The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....


New SR BLUE fuse thread ...

I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.

1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.

2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.

3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.

I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.

4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.

Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...

Overall impressions:

Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.

Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.

Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)

Frank

PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.

Frank



128x128oregonpapa
@crazyeddy, 

No need to walk on eggshells when evaluating the fuses, or go to great lengths to insure you end up doubting yourself. Trust your ears and let us know what you hear. 

All the best,
Nonoise
It's been so long since we've read from GK, I'm beginning to think he's on vacation  🤣
Good luck with the fuses Eddy

Kudos to you for having the nads to take a leap of faith and actually TRY them unlike some members.....
And to post here your intentions likely knowing the feeding frenzy this would induce in certain members.....
Please keep us updated on your progress
david_ten - @crazyeddy Cool. Look forward to hearing your take.

+1 

However, there is something that IMO crazyeddy should keep in mind. And that would be there are plenty of non-favorable words mentioned in this thread, in addition to the favorably words he/she eludes to. 

Succinctly, please be reminded that you also should have read that expectation bias is at play. Therefore, please be honest with yourself, which realistically can only happen given a blind test. 
It's humorous that noise was mentioned, and no one jumped on it. Yes, this is why there isn't a huge power conditioner industry with measurements to back them. 🙄😁
I must say gdhal, yours and George's links are first rate.  Kind of makes geoff's oft used little sheep following the oft used wrong-way little men appear pictorially wanting.
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gdhal

@geoffkait

I note you had a post of mine removed. It gets under your skin when I write the truth, hey? 😏

Why would I do that, spaceman? I oft get a chuckle, unintended though it may be, from your posts. Is it true when you lie your pants really are on 🔥? Plus it gives me a reason to call someone a knucklehead. I get the feeling there’s a vacation in your future. 🏄‍♂️
I have just ordered some of the Blue fuses. I have never experimented with fuses before, so this will be a new experience for me. I'm hoping that fuse replacement is a good as is mentioned on these pages. I plan to replace the stock fuses in my ARC LS-27, and my Manley Steelhead, and am anxiously awaiting delivery. My thoughts are that the relatively low cost of this tweak, in relation to the components price points, is insignificant, so what do I have to lose. If I hear improvements, great. If not, no big deal, I'm not out that much $$
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geoffkait ...What would constitute proof? ....

Listen blind to Amy > Bob > Amy > Bob repeat a few more times and determine if you can guess right or not.

fleschler
My friend/manufacturer thinks graphene is a joke, TC is a joke.....BUT he absolutely is convinced that the SR fuse and duplexes are NO joke. He doesn’t know why the fuse makes a difference except for the possibility that the SR fuse transfers more A/C current through than a cheap, thin wired fuse. He proved that by using a circuit breaker (he didn’t know whether it is magnetic or thermal type) with a large contact area that works as good as an SR Blue fuse.

>>>>We already know a few reasons why fancy fuses are no joke. There is really no reason for speculation any more. Using a circuit breaker doesn’t prove anything. There are many explanations why circuit breakers might be better than fuses. We already knew that. We already know that eliminating the fuse/fuse holder is better than any fuse, too. And that bipassing the fuse with a solid fat wire is better, well, maybe. Better than a stock fuse, anyway.

That your friend would think Graphene is a joke seems a little odd. Most people grasp that concept pretty easily. Must be the audio manufacturer syndrome I was talking about. 😀

Here’s the link to the wiki page on Graphene applications. Now your friend has something to go on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_applications_of_graphene

Your humble scribe
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georgehifi

Just another bit of "snake oil" you fuser’s need so you get those pesky fuses burnt in before the 30 day return period runs out. Good luck with that.

Settle down, George. I tried reversing the 4 stock fuses in my 5-year old Fulton speakers to establish their directionality. I was thus able to establish the correct direction for all 4 fuses. No big deal. So I absolutely doubt that age has anything to do with it. How about them 🍎 🍏 🍎? Maybe you could try coming up with a dopier theory.

Don’t follow leaders, watch the parkin’ meters.

uberwaltz
Had to Google " spruiking"!

Would you by any chance be a fellow countryman to George?

>>>>Uh, he already said he is. The question is whether they’re related. 

amg56
@geoffkait Obviously you don’t either. I heard it’s a trade secret, until our Eastern friends copy it.

>>>>Another clue for you all. Some users of TC have painted the end caps of their Blue Fuses for further gains in performance. So, obviously SR does not (rpt not) apply Graphene to the fuse caps, either inside or outside the fuse. Ah, sweet mystery of life.

Was the person you heard it’s a trade secret from also a civil engineer? An Australian? 😁

Another clue for you all. The Walrus was Paul.

Our Eastern friends? You mean in New Jersey? 😀

Next up, multiple choice?

Just another bit of "snake oil" you fuser’s need so you get those pesky fuses burnt in before the 30 day return period runs out. Good luck with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud2n7Mut13s


Cheers George
amg56 ...

The "proof" is in the hearing. 30 day return policy on SR fuses, remember? 

As far as the TC is concerned, there is more to be gained from that product than from the fuses ... and that's saying a lot.

Frank
@geoffkait Obviously you don't either. I heard it's a trade secret, until our Eastern friends copy it.
amg56
@geoffkait

I think there are more who are not using SR fuses for the reason of no proof than the few spruiking them on this thread. Same with TC.

>>>>Do you mean proof or evidence? There is evidence that something is going on. What proof is there of anything in this hobby? What would constitute proof?

I haven’t seen any factual industrial or scientific proof on either products. Just a lot of here-say. I asked for proof and got nothing. Do you have it?

>>>>>I’m afraid that’s often the case with new tweaks. There’s no proof. You call it here-say (sic). I call it evidence. We get a lot of demands fior proof these days, it seems. Relax, this isn’t rocket science or a cure for cancer we’re talking about. It might be a good idea to do some due diligence on the subject before clos8ng your mind. You apparently are still unaware of what Graphene actually is.




Had to Google " spruiking"!

Would you by any chance be a fellow countryman to George?

@geoffkait 

I think there are more who are not using SR fuses for the reason of no proof than the few spruiking them on this thread. Same with TC.

I haven't seen any factual industrial or scientific proof on either products. Just a lot of here-say. I asked for proof and got nothing. Do you have it?

 

My friend/manufacturer thinks graphene is a joke, TC is a joke, SR HFTs, Blackbox and Atmosphere are jokes BUT he absolutely is convinced that the SR fuse and duplexes are NO JOKES.  This is a guy who wouldn't listen to CDs until 15 years ago when he rebuilt a CD player to make CDs sound like analog (we both agree on that and have huge collections of CDs and records-OP is using his rebuilt CD  player).  He doesn't know why the fuse makes a difference except for the possibility that the SR fuse transfers more A/C current through than a cheap, thin wired fuse.  He proved that by using a circuit breaker (he didn't know whether it is magnetic or thermal type) with a large contact area that works as good as an SR Blue fuse.  
amg56
I still do not have an eloquent answer for why fuses or graphene at the ends of contact points work in the way of the lord. Next we will have sponsors walking on water.

>>>I’m pretty sure we’ve established that Graphene is not utilized at the end points. If I am not mistaken we’ve also established it is not used to enhance conductivity of the fuse.

amg56
I have heard to many spruikers, and have been ripped off by very few, to swallow the fuse and TC goo story.

>>>>Folks would be generally much better off if they believed in too much rather than too little. It’s customary to wait until after the test results before making one’s mind up so irreversibly. 🤓

@tommlion04-20-2018 11:28pm

It's not about trying something to see if it works for you. One only needs to go to your favourite HiFi store to try gear out. Not always do we walk back out with something. The more a product is stuffed down your throat, the less persuasive is the argument for the product.

I still do not have an eloquent answer for why fuses or graphene at the ends of contact points work in the way of the lord. Next we will have sponsors walking on water.

I have heard to many spruikers, and have been ripped off by very few, to swallow the fuse and TC goo story.

uberwaltz - Gdhal..Please, what are friends?
There are many definitions. I understand your point though. As I’ve continued to make reference to Bob Dylan throughout this thread, where (fuse) blind testing is concerned:

"You’re in the wrong place, my friend, you better leave"
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prof - ...Blind testing can actually be a wonderful cure sometimes for "audiophile nervosa" :-)....
Hi @prof

Undoubtedly you already know I’m in agreement with everything you’ve posted in this thread. In the case of your above quoted statement, I would like to submit that you’ve made an error.

It should read:

Blind testing **IS ALWAYS** a wonderful cure for "audiophile nervosa" :-)..
The Cliff Notes printed book version of this thread will be coming out soon for those maybe already wasting too much time thinking about fuses
Thanks for the chuckles, and for the Cliff Notes reference.....
Actually I think Fox are considering a mini series.....
I hope they can be fair and balanced....
The Cliff Notes printed book version of this thread will be coming out soon for those maybe already wasting too much time thinking about  fuses.
OP thanks but once to the well is enough for me.   My fuses are just fine!
Nonoise

Exactly, I was a bit slow to catch on to his mind games there.
Well its not going to happen on my watch.
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He thinks if he causes enough stink here with his belligerent antisocial behaviour and rants the mods will shut down the thread again and he will have succeeded in his mission.
Spot on observation @uberwaltz. Earlier on, in this thread, he boasted of shutting down two threads on fuses and seems really pissed off that this one (of the two) was reopened.

All the best,
Nonoise
Hey, George, if you’re angling to catch a break on the price of some of my tweaks you’re definitely going about it the right way. Plus I’m giving serious consideration to promoting you to Senior Shill.


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Potential fuser’s thinking of blowing $150 for a $2 fuse, because of the waffling’s of the "Awesome Foursome" here.
Should take a look at the other "snake oil" posts they are into, and then make a sane guess as to whether they can be believed.

Just for an example, look at the ’snake oil" geoffkiat peddles here on his website, then ask yourself, is this ??????

https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina6.htm

https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm

Cheers George
Mapman
I am in both camps
Paid for 2 black fuses(BAT power amp)
Had another black fuse given me.(exogal DAC)
Maybe I am bias, who knows.
Who even cares......

Not even sure my English acquaintances know what a fuse is, we used to just bend nails to fit......
Course had to be careful whether used galvanised or stainless......
Gk if you learn to talk nice I might even consider (gasp) having YOU over someday! That is of course if you will agree to go through my security scanner and thorough sterilization procedure first. Hope those are not too many conditions! Can’t be too careful these days.  If Trump and Un can get along these days I'm sure we can too as long as you agree to my conditions.
Please, mapman, pretty please!?  Pretty please with peanut butter on top! Sob! 😭 Gag me with a spoon. 
I’ve met a few very nice audiophiles that live nearby here on Agon and had them over for a joint listening session. It is fun. One day we’ll compare fuses maybe....
uberwaltz,

I'm sorry to hear that.   I think audiophiles are used to a certain amount of isolation given how niche this hobby is.  But some of us are fortunate to know another audiophile...or more.  Although I have some friends and family who can really get in to the great sound they hear at my place, there's only currently one friend of mine who is a fellow audiophile and who gets it.  It is great having someone to call up and blather on about this stuff.  Vs the eye-rolling from my wife....:-)
Mapman ...

If I had an extra BLUE fuse I'd sent it to you. Night and day over the RED fuse. No joke.

Frank
Maybe. Or if your hearing wasn’t shot. Have you given any consideration to getting your ears candled? 🕯 Couldn’t hurt.

My ears go in for maintenance regularly.  Don't want to miss a beat.  How about yours?
Maybe. Or if your hearing wasn’t shot. Ya never know!  Have you given any consideration to getting your ears candled? 🕯 Couldn’t hurt.
Not one person I know in this country has the slightest interest in audio equipment.

I bet they have never seen a fancy fuse though. Not to mention one with graphene in there somewhere somehow coaxing that EM wave along. What could be more interesting then that? Just look at all the posts here! More than most anything! Explain it to them. It could flip them! You never know. Or they might have you committed. Especially if you tell them how much it cost.

If I had maybe actually paid for the fuse instead of getting a freeby maybe my tests would have yielded different results. Ya never know!