Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables

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roxy54, The speaker cables are great! And I needed a 4 meter double run for my Bi-wired Eggleston Andra ll's speakers.

And I must add that the power cords also are very good. He sells different power cords for different applications. Such as for Digital, Amps etc.

Heck, even the Digital AES/XLR cable is much better than my previous cable. Once I completed the loom and put some time on the cables everything locked into place.

geoffkait, I'm not going to continue the debate on the purpose of the graphene, assume what you may, my message however is in the sound quality.

mapman, thanks for your posting. I wonder how the SR cables are made? They claim to use graphene in there design, albeit at much higher prices.

geoffkait, You may be right, I just don't know, sorry.

I do have to give Bob Grost from Cerious Technologies credit for thinking outside the box in his approach to making cables.

I will also add that I had the Bybee Signal Enhancers sitting on top of my previous speaker cables. But, with these new Graphene Extremes the Bybee's sort of took away some of the sound quality, so I removed them. There must be some interaction between the Bybee's design and the Graphene Extremes. Very interesting...

I just looked at the web page. It doesn't describe the different power cables much.

There are; Digital, Hi power and Low power analog and a Power Conditioner cord.

You probably need to send an email or call Bob.

jafant,

My system should be listed on Audiogon.

But, the short version is:

Pass Labs X350.5 Amp

PS Direct Stream dac

PS P-10 Power conditioner

Bryston BDP-2 usb player

BSG QOL

JL Audio F113 subs 

Eggleston Works Andra 2 speakers

knghifi,

Well, I had at one time a full loom of the Top of the line SR cables.($$$). I think it was the Tesla and Apex series with the upgraded galileo couplers as such. Then I moved to a complete loom of HiDiamond cables, what a relief to get rid of all those extra SR wires. Then, I had a mixture of HiDiamond and the MAD Scientists NEO power cords. Each step in my opinion improved the sound quality. Now, the Graphene Extremes are the best yet!

David, I have replaced all my fuses with the SR black.

jazzonthehudson, That’s a good question. I cant really say. I started with the interconnects, then speaker cables, power cables and then the digital.

The interconnects didn’t seem to take much break in time, while the power cords did. My advise is to first try one at your current weakest link.

knghifi, I tried the power cable Conditioner on my PS Audio P-10, but I actually preferred it on my BSG QOL an analog piece of equipment. The HC power cord is a heavier gauge than the rest so it should be used on high current equipment. (such as my Pass Labs amp)

Thanks guys for the extra web sites on Graphene based products. It has  really peaked my interest.

I have tried in the past some Carbon based cables and they were just so-so.

David, SR really does come up with some very cool products too bad there so expensive, but, maybe that's why they can produce them. I am currently using one of there newer products and tweaking the heck of it.

jafant, Thank you for your comments.

My experience was that the Cerious power cables sounded pretty good right away and during break in never sounded bad.

But I think it does improve as most electrical items do over time. Mine now have many hours on them and to tell you the truth the change is gradual. But I DO think they sound better than originally. But honestly, how can I tell? Like most cables 200 hours seems to be a good point to evaluate.

jond, That's great! I know what it is to have to send something back for service. Everything stops and it seems to take forever. I think its because we have become so dependent on the soothing effect that music brings.

What type of digital did you get? I have a AES/XLR Graphene Extreme.

philipwu,

The Cerious Graphene interconnects and speaker cables were a big improvement over the HiDiamond 3. There is a much more open and livelier sound. I was surprised.

The power cords is a little different. I still find that the HiDiamond P4 is best on my PS Audio P-10 power conditioner compared to the Cerious versions. But, at my amp and sources the Cerious Graphene power cords is best.

jeony, Congrats!

Next you need to try the speaker cables.

geared4me,

I think you will really like the speaker cables.

David, I do have the SR black fuse in my QOL. I really love the QOL unit. I'm not sure why they aren't used more. I am also using the Graphene Extreme power cord, and the Graphene Extreme balanced interconnects on that unit.

Lak, Yes, thanks for your very informative posting. The only place that I preferred the P4 better than the Cerious Graphene was on my PS-P-10 power conditioner.

geared4me,

That's great. I also thought the interconnects and the speaker cables sounded pretty good right away. The power cords take a little longer to come into their own but still are not as bad as others.

By the way, I had Bob make me a 4 meter Bi-wire set of Graphene Extreme speaker cables. Now that you have yours, imagine what mine look like. I carefully cable tied them together and I think they look quite nice.

Enjoy!

jazzonthehudson,

Wow! Your DIY interconnects are made from 16 Gauge wire? Is that a typo?

My Graphene Extreme interconnects are the balanced XLR type and those connections look about what most cable companies use.

If I understand your post correctly, you just have the one Graphene interconnect. I think if you keep adding the Graphene Extreme interconnects you will be even more impressed.

Also, do try the speaker cables. The prices are not that high for the sound quality improvement.

Been quiet for a few days. Well I just ordered another digital cable to record Hi-REZ from my Mutec Reclocker to my Tascam.

Just wondering if anyone else has received there cables and how they like them.

maxima95,

Now that you mention it, it did take at least 2 weeks before being shipped. I hope to have it next week.

Hang in there, as I said at the start of the thread, Cerious Technologies is probably not set up for a big influx of orders. But, the Graphene Extreme cables are something special.

Try to contact him again during the next week.

maxima95,

That's great!

There is another thread about CPT cables that split the AC into a balanced configuration. I'm going to get one of these power cords to try with / against the Cerious Technologies Graphene power cables.

We all have opinions, those who have actually tried the Graphene cables should share there experiences. Those who have not are only speculating.

But, I myself am very pleased with the sound quality derived from the use of graphene, however it is applied or achieved with the Cerious Technologies cables.

Lets leave any bickering to the upcoming election.

dekay,

I don't think Bob has had any time to update his website. Best way is to send him an email. But forewarned, it sounds like it may take time for him to get back to you.

jaafjj,

Congrats on the purchases, I know I'm very pleased.

Geoff,

Please cool it and keep the thread on track.

dekay,

lak,and jmcgrogan, are correct. I bought mine during the introduction. I am not sure what the current going price is that's why I think you need to contact Bob.

Thanks Bob!

Now get back to work...LOL!

There has been another thread on the Cable Forum about a CPT power cable that is designed to provide balanced power. I wanted to try it with the Cerious Technologies Graphene Extremes so I ordered one and today I received it.

First impression, it is much larger unit than I thought it would be and on first listen the audio was so-so. The video from a cable box was also just so-so, nothing special.

But... 20 minutes later the video from my cable box is looking much better and the audio is improving. I don’t know why I am surprised because I know power cords need to break in. But, with the video you can almost see the picture improving as you watch it. 20 minutes isn't very long but it has improved immensely.

I think with the audio I need to give it more time. However, what I’m now hearing is becoming mighty impressive, with no downside.  
I have everything running from my PS Audio P-10. I had to use 3- DIY (non filtered) 8 way outlets daisy chained from my PS P-10. I mean I have everything coming from the one CPT 300. All of my audio components are using the Cerious Technologies Graphene power cables.

So, I think using utilizing the best of both designs, the CPT 300 with its balanced design feeding the Cerious Technologies Graphene Extremes is going to be an awesome combination.

lancelock,

At one time I owned the SR Apex speaker cables. The Graphene Extremes is way better!

audiolabyrinth,

I know, and not only does it sound good but they are well made.

Actually, I think the speaker cables and interconnects are even better! Don't sit on the sidelines, jump in!

infection,

Bob is probably stressed out as we all are at times. I started this thread knowing that he is basically a one man operation with many years of experience. He is a decent guy.

agriculturist,

Sorry, I have no experience with the SR element cables just the SR Apex.

You may have to be the "guinea pig."

davidpritchard,

Thanks, for your comments.

What exactly does graphene do to improve the sound quality?  Is it a super conductor? Then why would it help speaker drivers?

calloway,

Nice review. Was the Lumin the equipment that was used in the trial?

At one time I owned the HF ultimate interconnects and the digital cable and though they were very good , I was getting a low level hum that was annoying. Perhaps it was because they were single ended where as all of my other interconnects are balanced. Or maybe my equipment didn’t like the magnetism, I don’t know.

Anyway, I sold them and I am now very pleased with the Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme balanced interconnects, speaker cables and power cords.

I must add in my experience, moving the Cerious cables around does affect the sound for a while. After all it has a liquid slurry inside that needs to resettle for optimum sound. On the other hand, the HF cables with there magnets also affect the signal when disconnected or reconnected. And both the Cerious Graphene and the CPT do need hours on them to sound there best.

jmcgrogan2,

No I never thought I needed to clean the RCA's maybe that explains the hum.

I think you will be impressed with the Graphene Extremes.

calloway,

I think you will really like the speaker cables. I am using a 4 meter dual runs (bi-wiring).

lak,

Congrats on the digital cables. I have both the RCA and the XLR versions.

As I stated on the other thread I am using the CPT 300 on my low power equipment utilizing a DIY 8 way junction box. From there I have the Graphene Extremes going to the individual components.

cycles2,

Congratulations! Did you also get any GE interconnects?

cycles,

I'm using the Curious (Not Cerious) USB cables.

lak,

Did you get the RCA or XLR version?

What do you use in your main system?

lak,

It will be interesting to hear your results of the Cerious GE Digital against the HF UR Digital cable on your main system.

thalusa,

5 meter pair of XLR interconnects eh ? I have a double (bi-wire) 4 meter set of the Cerious GE speaker cables.