when the herb kicked in and your rig sounds perfect
It’s 9:35 PM.
We spend so much time searching for that prefect sound and let me tell you something. Right now at 9:35pm, My under watted class D audioengine N22 amp hooked up to my Cambridge azur 551 preamp, from my project debut carbon and ortofon red hooked up with Amazon speaker wire to my KEF Q150s and my old Yamaha subwoofer spinning black pumas on an acrylic player.... ....Sounds absolutely incredible. Enjoy. Don’t be critics fellas. Ride the wave......
You are not helping your cause. Many drugs are extracts of plants, and other life forms. That it starts as a weed does not negate that it has drugs in it. That statement is a sign of weakness.
I don't see anyone in this threat extolling the virtues of alcohol consumption as an elixir of life. I think most are aware of the dangers of alcohol, but alcoholics will be the first to say they don't have a problem. Some success in life is not evidence of never using drugs. Who knows what you could have achieved without, or perhaps the weed is masking an underlying never treated issue.
With odd exception, I don't see anyone suggesting more legal implications for Cannabis use. What most are saying, is ignore the facts at your own peril. Cannabis is essentially a drug, that is why you smoke it after all, and while it may make you mellow, for some people it becomes a problem, even an addiction, and there is growing evidence of damage to developing brains. Like alcohol, moderation, and be aware of the risk, don't pretend they don't exist. stereo5, your outbursts, are supporting my argument.
That is all well and good stereo5 but if we start limiting discussion to facts and logic where will it end? Take away incessant blather, there goes half the content. At least.
Sorry, but I am afraid we will just have to do as usual and scan past the worst of it. Frankly, I find the drug blather only about as blathery as the usual blather.
This thread is full of arm chair experts on Cannabis use, especially the ones who know nothing about it, have never used it, and are parroting what the government liars have said. The real reason Cannabis was banned was because in the early 1900’s, the head of the food and drug agency in this country said and I quote “Cannabis is very dangerous because when white women smoke it, it makes them want to have sex with black men. That and only that is the reason it was banned.
Furthermore, many of you “experts” most likely consume alcohol, some a lot more than others. Who are you to preach? I will state that I have indulged on a daily basis for 50 years. I was successful in life, always had a long term job, married for 44 years so far, brought up 2 great kids, retired and have money in the bank. It never made me want to try something else, never made me skip work, never interfered in my day to day life or my family’s.
stereo5, qjm101 is 100% right. Of course cannabis is a psychoactive drug, and if it wasn't, nobody would use it. It's active on other things too, like your lungs. I guess the long term will tell if 'edibles" are safer.
I am not inclined to tell adults what to do when the only person they are hurting is themselves. We do have a duty of care to our children though, so promoting false information about dangers is breaking that duty of care, especially given the significant body of evidence forming that Cannabis use can cause developmental damage in growing brains, made worse where a predisposition to a mental health issue already exists. We know now that the brain keeps developing till about the age of 25, so caution is a more intelligent course of behavior.
"psychoactive drug? THC at best relaxes the body, I never had a psychoactive experience, ever. Have you tried it or just repeating what people who gaslight tell you?"
You are confusing 'psychoactive' with 'psychotic'.
While there are other studies, smaller in nature that suggest Cannabis is simply an indicator or other issues, many other studies have concluded otherwise, hence to claim that "There are simply zero reliable "longitudinal studies" showing increased death from cannabis use...none. Period." is troubling.
I clearly said that 25% of users (regular) exhibited some sort of problem, which does not mean addicted. Somewhere around 10% of regular users are identified to have a problematic dependency and 2% to have what would be identified as a chemical addiction.
There are simply zero reliable "longitudinal studies" showing increased death from cannabis use...none. Period. And there is also zero evidence of physical addiction to cannabis unlike alcohol...this sort of nonsense comes up here and there and it’s simply silliness unsupported by facts. A 25% addiction rate is pure fiction...nobody gets delirium tremors or "cold turkey" sickness when stopping even heavy use of pot...nobody anywhere ever. I remember years ago when some emergency room patients in CT had blood tests revealing cannabis in their systems (which can show up days after consumption) and that generated a headline stating that "Pot use leads to emergency rooms." Yeah...that...keep away from stoned chain saw use...
(I know....just being an 'extremist' here, but it struck me 🤪....)
BTW....I 'grew up' with 'mj', as alcohol was a PIA to procure.....and easier to obtain (@ least in SoCA....
I always disliked the effects drinking 'gifted' me with, although time 'n tide have allowed 'preferences' to exhibit. Allows for 'something' betwixt....*S*
Personally, I've always viewed my 'preference' for a lightweight consumable as a Public Service... ...keeping it out of the hands, lungs, and esp. the minds of those who would simply and mindlessly Abuse It, potentially getting their aze in trouble or rubble.
Now...if one wants to light up and vague out with the hifi-er, Great. Wonderful thing to do....
Only one better, but having an 'associate' assist and participate is best. Doesn't generally last as long as an lp, or steaming (definitely....having tried....*G*...the latter....)....and your results may vary.....;)
"My, how fortunate I am to be associated with all of the "Superior" beings an Agon, but, I'm from a different generation, one that considered the fact that some people were born less fortunate than others, and those people need help from those who had the good luck of being born more fortunate."
Yes, they need help. And that help is a good thing as long as that help is voluntary and not done under the implied threat of violence through a third party. The 13th Amendment not only outlawed slavery but also outlawed involuntary servitude as well.
I deplore, I detest, I down right hate that statement "Share The Wealth". It implies that someone who is unemployed wants you to "give" him a handout. That statement is very demeaning to someone who can't find a job and needs help.
I am of the "create opportunities" generation. Rebuild the infrastructure, meaning bridges that will save lives, and those people who work on the construction will not need anyone's "handouts".
Back in the 70s we bought Altec Lansing Drivers and built speaker boxes to Altec Specs. Powered by a Marantz receiver, Denon turn table with a Shure V15 type III cartridge. Have friends over and we would sip a beer and partake a little "Herb." When you were fully relaxed we would take off our shoes and socks and face the bottoms of our feet towards the speakers. You could not only hear the tunes but feel the vibes!! Still enjoy the Alltecs, now with a cup of tea!!
My, how fortunate I am to be associated with all of the "Superior"
beings an Agon, but, I'm from a different generation, one that
considered the fact that some people were born less fortunate than
others, and those people need help from those who had the good luck of
being born more fortunate.
Interesting, you must be much younger than the average Audiogon user. Younger generations are more altruistic, and share the wealth more.
Reefer Madness is an impeccably researched documentary. Marijuana addicts attempts to discredit it only show their minds are controlled by the demon weed. https://youtu.be/NKID2LRzIdY?t=52
Some of the posters need to jump off their moralistic pedestals and take a chill pill... or a couple of puffs. Some of these posters are parroting nonsense, right out of "Reefer Madness." If you can't share the pleasure that Stewey is enjoying, which I have experienced over the past 50 years, then just move on. I imagine if you met Stewey, you would enjoy his company. A bit of bud while listening to his audio system clearly gives him joy, which our quest participating on this forum. Why flame the fella for a personal choice? There are many paths to enlightenment so please refrain from casting aspersions on others who travel a different path.
@steweygatz, There was nothing wrong with your OP. Going off topic and degenerating into arguments is common for threads here no matter what the subject.
Your OP was refreshing as it dealt with enjoying music in a noncompetitive way. It would be nice to see more posts like that. So stick around and don't let anyone kill your buzz.
Get where you're coming from tweak1, but take away pure ignorance, what's he got left? So sad as it seems I am afraid we will just have to cut him some slack on this one. Well, and every one. 😂
and anyone else who hasn't smoked. Making definitive derogatory statements about smoking is pure ignorance
I listen both ways. More often than not, I am much more aware of the ebb and flow as well as the feeling than I am straight, but I still find listening straight enjoyable hth
I found it most interesting that absolutely no one linked drug addiction and other substance abuses to economic factors such as "poverty".
Almost overnight, Detroit was left without jobs. How does one earn a living if there are no jobs? All over this country there are many "Detroits".
Can anyone imagine the psychological stress caused by homelessness? Most here don't care, just get them off the street and out of sight.
My, how fortunate I am to be associated with all of the "Superior" beings an Agon, but, I'm from a different generation, one that considered the fact that some people were born less fortunate than others, and those people need help from those who had the good luck of being born more fortunate.
Longitudinal studies of all cause mortality has shown increased death due to cannabis consumption, however, its usage is far lower than alcohol, and not "mainstream", so comparatively, I am not sure comparisons are easy.
Cannabis, like alcohol is absolutely addictive, but similar to alcohol is not addictive to everyone. I think around 25% is the accepted stat of uses who have some level of problem, which I don't believe is too far off alcohol.
Alchohol annually kills 70,000 or so people in this country alone, and pot hasn't been shown to have killed anybody anywhere. You can't say that about many common drugs including aspirin. It's by definition "non toxic" and has the unique properties of not being physically addictive (you may be mentally "addicted" to all sorts of things but that's absolutely not the same) and self limiting, in that generally being too high is uncomfortable (common when taken as an "edible" as the way your body processes pot through the digestive system is different from the lungs). Those are the facts. I smoke my legal weed here and there including when listening to music, and, of course, know many other successful and brilliant adults who enjoy it. The opiate scourge rages on amongst those unfortunate enough to be trapped in that habit, but other than being therapeutic for some in recovery, pot plays no role in that stuff. Get ready for the surge in therapeutic psychedelics as they've been shown to provide near miraculous results in relieving depression and addiction, among other things.
I was tickled with my system while a little inebriated the other night. It was CBC radio 2 playing Chick Corea's Now he sings, Now he sobs. Fantastic, the thing with being a bit "loose" for me is the ability to really get down with what the artist was driving at. I can tune out the white noise and easily listen without judgement. What a solid, solid album. Thanks be to the CBC!
My apologies to the forum for the inexplicable and inadvertent turn for the worse on the commentary and incessant debate throughout this thread. You know who you are. And thanks to those who do get what I was trying to explain. Really the post that kicked this all off has little to do with Herb, only that I was hyper focused on how great the music was. Ultimately it’s all about the music and what it invokes in us, and the goosebumps it gives. At some point, after all the research, technical specs, listening rooms, loaner equipment, and demonstrations... whatever it is that you plug in and power on, try and hear the forest through the trees and enjoy it.
Cleeds, I
do not care what Wikipedia or any other publications stand. In my
experience, it relaxes me ... I use it for
all the pain my arthritis causes me ... Besides that, it puts me in a better
mood and allows me to enjoy the music so much more.
I think that's great - I'm among those in favor of legal marijuana and I supported its legalization where I live. Sooner or later, the federal government will have to catch up to the rest of us and change banking rules to accommodate the cannabis trade. But I believe in facts, and your claim that marijuana is not a drug is absurdly wrong. To promote marijuana use while denying that it's a drug is simply not responsible, imo:
Cannabis is neither a drug or a narcotic ... @cleeds, psychoactive drug?
THC at best relaxes the body, I never had a psychoactive experience,
ever.
Stewey, a very long time ago, I had equipment that was less than yours, but it sounded better than the "Audiophile high end" equipment that I have now.
My preference at that time was "hash and Courvoisier". I can still savor the sweet fragrance of that combination in my mind. I was employed as an electronics technician then. Not that it makes any difference, only to let people know that I was not engaged in perverse activities.
It's quite apparent to me, that these are the same people commenting on this thread who comment on "mega buck equipment" that they've never even gotten close to.
As long as you're young and healthy enough; "If smoking weed is your groove, groove on".
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