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Can I plug 2 bryston 4b amplifier into a furman 15 amp regulator?  It's furmans small regulator.

albertballew

You can and it will work but it will likely sound better plugged straight into the wall.

Better sound quality by plugging straight into the wall is nearly universal.

 

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@albertballewI don't understand why you want to use a voltage regulator instead of a powerline conditioner unless you are constantly experiencing significant voltage fluctuations from your mains supply.

If mains filtering is a requirement, something like this https://furmanpower.com/products/it-ref-15i which is based on an isolation transformer might be an option where high current is necessary.  These units can be sourced at reputable dealers on the internet new for a fraction of this price if you are interested. 

I use the furman 20i on my bryston 28 b3 because it has large caps that give it at least 60 amps for transients on loud volumn.they go on sale at 2k.works fine however I would like to plug them directly into the wall but too many power spikes in my area.enjoy the music

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Perhaps those more technically competent than I as a novice can check my estimation and comments.  First, the Bryston 4b SST manual indicates a 15 amp line is adequate but cautions that at a 4Ohm load with maximum power output, a mains line sharing other equipment or appliances may overload and trip the breaker.  Current is additive.  A 10Amp draw and a 5Amp draw at a given voltage (120V) is a 15Amp total current draw on the line.  Second, the maximum power consumption specification is 1350Watts (consumption not output).  At 120V, the current requirement at maximum power consumption is 11.25Amps. *  Recognize that this is the maximum and under real home listening levels you are probably not drawing anything near maximum current.  In conclusion, and considering the calculation of maximum current draw and Bryson’s caution, plugging two Bryston 4bs (11.25 + 11.25Amps maximum draw) into a Furman regulator rated at 15Amps may overload the circuit and trip a breaker in the Furman or at your panel, especially if you also have other equipment hooked up to the Furman.  I recommend discussing this with Furman.  

*I(A) = P(W)/V(V)

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You can but I wouldn't.   Most likely to just bottleneck the sound if not capable of delivering enough power and current.

@jea48 

Thank you for your explanation.   I fully agree with your analysis of TPP and its effects on current, circuits, and potential effect on dynamics of the reproduced sound. However, the specification cited was the Bryston specification for continuous maximum power, not transient peak power.  I calculate the specified CMP to draw 11.25Amps for a single unit.  This seems consistent with the Bryston manual that indicates a 15Amp mains supply is adequate; however, warns that on a shared circuit with other electronics or appliances, there is a potential to trip the breaker. I stated that under normal listening situations, maximum continuous power will probably not be reached, except in a high current demand situation (like a cold start up).  Again, I recommend contacting Furman for their recommendation.  Personally, I recommend a regenerator, regulator, or conditioner rated at 20Amps for this stated system and application.  I use a conditioner rated for 20Amps on a dedicated 20Amp line and my amplifier draws less current at MCP than the 4b. I hear no degradation in SQ, and benefit from lower noise and surge protection.  

Garth Powell (audioquest) designed some Furman units, I believe. Look for one that has words like transient power correction or similar. If it does, plug your power amp into it and it may sound better than wall, in addition to other protections it offers.

Guys who have expensive amps plugged straight into the wall might start crying when power anomalies degrade or kill their amps. You may wanna play it safe and not be crying with them too.

Garth was a furman engineered then went to audioquest you can see his interview on  upscale audio website under the niagra power product.worth watching.enjoy the music.

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I don't think the Furman with the Bryston is a good idea.  I use a 15A Furman regulator because I have low-powered tube amps and my line voltage often drops to 114 or lower during the summer, causing the amps to under-perform.  But the Bryston is already well-regulated, so there's no advantage to adding a bottleneck in front of it.

Ty. Yes voltage bounces around during summer . Right now I've got 123 volt so this is the time to pump up volume .    As people say plug to wall but times my voltage drops to 113-114  and has big spikes.  Good old summer and it's approaching me . So plug in to wall is scary.

Install a whole house surge protector, and at least two new 20 amp dedicated circuits for your equipment.  Maybe $1,000 or less, to get you to better load capacity first, before buying other expensive equipment.  I just got done installing 4 dedicated 20 amp circuits for my Mcintosh amps, controller, and new REL sub.  Wasn’t that much more money for four circuits, then just one,