I have Aerial 5T's and they are excellent in my apartment. They were mentioned earlier.
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I don't know if you would want to be locked into a particular manufacturer's products but I think the Steinway Lyngdorf line of speakers like the model S or O are spectacular in both sound and looks. Only problem is that you would need to use their amps exclusively AFAIK. Room perfect is the real deal in room correction and placement of the speakers wouldn't be an issue. |
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@jayh31 Take a look at my virtual system (the room) the acoutic panels in the room were recommended to me by GIK Acoustics. They looked at my A'Gon virtual system and with me on the phone with them they recommended 9 panels to add to my room. The consultation was FREE and the cost of the panels was $700 + $200 shipping from Atlanta to California. If you have a dedicated room and aesthetics are not a primary concern then I would recommend you call GIK because those panels work wonders. |
I have listened to Audio Note speakers on many occasions, not interested at all... to my ears they are veiled and fail to image realistically due to their almost total lack of depth portrayal ( is this surprising since they are designed to be listened to right up against the wall...what's up with that??) That, plus their pricing structure is way over the top IMHO. |
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@johnto I was also thinking something like this.. if you do not mind...how far are your Maggies from the front wall ? |
Choice of gear, and especially so speakers, cannot be made independently from associated components. But let's say that in an absolute, I would choose as much as possible the best quality/price ratio above which no improvement is found. A few years back, I discovered the brand XTZ and was captivated by the many and unanimous 10/10 notations from all sorts of reviewers around the globe about their Master M2 model. I dont usually buy on reviews, but they all seemed so overwhelmed by those and with such a reasonable price that i decided to purchase. Since then, I continuously claim that this is the best ever buy I have ever made, and I own many other and high end gear. They are and by a very very long shot, the best quality/price gear i've heard, and one of the best bookshelf speakers I've heard regardless of price. The others to add to this list for me would be SF Guarneri Tradition, Kef Ref.1, Tannoy Eaton, Tannoy Autograph Mini with perfectly integrated subs, XTZ Divine Delta. But again, depending on room acoustics and associated amp/preamp, many good bookshelves could be made to play at a very very high level of performance. |
At one time I was considering the Vivid Kaya 45 for my 12x11x9 room. However, I eliminated that from consideration thinking that the side firing woofers would pose an obstacle to good sound in a small space. However, I wanted to revisit that logic since I liked the Kaya a lot. I do not think I will be able to do a home demo of the Kaya 45 but I have heard from manufacturer and also a local dealer that it can be placed close to the back wall (good for a small room). The sound of the Kaya is fantastic. It is fast, clear, and a bit like the KEF Blade. Here is a photo of the Kaya 45 next to the Vivid Giya G1. https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/vivid-kaya-45.28007/ Anybody want to chime in on their experience with side firing woofers in a small room? |
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LS3/5(A) perhaps? from Rogers(Chartwell) or Falcon and very tube friendly. (if you have a 16Ohm tap). Art Dudley has a recent review and there is a posting on a German blog about then too. https://medialux.blog/ you might have to scroll down to find the bit about the speakers. I quite fancy a pair after reading those reviews.Then there are a couple of Wilsons, the Tune Tots and Duettes. You are going to need home demos to sort this one out, taking a punt based on recommendations is not going to find what you’re looking for. |
I was recently in Miami on business and visited a great audio dealer: Deja Vu South. They had a pair of Harbeth P3ESRs setup in a very small room and they sounded incredible. The speakers were well forward of the front wall in a nearfield position, almost to the sides of the room. I have never heard these little Harbeth's sound so good before. I should thank Eric Gould and his team at Deja Vu Audio South for allowing me to hang at their place for a couple of hours and listen to some incredible music. I am looking forward to my next trip to Miami. |
Let me add a little more on GIK. The remote sound technician that designed my room panels, via telephone and photos told me to contact him in the future if I needed further assistance. I am going to buy new speakers for my small home office. I wanted to get the Vivid Kiya 45 floor standers but was under the impression it would not work in my space, especially before the treatments. My current treatments were based on the KEF LS50’s. These Vivid speakers have side firing woofers and in a small room that does not seem a good idea. I got feedback from Vivid on the speakers dispersion characteristics and I passed this info to my GIK tech. He and I were able to determine that these speakers would work, no charge for that advice and no extra GIK panel purchases needed. Huge fan of GIK. |
Used to own vivid giya g3 on a 10 by 14 room, it was a mess. side firing woofer was like having a run away subwoofer doing their own thing. Owned vivid v1.5 twice; a much better match to my room, which i eventually replaced with a wilson sasha 2 because i miss the larger voicing given by a fullrange speakers. |
The G3 is a physically bigger speaker than the Kaya 45 which in my case is a good thing. The Kaya may work for me. I am posting some feedback below I got back from previous USA Vivid distributor and Vivid themselves. Could be useful for someone. My room: https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7605 Here is the feedback I got from On A Higher Note regarding room size for Vivid Giya. Thank you for your inquiry and the detailed questions. Below is our general feedback for your system. Here is what Vivid management said to me about the Kaya 45: Thank you for your valued inquiry. |
Yyzsantabarbara giya is a lot better than the kaya. More natural sounding. Dealer told me that the giya series 2 is also much better than the series 1 which i had for a year. the problem i think with my giyas side firing woofer is not only the side wall interaction but also the excessive vib ration to my concrete flooring due to the very low positioned woofers coupled with my very small listening room. |
@supermerio From your feedback it sounds like I would be foolish not to do a home demo of the Kaya 45. The dealer is reluctant, but it’s my money so he may have to reconsider that stance. @spinaker01 Based on my store demos my consensus is down to the following: Vivid Kaya 45 (ask for home demo) Paradigm Persona 3F (already OK’ed for home demo) TAD ME1 (no need for home demo) |
Yyzsantabarbara have you Demoed wilson speakers? i never thought i would own one since i was never impressed every time i hear it in a demo room, but in my place and my gear; it was a different story — magnificent! Finally found my speakers. my sasha 2 is much better than my previous giya g3 in my very small listening room. |
@supermerio I have heard Wilson a few times. I liked the Alexa 1 a lot, thought the Alexandria XLF was amazing, and also recently demoed the Sabrina ($16K). The Sabrina was physically small and was the only candidate for my current room. However, in the very large space I demoed them I thought the bass was a little heavy. It was OK in the large space but I did not think it was going to be translate for me in a smaller space. Your feedback on the side firing woofers is really giving me pause on the Vivid. No deal unless I can do a home demo. |
@jayh31 In my current 12x11x9 space, https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7605 I needed acoustic treatments to make the very small KEF LS50's sound their best. Without the treatments I was getting a headache listening to these small speakers at moderate to low volumes. Now it sounds great without fatigue. |
Hi, I also live in a small appartment, and always had issues with bass boom with ported speakers (Klischp, KEF Q900, KEF LS50), and then I bought ATC SCM 19. ATC are the no-ported design, and can be kept very close to the wall. Mine are kept 3 inches from the front wall (with some absorption treatment), and there is absolutely no issues with bass at any volume. Obviously other components also play a very important role in tonality and how bass is managed. Good luck |
In my seemingly never ending quest to find what speakers work best in my small room, with my equipment, out are the Joseph Audio Pulsars, Joseph audio Pulsar 2 Graphenes and now the ATC SCM 11s. On to the Jean Marie Reynaud Bliss Jubilees! Anyone out there have any experience with JM Reynaud speakers? Thanks |