Can Vandy's get along with cats?


I'm currently a proud owner of a pair of Vandersteen 3A sig., and am considering getting a cat. I've held off up to this point because I'm concerned that the cat would shred the socks on the Vandersteens. It's a big enough concern that I have thought about getting different speakers. I'm curious if anyone has had any experience with cats and Vandersteens sharing the same space. Has this worked for anyone in the past?

Thank you very much,
robshrode
I own both a cat and a set of vandys but I do not let the cat in the listening room for your exact concerns. I have seen a number of vandersteen speakers on audiogon for sale that are treated as scratching posts...I would recommend that you either make sure the cat is declawed or you keep them in separate rooms. Im not sure how much Richard charges for new socks....maybe this is something worth looking into?
...I would recommend that you either make sure the cat is declawed

Not every cat is going to use the speakers as a scratching post and before you do something extreme as this, maybe do some prevention such as covering the speakers ( think slip cover ) when the speakers arent in use/your not home.
Let me get this straight... You are thinking about changing speakers because you want a cat? Have you thought about seeking professional help?
I have three cats and a year ago moved my Vandy's into the living room where they can now get to them. I feared the worst but the most that they have done is laid down on the top of the speakers where the fabric makes a soft place to sleep. None of the cats are declawed. I did nothing to discourage them. After all the bad press I had read for cats and Vandys I was pleasantly surprised. YRMV. Good luck!
There is no definitive answer.

I've had one grill cloth clawed "one time" in the past 21 years (total of 8 cats/3 still with us).

Many of our cats being feral rescues (one was both feral and bi-polar).

This said, they damaged a leather sofa (both arms ripped to shreds), one leg on an old Monterey dining table was used as a scratching post (one out of four isn't bad), various rugs, carpet, bedding (during the last stages of their lives), a few paintings (worth more than the stereo) and one sprayed the coffee maker while it was in the process of brewing (the bi-polar one:-).

All in all they have been very well behaved, IMO, when compared to all the things I've screwed up over the past 56 years.

As your speaker socks are replaceable I'd start him/her out with the Vandies.
Anyone concerned with the well being of an animal is NOT the one that needs professional help. If spending more on speakers is necessary in trying to be responsible, will the poor please get out of the way of the rich. I commend Robshrode.
Loving a pet is nothing to laugh at and companionship from an animal is far more intelligent than a expensive stereo. You just cant predict this, my cat has claws and zero desire to claw anything. Dont declaw unless last resort, its cruel but better than death.
Introduce your cat to scratching posts. Place scratching posts in multiple areas of your home. This should greatly decrease the chances that your cat will use your speakers.
Declawing a cat is absolutely taboo, cruel and unacceptable.
1) Most cats would rather scratch a sissal scratching post and one near enough the speakers will get used preferentially.

2) Most cats will avoid things that get them sprayed with a water bottle (while they're actually in the process of doing something undesirable).

3) Grill cloth doesn't cost a lot of money to replace if somehow that fails.

I had 6-7 years of overlap between having my cat (and my sister's cat when she moved in) and speakers with grills without issue.
My cats have coexisted nicely with speakers, one of them going on 19 years now with only one incident. One day while listening to music she just up and decided to jump on top of my speaker. She gave me that look like she knew it was not the right thing to do but did it anyway. I calmly got up, went over and picked her up off the speaker, then gave her a pretty good lecture. For further emphasis I put the water bottle on top of the speaker.

No need to declaw or even change speakers. Cats don't inherently find speakers attractive and they can easily have their attention diverted to other toys that will aid in trimming their nails or giving them some feline pleasure.
Two cats, three dogs, one pair of Vandersteen 1C's. Thirteen years of peaceful co-existence. Never a problem, and the Vandy fabric looks as good as it did the day I brought the speakers home in 1998. And my pets are all healthy, happy, and loving the music.
My cat, Renfield by name, NEVER went near my Maggies. When Renfield was gone a few years and I replaced him with a pair of littermates, THEY never went near 'em, either.
One of the sofas was the worse for wear, however, and the big orange one liked tearing up the trees in the back yard. I made the orange one a scratch post, which was HIS. I could never get his sister to stop picking on a small but nice area rug.

Do not declaw, under any circumstances. It's mean. Cats should have some space of there own....a raised platform with a view outside is nice. Regularly scheduled playtime is almost mandatory, too. My wife used to sing to 'em which they enjoyed.
My friend had Vandy 3a and a pair of Paradigm subs. There were no problems...until one day he came home to find one of the speakers and both subs "clawed." Though the cat was probably not aware of what was going on, it is now buried behind his house. He said it was an old cat anyway and the speakers had many years to go.

Rob
Rob let me make this perfectly clear, your an asshole if that story is true
or not. Your an asshole if you are joking and your a bigger one if its true,
bravo!
Anyone who thinks in any way that cruelty to animals is funny or
justified is in Robs company too.
I posted a similar question a few months ago-- wanted to protect my ARs. Haven't found the ideal answer, but you can get "hardware cloth" or chicken wire, and curl it around each speaker with enough space to allow for long claws. Anchor the base of the wire to a large stand for stability.

My kitty LOVED to claw the spines of my record collection too. More wire here if needed. Soon enough, you'll be living outside in a chicken coop and meowser will be listening to "environments" records on your sofa. Smart little buggers.
I was worried about my Vandersteen's also, but the cat has very little interest in them. She tried to use the cloth on my Altec floor-standers as a scratching post just once. I got up quickly and yelled "NO!" and she's never done it again. You could try playing some modern classical music through them when you aren't home (you know, the screechy atonal kind) when you aren't home for a few days. That should put her off music equipment for a good while!
Squirt guns are great, the ines that shoot across a room are accurate and a great training tool, a laser pointer can quickly get them refocused aswell.
Thanks for the responses. I enjoyed getting to hear about everyone's personal experiences with their pets. It sounds like people have had mixed success at least with the Vandy's. Your training advice will surely be of great help, even if I do decide to change speakers first. In the meantime, the success stories have given me hope that maybe the two can coexist peacefully. Lots of food for thought. To those concerned that I might declaw a cat, once I understood what this entailed for the cat I knew that it wasn't an option for me. If anyone has additional stories to tell, or cat v. Vandy advice, I'm sure that I'll be both enlightened and entertained when I hear it.

Thanks again
My cats (5 in the house now) have never destroyed any stereo equipment, but I do admit that one does like to sleep on the turntable cover.

However, I had a Golden Retriever that once ate both cones out of both subwoofers during the day. Then, after I replaced one cone, and went into the garage for the other, the dog ate the one I just replaced.

Never touched either one after that. dont know why. It had been exposed to those subwoofers for a couple of years before the meal, and many years after.
Try playing a recording of a barking dog when the cat gets near the speaker
My Vandy 1Bs bought new in the early 90s were THOUROUGHLY enjoyed by myself and various cats. The "cat trampoline" tops were particularly attractive to the cats and declawing was not an option (I think it's lame, and since we lived on several rural CT country acres the cats needed the claws to harass wildlife and defend themselves). I couldn't stand it anymore so I sent 'em back to Vandersteen for new covers, and then sold them. When I sent them back I made the mistake of asking if they could be "updated" and they put Richard Vandersteen on the phone...he basically scolded me for even suggesting such a thing ("Newer tweeters? DO YOU REALIZE EVERY COMPONENT HAS BEEN MODIFIED OR CHANGED??!!!")...pretty funny. I prefer less "cat tempting" speakers so no more Vandys, although now we have zero cats so anything is possible...hmmm...
Unfortunately, I would often return from work and find my new kitten hanging from one paw on the sock of my Vandys. It was quite a sight, both funny and disturbing. I had no money at the time to fix them, so I just watched him put multiple snags in the sock. As he got older, he stopped doing that. A few years later, when I finally got some money, I had them "resocked" , at a mild cost.
As I think I mentioned in another thread, one of our cats likes to chew on cables. A far costlier problem than speaker grills, but to be safe I have never installed the grills on my Dunlavys. In addition to wrapping the cables with various materials in strategic places, I've had success keeping little Spencer away from the equipment rack by laying down carpet protector upside down. Not ideal but it's cheap and portable.
Easy Fix
Go to Bed Bath and beyond and purchase
Orange Citrus spray
Spray the bases and or cables etc
You can also spray into a plastic sandwich bag and
leave it behind the speakers
Cats do not like the scent of citrus and stay away.
Cheers JohnnyR
Audioconnection-- I personally knew a cat who ate oranges for breakfast. Winnie was an unusual kitty, but some cats like citrus.
I know it's not citrus, but my big orange cat would eat Cantelope until just shy of (the cat) exploding. Also, any and all pizza toppings.
His littermate/sister would eat ONLY cat food, not even a nibble of Porterhouse or BBQ Chicken would tempt.
Quite true, some cats don't mind citrus at all. If you really want to disgust a cat, peel a banana in front of them. They give you this horrified look like, "I can't believe you'd eat something so repulsive".

Sounds like a marketing idea waiting to happen.
What idea, Palsar? Banana scented insense in the listening room?

The ONLY safe to thing to say about cats is that they are ALL different. I've even seen pictures of cats that'd go into a swimming pool voluntarily.
My big orange one would see the flee comb and come over and wait. His sister? GONE. She'd find a new place to lay and hide...HE'D take it away. HE'd open my sock drawer and make himself at home.

I think cats are kind of a crap-shoot. I've never been able to clock what they are going to do next, at least when kittens.
Just an update: The story about an owner putting his can down after it did damage to his speakers (and other items) is 100% true. It wasn't my cat. They weren't my speakers. I'm simply relating a story. If it angers you I'm sorry.

Calling me names is out of line as I had nothing to do with it.

Rob
Cats are like children, you never know what your going to get, but for the most part, I have been lucky over the years and havent had much destroyed.

As for killing a cat because it damaged speakers, theres a special place in hell for people like that.
"Banana scented insense in the listening room? "

Yup, now you're thinking...

Seriously though, after being owned by many cats, the one consistency I've noticed is their dislike of bananas. Try it.
He didn't abuse the cat; he disposed of an unwanted cat, similar to the way unwanted children are aborted. :(
Indeed...disposal of unwanted children who mess with your speakers is similar to a heartless cat murderer. I hate it when a human embryo tears my speaker grills. Who wouldn't? I might try the banana defense against the next assault on my hifi by a wave of destructive fetuses (feti?) as it seems to work with cats. I learn SO much in this forum!
OK, I will.
sounds nutty, but than, so too are cats.

I know cats ALL seem to hate having a balloon rubbed on 'em than it sticks due to static. They back away and it FOLLOWS! OMG! It's after me!
Wolf, I think you missed my sarcasm; I was pointing out the wretchedness of wanton killing of animals and the infant in the womb. Babies in utero assaulting stereos do not enter the picture, at least the picture I was painting.

Perhaps you disagree, but let's not be puerile about it. ;)

I wunder if cat lovers gravitate to Vandys? Mabey dog lovers like Bowow and Wilkins.
Douglas, I think you missed my sarcasm; I was pointing out the wretchedness of the use of an inappropriate metaphor.
Wolf, my comment was meant to evoke a strong response, as there were strong moral judgments made previously in the thread. If you feel it's inappropriate because you disagree with it, so be it. :)



Finding offense at the killing of a pet because it damaged your speakers doesnt constitute strong moral judgment, just basic humanity.
Manituc, an interesting thought. I would suggest that one's definition of what "basic humanity" is would dictate whether they agree with your sentiment. A Humanist and a Theist will have radically different conclusions as to what constitutes "basic humanity", from which each will derive their accepted vs. unaccepted behaviors and mores for society. It would also, I suppose, determine how inflamed their conscience might be by a given act considered to be against their worldview's standards.

But as to the presence of a cat in the home, not for me. We have a Shi Tzu, a smaller non-shedding, quiet tempered dog which has been ideal. I saw the lead up question, "Can we get a dog," forming in the minds of my wife and kids, so I beat them to it and told her I would get her a dog for her birthday. It's 8 years later and she still thanks me! Of course, the dog has ruined the kitchen lino with his nails running in the house, but narry a mark on anything connected with audio - truly a good dog! :)
I am offended by the use of the ultra smarmy sideways smiley face: :). I can pretty much tolerate anything else.
Doug,
I dont think that killing your pet for damaging your speaker grills is an accepted response in most societies. I dont even want to go into how the cat met its demise. I doubt it was euthanized by a professional, but maybe.
I just think that if that is your response to a pet damaging your speaker grills, then you probably shouldnt have a pet. We have made certain animals our companions over the years, which I think creates certain mutual obligations. They dont bite us and we feed them. They stay at our homes and we dont eat them.

Funny though, how cats have a different effect on people than dogs. I know people in the rural areas that would shoot a cat for fun, but never a dog. Lots of people, mostly men, dont care for cats, but like dogs.

Ah, but I digress.

Wolf,
agree on the smarmy side smiley face.