"Be best."
Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?
Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.
@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"
What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.
Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?
Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated
There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?
What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?
Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?
A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.
Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”
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am not in the minory relatively to a party or in the majority , i despise political borderline because they are UPROOTED from reality... BIDEN/TRUMP affair means nothing anywhere on the globe now... Correct
[I was behind Nobel prize winner Luc Montagnier and Didier Raoult FROM THE BEGINNING, not Fauci monstruous action clear for all eyes to see now...] Correct
[This is a reflection about Trump/Biden parties not about REALITY IN THE WORLD...You are so politically deluded you really think Trump/Biden are real and not puppets...] Correct
I'd also like to think that it was patently clear by now that there are forces operating above the accepted Left/Right dichotomy, but alas apparently not.
Nevertheless, I can't remember anything that Biden has ever said that seems worth committing to memory but that tweet of Trump's still resonates. "In reality they're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way."
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Sorry i read books and listen music... I am not on twitter, facebook or any social medias.. You mimic nonoise political folly... I despise Trump but i am against his censorship yes... i despise Biden too... |
Are you another paranoiac? What in the hell are the reason to accuse me of that? i NEVER ask for censorship on any post here in 8 years..
You pick the wrong dude my friend... I like to discuss unlike our friend nonoise who is ALWAYS RIGHT at the left part of the political wing and always in a war... discussing is not a war, it is an exhange of arguments and perspective in a friendly manner... |
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Take one of my post and take a point and try to contradict me... We will discuss... If you are not able to do that refrain your insult my friend... my post may be boring yes, why not? I am a human but they are not ALWAYS bs... I invite you to discuss if you are able ...
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For sure i proved you right... I am sure that i did that... Why do you think paranoiac political one or whatever are always proven right? 😁😊 Where are your arguments about my point? No argument only a labelling name: cultist.... Grow a brain if you have no heart and only like to divide people in two factions.. Myself i speak with left or right people and dont accept political insults for me or for others...I prefer argument out of political propaganda... Call me a man from the moon, with pedantic tendencies, it is not false... 😊😊😊😊 At least i dont label people ...It is my point... Discussion with arguments out of political myopia...it is not for your taste why? In war there is no neutrality and you are at war for sure...And your are right and anyone out of your propaganda wrong... I know...Simple paranoiac game.. ok i will mute myself... It serve no purpose to go further...
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Complete political paranoia... I spoke to you LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL, not like a number in the crowd of your political enemies...Or a "cultist"...If whom anyway? Trump? 😁😊 if i am not for Biden i am for Trump? what ridiculous logic... I spoke to you about the bad idea to polarize threads with right/left political labelling names... You are more silly than i was thinking... By the way i dont like Trump but i am against his forced exclusion of youtube or twitter... I guess that in your political obsessive delirium you will classify me with him... It serve no purpose to introduce these debates here ESPECIALLY if we are fanatic and unable to discuss save like in a war tactic fashion which is paranoia unleashed in your case.. Take philosophy course and let go politic... i was thinking few years ago that millercarbon was a political fanatic, he cannot hold a candle to you...i even can speak with him... 😁😊
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And the cultists come out of the shadows and follow in lockstep with someone they can hide behind, thinking that in numbers, they have strength. I know a lot of this, if not all, is not going over your heads. You just refuse to relate on what little points I've brought up, choosing, instead, to keep harping on what is not transpiring. Or you really are that obtuse. Seems to be you don't know how to walk backwards when you should. Reading around, I came across this piece by the former CEO of Reddit and it's a very informative read. Having read it, I've come to realize that what I said some months ago about leaving here is starting to make a lot of sense as it covers what I've been saying here, just now, in a more comprehensive manner. Come to think of it, It will most likely go over the very same heads I'm been arguing with but hopefully, some will give it a read and ponder. All the best, |
@nonoise +10K!
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The problem is some attack others here about this divide which is a sleepwalking conditioned state entertained by the unelected powers that are behind world events... And i prefer we all discuss peacefully without dividing ourself in these two ridiculous game called republican and democrat... We all have our prefered choices between democrat and republicans but that does not matter much at the end, why then insulting the other party members here ? children play....
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is it me or you who attack people to be trumpist all the time here?
I am not in the minory relatively to a party or in the majority , i despise political borderline because they are UPROOTED from reality... BIDEN/TRUMP affair means nothing anywhere on the globe now...
Last line of defense about what? 😊 I dont argue small politic then i dont need a " line of defense "...Do you think we are in a continuous party political debate you and me ? lolll Ask to all those you condemned to be on the wrong side of US politic in the last years who is "political" propagandist here and who is not between you and me ...I talk to everyone whatever the party... True politic is not republican versus democrat.... Awake...
you have no idea what i think about covid for two reasons... first our vision of the crisis EVOLVED in these ongoing 2 years event now, and second i was proposing vaxx. for at risk people ONLY and no FORCED mandate vaccinations for ALL...This is the perspective which made sense for most scientists and people now...I was behind Nobel prize winner Luc Montagnier and Didier Raoult FROM THE BEGINNING, not Fauci monstruous action clear for all eyes to see now...
What you say here has nothing to do with me ... This is a reflection about Trump/Biden parties not about REALITY IN THE WORLD...You are so politically deluded you really think Trump/Biden are real and not puppets... Who give a damn about your counties analysis? Did i say you were wrong about that? No on the opposite i say that you are right but it is MEANINGLESS to understand the WORLD reality... You only are interested by dividing people here and promote your TRUTH : Biden against Trump... Children play .... Read books quit american news propaganda on all news asset... It is the same in canada where Trudeau gives 600 millions dollars each year subventions for all newspapers... Do you think that truth can be seen in any official news? Quit politic study philosophy and begin to love even Millercarbon...Or any trumpist... It will be an exercise... Try it... The brain work better when we love each other... 😁😊
«Only an ostrich think everyone is a troll»-Groucho Marx 🤓
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No mahgister, it's you who makes this a political discussion, not me. You simply fail (on purpose it seems) to conflate politics with a point of view, every single time you're in the minority or just flat out wrong. It's your last line of defense, to claim someone is being political when they're not. That is exactly what you did when the great debate raged on about Covid and vaccines. You were dead wrong so your only ploy was to accuse others of being political, which was silly. If one were to use a Venn diagram, the overlap with the general population would greatly overlap that of one particular party while the other one would barely do so, to the point where both circles would look almost adjacent. From that, you conclude that it's politics when one side is, for the most part, accurately reflecting the views of the people while the other is just creating their own, alternative universe, which you seem to relish living in. So stop with your tiresome tactics and use of smoke and mirrors. All the best,
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What is with all this political garbage? Like a pack of jackal's. Now back on topic what ever happened to the free exchange of ideas and theory. If you are not on onside or the other you are called a charlatan, ignorant, or indignant. Then there are the flies that hang around the jackals looking to get their little shot or bite in. But most of time they hang around the bungholes of the jackals waiting for their dinner. One should be able to express their feeling on a subject without getting nipped at by jackals and flies. My Father taught me that when we were fishing that when an alewife hit your line or a sucker fish (carp) you real it in a whack it against the hull and feed it to the Gulls. Otherwise it will just go back and hit your line again and again. Need to quit throwing the suckers a line.
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Any car may be plugged into some pretty fancy tech analyser equipment to assess its performance and tuning characteristics. But a full test is usually only done with performance cars where these things are important to the users for reasons. Get those measurements right and there is confidence about its desired characteristics even before it hits the track.
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Your answer made it clear that you dont get my point at all about a larger perspective in the world... You reduce it to a Trump/ Biden divide... It is not even wrong it is small potatoes in this actual crisis... Who in the entire world bother about a politic system controlled by invisible actors ? Everybody suffer on the planet because these real UNELECTED actors play their game even through insignificant political games here in Canada and in the US...
Only people who are brainwashed by news think that parties line matter now...
My point was: do not politicize the forum, and divide your american fellows, take them on the larger picture and this has nothing to do with the news in the USA... Stop condemning people of the minority party here... Help all to take a larger perspective...Take a point of view OVER the parties line...A view which will make sense ALSO in all part of the world not in your county only... Then you will not ostracize those who vote Trump....Trump is an invonvenient farce for some, Biden is a convenient farce for some... Thats all... Clowns are not real actors...They are played... There is almost no troll here only some ostrichs.... When men are UPROOT from Nature and put to work for Abstract universal agenda by unelected powerful actors, (covid crisis, war) party line in Us or in Canada seems preposterous...If you are unable to see that you are lost even with the right numbers like in your last posts... Numbers dont matter listen with your heart... Party line politic is like party lines in audio ridiculous... Acoustic and geopolitic explain thing not the parties... There is an unlected new party on the block: transhumanism , the union of technology and greed and control, watch this ... Trump and Biden are already dead they are sleepwalkers like Trudeau Macron ... The world reacted with old cultures first , orthodox Tsar Putrin, Emperor XI, Guru Modi, these cultures are THOUSAND year old and more etc how many people are not in this ridiculous puppets world of Occidental new world order conditioning, a march to uproot all humans from their history, humanity and from their own culture? Why do you think we march through pandemy, war, climate crisis, financial apocalypse? Bad luck? Think twice... Forget Trump/Biden clowns think....And you will never go back to ideology...And condemn anyone here to be blind... We are all blind but some guess about their blindspot others dont...
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Is that you, Monster Cables, Inc.? How are things? I am so glad to have cables like yours, I find that ALL of my electrons are tanned, rested, and ready to ROCK once they get to the end of your cables! |
Canadian are not better for sure.... We are all in the same boat here, same blind spot in the 2 countries... But i will not discuss politic here... I only want to give you my hat and deepest respect... asvjerry
«Each meaning is an angle, and we are forming together the same circle»-Anonymus Egyptian priest «Wait, there is no angle where i am»-Groucho Marx 🤓 «You mean the center?»-Harpo Marx «I think the diameter can serve as a mediation between opposite brothers »-Chico Marx «This become chinese now»-Groucho Marx 🤓 |
@mahgister +1K "...the complete myopia of most americans about their politics..their blind spot so to speak..." ...not to mention the plethora of other subjects we slept through the ragged excuse of mass education that we've been extruded through....but one should only not let the sheep drift too far... "Truth?! You can't handle the Truth!" ..it does seem that way....way too much so...:( |
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Unlike you i can admit my limitations.. I am very glad to say that you are not completely wrong here about me... Yes i think that i can be "predictable" i guess after 7 thousand posts and more... Sorry to be boring at times ... "Pedantic" ?.... yes i guess it comes from my 35 years in student counselling...And i love too much litterature, art, sciences, philosophy and i had the tendencies to use quotes or create mine... It may seems a bit pedantic indeed ... i am guilty...but i hope to be not ALWAYS pedantic ? 😊 The students forgave me all that alas! And i could not improve much...They forgave me because i am enthusiastic mind and i liked to recognize their personality good points...Then they pass over my defects i guess ... "Clueless" ? Sometimes yes, like you are yourself on some matter... i am guitly too sometimes certainly...I dont want to contradict you here... 😁 Yes for this one too : " waiting to pounce on matters you’re not very well versed on." I discussed here with someone 1 years or more ago on his expertise subject matter in audio, and i learned a lot through the process and i thank him sincerely for his patience because i dare to contradict him about a concept and i learned a lot in the process and i thank him for the gift of his time ... I am like you said... This comes from my relation with all students in all fields for 35 years...My worst problem is my too much liking about discussion... But i know when i am wrong and recognize it...Give me that... You have seen trough me... 😋😊 i cannot hide myself.... Congratulations!
Now take a mirror and try the same lucid observation on you ... It is not necessary to deliver the result to me... Only think twice before accusing others of trolling, and before despising someone because they are not from YOUR political agenda or party...You have practice these accusations without end here... The world crisis is impossible to understand with Biden/Trump polarizations... We need something a bit more larger for perspective......
I must confess something here...It is not your fault completely.. But any discussion about American politics annoy me particularly nowadays in this world crisis... Then i pick up your political persona or stance often in this thread, like a scapegoat hiding a bigger problem : the complete myopia of most americans about their politics..their blind spot so to speak... i apologize for my impatience...
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I'm going to go against the flow and say I do not believe in free speech when the speech is only to antagonise. I think we give too many trolls room to breath because of "free speech". If it's genuine opinion they're posting then all good, but otherwise, off with their heads. And yes there's heaps of snake oil out there. Companies make money from people passionate about hobbies and they often aren't too bothered by honesty. |
*sigh* Always disappointing how 'religious holidays' seem to bring out the 'drunk Unk' to the table, bitchin' about how the beans give you gas while he's fouled his Depends.... Why there seems to be a tendency to couple ones' audio prefs to political stance may have some validity, but still seems a 'boarding house reach' that pleases no one. Tossing race into the lumpy soiled stew just invalidates rationality for all involved, loss of focus blinding one to the oak tree ahead.,,, "I'm not black, but sometimes I'm not proud of being white..." Thanks, Frank....and placing ones' hand on a typical sheet of blank copy paper proves that whole 'concept' as stupid...unless one is albino.... ...then you have different issues to cope with.... We're all at our best when we can keep our frontal lobes In Front on the issue, and ignore the lizard brain stem that just yearns to Bite. Arguments Occur. Hardwired in the DNA, no way to delay trouble everyday. No excuse for stoking the fire into a virtual F2F hissy fit on this playground. If you can't play fair, go bench for awhile.... Humanity has enough real problems ongoing....leave 'em at the door, Please. Happy Easter. Stop painting the eggs black. |
