The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....


New SR BLUE fuse thread ...

I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.

1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.

2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.

3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.

I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.

4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.

Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...

Overall impressions:

Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.

Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.

Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)

Frank

PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.

Frank



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Sometimes the best tactic for a tweak manufacturer is provide a lot without providing anything. I always counsel the less said the better. Keep em guessin. No matter what you say there will always be a bunch of knuckleheads and pseudoskeptics lurking around who will attempt to debunk it. Sure as shootin. Besides, loose lips sink 🚢
I always counsel the less said the better.
I’m sure you do.  But you sure have a lot to say yourself.

No matter what you say there will always be a bunch of knuckleheads and pseudoskeptics lurking around who will attempt to debunk it.

Don’t you hate when that happens! You need your own planet (or thread) with a bunch of hand chosen followers. Problem solved!
I think I see the problem, moopman. You’re following the wrong....you know...

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Don’t follows leaders, watch the parkin’ meters. 👀

Think of me as the friendly Forest Gump of advanced audio concepts.

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uberwaltz - .....It almost makes me embarrassed to have to keep saying they work in my system but they do to my ears....
@uberwaltz

Hi uberwaltz. Despite the fact you and I are on opposite sides of the fence where fuses are concerned, I’m sure I don’t have to remind you we’ve had honest and friendly back-and-forth in this thread. So, it’s with respect that I submit to you I completely understand your position. It works! I can hear a difference! Therefore, everything else is essentially irrelevant.

That said, when I asked if you performed a "blind test", you were candid and forthright to indicate that you did not.

Wouldn’t it behoove you to do so? If your honest (with yourself in this case), I simply cannot understand why you wouldn’t.

Thanks.

mapman,

I am not a fan of the way SR markets their products, but the results people get from using them, in their own systems, are completely independent of how they are marketed.
geoffkait - ....Don’t follows leaders, watch parking meters....
Geoff, remember Amy > Bob > Amy > Bob 🤪

Oh, my! That’s so deep. If it gets any deeper in here I’ll have to put on my old hip waders. 
Mapman
Yes I know that was direct from SR website but I Think you could be right that is just some marketing Joe spelling it out.

I miss the pit girls! Always worked for me!
You the worst of the "Awesome Foursome" and are technically inept. All you have is "snake oil" as that's all you can present.
At least I can follow a conversation to stay on topic.

By the way, if "Awesome Foursome" is an analogy to the Musketeers, does that make you Cardinal Wishiknew?

All the best,
Nonoise
geoffkait - Oh, my! That’s so deep. If it gets any deeper in here I’ll have to put on my old hip waders.

Well, I guess you didn't pick up on the fact that I instantly recognized a quote of yours earlier in the thread as belonging to the Bob Dylan song "Subterranean Homesick Blues".

I keep forgetting, you don't actually listen to music. So it's no surprise you wouldn't have known. 😜
Uberwaltz 4-20-2018
TBH that SR blurb sounds more like the sort of nonsense I would expect some other members to come out with than any worthwhile technical info.
They would likely be better off saying nothing than some techno babble that has very little meaning.
+1.

@mapman, in response to the query to me in your post earlier today, I can’t really add much to what I’ve said in my lengthy posts in this thread on April 4th, 6th, and 12th. I’ll emphasize one of the thoughts that I expressed in the first of those posts, though, as well as in various other fuse-related threads in the past, that what puzzles me is not the idea that a fuse can make a difference. But rather that a specific fuse would make a positive difference with the high degree of consistency that has been reported, among components that perform completely different functions; that are completely different in design; that are used in completely different systems; that are powered by AC having very different voltage and noise characteristics; that are used in DC, AC, internally regulated, and internally unregulated circuit applications; and that are used in applications in which the fuse conducts current that is essentially constant at all times as well as in applications where the current fluctuates with the dynamics of the music.

Although as I said in my April 4th post it stands to reason, IMO, that **some** of the reported benefits are the result of the various factors I cited that are unrelated to the intrinsic properties of the fuse.

Finally, I have no idea what the phrase "inductive quantum coupling" may mean, if anything.

Best regards,
-- Al

Al

Inductive quantum coupling

Reminds me of Star Trek..

I canna stop it capain, she's gonna blow!

Almarg,

You and I are on the same page regarding fuses. Don’t know what else to say.


Cheers!
almarg being on the same page as mapman can’t be a good thing, not from their perspective anyway. Looks like team takes one up the old wazoo. I don’t know what else to say. 😬
Quantum coupling will undoubtedly go down in annuals of audiophile history as one of the greatest strokes of genius, just in terms of coming up with a great name for something. Certainly a name that is both provocative and quite irritating to naysayers. Two for one! You know, what with a bazillion of their products sold that have Quantum Coupling applied. Credit where credit is due.

It doesn’t matter what you call it. The only thing that matters is how many you sell. Hel-loo! You guys seem to think this is some sort of Quantum Physics peer review. Give me a break! You guys can’t even figure out what the heck Graphene is for. Time to hang it up. Quick summary: Synergistic Research 200,000. Naysayers 0.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. - PT Barnum
GK

Truth pretty much always resides somewhere in the middle between  two extreme points of view.

That's the page I choose to be on.  

Also yesterday  I lobed a big fat softball right down your alley to knock out of the park and impress all and  you took it for a called strike.   Like you almost always do.   You better work on your swing.

Cheers!

Gdhal

I have no idea how I could even begin to do blind testing in my house.
Who would change fuses for me? My wife? She would blow herself up, or my equipment, not sure which would be more upsetting.....😇😇😇

More a case of logistics in my application of this matter.
Pretty big talk from a pseudo engineer, Moops. 😛 I certainly understand why you’re sitting on the fence of just about all the debates.

An an ordinary man has no means of deliverance. - old audiophile axiom
" Pretty big talk from a pseudo engineer "

Call it what you like but the pay is good.  Can't complain.  Add in my savings on fuses and maybe I can visit retirement city sometime soon.
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uberwaltz - I have no idea how I could even begin to do blind testing in my house.Who would change fuses for me? My wife?....

You're on the right track. By this I mean it certainly does require the assistance of another person whom you trust. Not knowing your particular circumstance, circle of friends, etc. I don’t know what else to suggest. A neighbor?

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gdhal
geoffkait - ...The only thing that matters is how many you sell. Hel-loo!...

Your quoted reply belies a response of yours in another thread where I mentioned (paraphrasing) that a for profit business is at play. Audioquest comes to mind. In that case you dismissed "selling", "business" and "profitability"entirely.

>>>>>I never said any such thing. I’m sure you’re hallucinating.

My quoted reply belies? Give me a break.

Nothing succeeds like success and failure is no success at all.

uberwaltz,

I'm in the same position regarding blind testing of some gear I own.
(Again, not that I blind test everything...only when I'm curious about or puzzled by something).

I went to town making an isolated platform for my Turntable.  I have no idea how I could blind test it with and without the platform in any remotely practical way. 

On the other hand, other gear is more amenable to blind testing, and I have an audio buddy who helps me out.  He helped me blind test my new music server a while back.  Blind testing can actually be a wonderful cure sometimes for "audiophile nervosa" :-)
I did a lot of a/b testing with the Red Fuse OP sent my way and my Audio Research sp16 pre-amp vendor stock fuse awhile back. Was not blind though. No assistant. I guess I could have dropped both in a bag, pick one out one at a time with gloves on and not look which it was, but the difference I heard, if any consistently, was so subtle, I deemed it insignificant and lost interest after a couple days. The setup was Squeezebox Touch to mhdt Constantine DAC to SP16 to Bel CAnto ref1000M amps to Dynaudio Contour 1.3 mkII speakers.  The fuse that came in teh sp16 looked to be of good quality and must have been since it sounded so much like the heralded (at the time) Red Fuse.
Exactly Mapman, just the way I did it, by myself with my ears and as some will insist, built in expectation bias.
But I perceived a not so subtle difference with black fuses.

Gdhal..
Please, what are friends?
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Prof
Unfortunately all neighbours are like 85 plus and zero interest in me or my toys.
Not one person I know in this country has the slightest interest in audio equipment.
Now some friends from back in Blighty do but 4000 miles is just a tad excessive.
Not one person I know in this country has the slightest interest in audio equipment.

I bet they have never seen a fancy fuse though. Not to mention one with graphene in there somewhere somehow coaxing that EM wave along. What could be more interesting then that? Just look at all the posts here! More than most anything! Explain it to them. It could flip them! You never know. Or they might have you committed. Especially if you tell them how much it cost.

If I had maybe actually paid for the fuse instead of getting a freeby maybe my tests would have yielded different results. Ya never know!


Maybe. Or if your hearing wasn’t shot. Ya never know!  Have you given any consideration to getting your ears candled? 🕯 Couldn’t hurt.
Maybe. Or if your hearing wasn’t shot. Have you given any consideration to getting your ears candled? 🕯 Couldn’t hurt.

My ears go in for maintenance regularly.  Don't want to miss a beat.  How about yours?
Mapman ...

If I had an extra BLUE fuse I'd sent it to you. Night and day over the RED fuse. No joke.

Frank
uberwaltz,

I'm sorry to hear that.   I think audiophiles are used to a certain amount of isolation given how niche this hobby is.  But some of us are fortunate to know another audiophile...or more.  Although I have some friends and family who can really get in to the great sound they hear at my place, there's only currently one friend of mine who is a fellow audiophile and who gets it.  It is great having someone to call up and blather on about this stuff.  Vs the eye-rolling from my wife....:-)
I’ve met a few very nice audiophiles that live nearby here on Agon and had them over for a joint listening session. It is fun. One day we’ll compare fuses maybe....
Please, mapman, pretty please!?  Pretty please with peanut butter on top! Sob! 😭 Gag me with a spoon. 
Gk if you learn to talk nice I might even consider (gasp) having YOU over someday! That is of course if you will agree to go through my security scanner and thorough sterilization procedure first. Hope those are not too many conditions! Can’t be too careful these days.  If Trump and Un can get along these days I'm sure we can too as long as you agree to my conditions.
Mapman
I am in both camps
Paid for 2 black fuses(BAT power amp)
Had another black fuse given me.(exogal DAC)
Maybe I am bias, who knows.
Who even cares......

Not even sure my English acquaintances know what a fuse is, we used to just bend nails to fit......
Course had to be careful whether used galvanised or stainless......

Potential fuser’s thinking of blowing $150 for a $2 fuse, because of the waffling’s of the "Awesome Foursome" here.
Should take a look at the other "snake oil" posts they are into, and then make a sane guess as to whether they can be believed.

Just for an example, look at the ’snake oil" geoffkiat peddles here on his website, then ask yourself, is this ??????

https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina6.htm

https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm

Cheers George
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Hey, George, if you’re angling to catch a break on the price of some of my tweaks you’re definitely going about it the right way. Plus I’m giving serious consideration to promoting you to Senior Shill.


He thinks if he causes enough stink here with his belligerent antisocial behaviour and rants the mods will shut down the thread again and he will have succeeded in his mission.
Spot on observation @uberwaltz. Earlier on, in this thread, he boasted of shutting down two threads on fuses and seems really pissed off that this one (of the two) was reopened.

All the best,
Nonoise
Nonoise

Exactly, I was a bit slow to catch on to his mind games there.
Well its not going to happen on my watch.
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OP thanks but once to the well is enough for me.   My fuses are just fine!
The Cliff Notes printed book version of this thread will be coming out soon for those maybe already wasting too much time thinking about  fuses.
The Cliff Notes printed book version of this thread will be coming out soon for those maybe already wasting too much time thinking about fuses
Thanks for the chuckles, and for the Cliff Notes reference.....
Actually I think Fox are considering a mini series.....
I hope they can be fair and balanced....
prof - ...Blind testing can actually be a wonderful cure sometimes for "audiophile nervosa" :-)....
Hi @prof

Undoubtedly you already know I’m in agreement with everything you’ve posted in this thread. In the case of your above quoted statement, I would like to submit that you’ve made an error.

It should read:

Blind testing **IS ALWAYS** a wonderful cure for "audiophile nervosa" :-)..
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