After attending RMAF for 3 days, Bob's pricing is extremely fair and should be considered a true value. After I write up my coverage of RMAF I'll be contacting Bob for a couple of cables to audition.
Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables
Now, this is not a advertisement, just a posting sharing my experience on some well made great sounding cables at a very reasonable price. Besides, I don't think Cerious Technologies is set up for a big influx of cable orders.
But, if you get the chance to try these cables, please do.
I have been interested in the newer cables coming out that are using Graphene as a conductor. SR cables seemed interesting, but I always hated the way there cables had all those extra wires (with the active shields and such). I then noticed an ad early in I think November or December from Cerious Technologies for Graphene cables. I investigated how the cables were assembled and it seemed like quite a laborious process.
I ordered (with a 30 day money back guarantee) the balanced Graphene interconnects, and boy did they impress me. Such depth, soundstage, realism, frequency smoothness, effortless sound. I was truly impressed! I now have a complete loom of the Cerious Technologies Graphene cables. That is; interconnects, speaker cables, digital cables and power cords.
I ended up selling all of my other cables and to those of you who have read my postings know that cables have always been my curiosity.
So, as I began this post, let me again iterate, I have no alliance to the company, my posting is for those of you looking for an great alternate high quality Graphene made cable without spending a fortune.
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I agree with csmgolf's comment regarding the addition of all the interconnects (etc.) at the same time. With that said, if you are the type of person that wants to hear the sonic's of each individual interconnect (etc.), are patient, and have the time, then add one at a time. If I remember correctly, you are looking at 50 hours for full break-in time, but the GE products really do sound very good right out of the box. I think the differences you will hear are dependent on your individual system and the quality of the interconnects (etc.) you are replacing. In my personal case I liked what I heard as soon as I replaced the speaker cables, and power cable. The digital cable and the RCA interconnect sounded as good, but not necessarily better than what I was using however the GE products were a much lower cost thus a real money saver. |
I need to generate a new systems page for my new room that now has 3 power cords and one more on the way, and Bob's speaker cables as well. I have prodigious amounts of bass in this new room and certainly Bob's cables are contributing. I did notice that they respond to upstream cable changes very well. I switched out some Pure Note IC's for some hybrid ribbon Audio Magic IC's and the top end came through better with these but so did the bass. It also helps that I put in an SR UEF/graphene duplex next to the Cardas AG and Furutech GTX-gold units. You can really change the sound among these 3 differences in metallurgy. The fit and finish of Bob's cables is primo and I ordered another power cable. I am waiting for some more break-in and may order a 5th power cable soon after. |
It would appear rather unlikely that the conductors are (only) Graphene inasmuch as Graphene is by definition one atom thickness. Didn’t the mfgr indicate the backbone is copper with Graphene wrapped around the backbone. One can’t help wonder how the heck you handle one atom thickness Graphene, with teeny tiny tweezers? |
I have a pdf Bob sent me once of the making of a GE speaker cable, I posted it here: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?19311-The-Making-Of-A-Cerious-Technologies-Graphene-Ext... Basically its a silver/copper 8 gauge proprietary alloy bundled with carbon fiber that's been impregnated with graphene and liquid ceramic. There's more so check it out it's an interesting read with photos. |
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Bob from Cerious...We have an OEM version of an Oyaide plug made for us in Japan. It is the only way we can afford to sell them for what we do. Using a "true" Oyaide plug would more than double what we can sell them to customers for and we have worked closely with our supplier to get them to be a sonic wash for much less money. Oyaide makes a great connector but it is one we cannot afford to use to keep anything close to our price point... |
Ozzy - Thanks so much for your glowing review of the Cerious Tech cables - I have purchased a full "loom" of power cables, a digital cable and Interconnect at this point. Speaker cables will probably be next. I have sold my high priced cables, including a Nordost Valhalla 2, Tara Labs Cobalt power cables and Shindo Silver interconnects. I "guaranty" that anyone who tries Bob's cables will NOT give them back. They are that good, and then some! I have never heard anything better, including Nordost Odin at my local hifi shop. The musicality, soundstage width/depth, tone of instruments, detail resolution is outstanding. I urge everyone who is looking for a HUGE upgrade that is relatively inexpensive to use Bob's 30 day money back guaranty and buy some of his exceptional cables as soon as possible - I'm telling you, you will NEVER look back! |
One more thing - All you Shindo owners out there - for the fun of it, I hooked up one of the Cerious power cords to my Auregies - well guess what, everything became bigger and even more detail. There is finally a PC out there that beats that darn gray one!! Of course I dont know about other Shindo products, but with Bob's money back guaranty, it's worth a shot (of graphene!) |
I agree, the Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables have huge bang for the buck quality and sound. Definitely worth a try, and if I was starting out in this hobby, I would purchase a full loom and not second guess my choice. It's hard to believe, but this product betters other manufactured products that cost five times more etc. Don't take my word for it, let your ears be the judge. I own a full loom on one of my systems and just ordered a 12' Red Low Current Optimized GE power cord for my Allnic H-2101 phone preamp. |
Bob, I can only speak for myself and I have to say I only have a basic understanding of why a phono cable needs to be designed differently. Assuming phono cables do need a different design (I'm using Morrow phono cables today and they sound good to me, but ....) I would be interested in what you would bring to market given that you seem to be providing better performance for the money elsewhere. I like how you explain why you design your power cords the way you do for example on your web site. That makes sense to me. Your speaker cable design is again, compelling. Getting back to your question, I would need RCA connections for my gear, but I understand many could use the din connector at the turntable also. Perhaps that is another cable type where options might be needed. |
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+1 jond on rating the GE cables, the SC are quite astonishing considering their price point. John, the GE is way better than the Nano Signature I had in my system, simply no comparison. C'mon, it's just a fraction of the costs of the HFC cables you had.... As IC, I use a mix of GE and HFC CT1-U in my main system. |
Bob from Cerious. Everyday you live and do not improve is a lost opportunity. There are just two problems with coming out with something new. [1] Graphene Extremes are really good, so it would have to be a clear performance upgrade of a cable beating $4000 cables. [2] Time...all I do is make cables. I have no time to do R&D. It will happen someday but do not fear the future. I always take current customers into consideration with very generous trade in policies and many customers took advantage of this to go from Nano to GE. Enjoy...now back to "Making the cables..." |
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As I switched in Audio Magic Trinium IC's the Graphene SC's responded to each one. I found that the SC's did not impart their will but stayed neutral for every cable I have had in the system since taking delivery of Bob's power and speaker cables. I have not had any bloom (which means bloat to me) but I have raised my sound to a level never before. Detail, body & soul, deep bass are all there. As I place the Triniums in the system, the detail goes up due to their metallurgy which tells me that the SC's do not trump what I am doing elsewhere. I do also have Trinum SC's but am afraid of too much of a good thing so to speak, so am reluctant to replace Bob's SC's. YMMV My 4th power cable arrives this week. Thanks Bob! Check out my new system in the Systems section. |
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Ozzy I have Andra 2 as well, you got my attention sir, I look at the price of cerious cables they are reasonably price, compare to HF cables they are give away, does this cables sounds more like silver or copper, or solid core or strand, to all cerious cable users how do they compare with the Nordost tyr , heimdall or Valhalla, or audio quest and kimbers, I almost bought HF speaker cables, I feel like this cables as good as the HF cables.thank you |
