP, you own the older Focus and not the SE or XD. Is that correct? 

 

soix - As long as the int amp was not harsh on highs & mids and bass was handled well (which both of the amps I have now work well with the bass drivers on these speakers).

csmgolf - Thanks for the input.  Wondering why the Legacy amps didn't make  your list?  Any thoughts on those?

I mainly use monoblocks emotiva dr1 xpr 1 michi m8 they all sound good on legacy focus.emotiva dr1 and there pre amp is worth a try you can always send it back if you don't like the combo have fun in the search.enjoy the music.the music room has free shipping this wk

We are a legacy and coda dealer ad we sell many outstanding integrated amplifiers

 

the naim Uniti star or nova do a superb job the synthesis A100 titan is amazing with the Legacys

 

Dave and Troy

audio intellect NJ

legacy coda, naim synthesis dealers

 

Really depends on what improvements you’re looking for and what sound characteristics are most important to you.  Without that info it’s impossible to make an informed recommendation. 

+1 Coda based on my personal experience when I had Focus XD speakers in my home.

Legacy used to have their amps made for them by Coda Technologies and displayed with them for years. The CSiB integrated by Coda should work. Legacy speakers like a lot of current, even though they are pretty efficient. The Coda amps are known for their ability to deliver current. There is a CSiB for sale here and another on USAM right now. TMR has a Legacy Impulse integrated for sale right now as well. That was one of the amps made for Legacy by Coda and a precursor to the current Coda integrated. Pretty reasonable price on that one, although it is older and does not have a remote. You should be able to get a universal remote and program it to the Impulse. I have no affiliation to any of the sellers. My two cents worth. Good luck.