SR Tuning Discs, Psychoacoustic Bias and Listening Fatigue


By the way the SR Tuning Discs are snake oil. They don’t make a damned bit of difference. Careful about psychoacoustic bias. Fresher ears hear small differences greater than fatigued ears. At first listen, again A-B ing instantaneously with streamer cable plus Disc against exact same master and material on CD player transport digitally into same Bryston DAC, the two sources about 5 seconds apart to hear “phrase” of that duration in instant back to back repetition, I THOUGHT I heard a shocking large difference. But it was the first listen of the day. Then removed Disc from cable and did same thing. A LITTLE less dramatic difference. Ok. Then put Disc back onto cable. About the SAME as last. Hmmm. Then repeated this whole process about 6 more times to be sure. Then left room for hour. Came back in and did test once WITHOUT Disc. BIG DIFFERENCE. Like first test of the day with Disc ON cable. 

CONCLUSION :  THE DIFFERENCES I HEARD WHICH I INITIALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE SR TUNING DISCS WERE PSYCHOACOUSTIC AND LISTENING FATIGUE BIAS. SYNERGISTIC RESEARCH TUNING DISCS MAKE ZERO DIFFERENCE. 

But that’s my opinion. You can take it with a grain of salt if you so desire. 

tlcocks

My gear is Bryson B135 SST2 Integrated Amp with respectable onboard DAC (see Mike Lavorgna of Twittering Machines comments), Auralic Aries Dual Femto streamer connected to integrated with Shunyata Theta digital cable, Martin Logan Montage with Transparent Music Link Plus speaker cable.  The integrated has a tape loop where I connect a Charter Oak PEQ-1 studio analog EQ via Cardas Clear Sky ‘round trip’ cabling. I cut that loop in and out to taste and mood and depending upon the material listened to by simply toggling the monitor button on the Bryston remote from the listening position. 
Thanks. 

I'm really starting to get tired of this site. No offense, but who cares? Return them if you don't like them. You have 30 days.

@coralkong , just was sharing my experience and my method. I recommend instead of getting upset just take what I said with a grain of salt. 

"Psycho acoustics" is probably a much more profound subject than many people are willing to give real attention to. The SR discs appear to be discs of nothing more than carbon which as we all know is quite electrically conductive, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if placing them in the vicinity of electrical components might have some field effects. On the other hand, they may be made of the same stuff in powder form that inhabits their fuses, and I have in the past been impressed with the performance of the audio fuses especially the "Purple" ones.

It is a jungle out there. Welcome to the jungle.
 

I have 2 sets of HFT transducers mounted on the walls of my main listening room. They actually work, and made the soundstage a lot wider and bolder. I tried them in the basement, and they made zero difference down there, so i sent back the ones i didn't use.

 

It seems like this company is becoming a gimmick shop more than anything else.

Good advice. Don’t buy the tuning discs. Instead save up for a full loom of the Synergistic Research Atmosphere signal cables - with the tuning modules and ground leads. After 20+ years of cable swapping, my system sounds better than ever when they were added

I think many of the "night-and-day differences" are attributable to head position, mood, expectation bias, gullibility, nasal conditions, and a host of other issues not related to audio quality.  Companies like Synergistic Research, Furutech, Pangea, and others play on this and prey on the naivete and gullibility of audiophiles.  It's basically what the entire snake oil industry is built on.  

     No one can tell you whether/how your system, room and/or ears will respond to some new addition.   There are simply too many variables.

     LIKEWISE: no one can possibly know whether a new addition (ie: some kind of disc, crystal, fuse, interconnect, speaker cable, etc)  will make a difference, in their system and room, with their media and to their ears, without trying them for themselves.   

     Some companies offer a 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee, so- those that are actually interested, have absolutely nothing to lose by trying (experimenting with) such.     

     Anyone that knows anything about the sciences, realizes that something like 96% of what makes up this universe, remains a mystery.       

     For centuries; humanity’s seen, heard, felt and otherwise witnessed phenomena that none of the best minds could fathom, UNTIL they developed a science or measurement that could explain it.     

     Theories have never proven or disproven anything.  It’s INVARIABLY testing and experimentation that proves or disproves theories/hypotheses.   

     IF you’re interested in the possibility of improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and trust your own senses: actually TRY whatever whets your aural appetite, or- piques the curiosity, FOR YOURSELF.         

                                             Happy listening!

 

Whether its snake oil, effective or just plain difference may be difficult to discern. Ultimately, I've come to the conclusion if it stays over the long term a positive difference is being heard. Been through plenty of tweaks over the decades, most come and go, this A/B over a long term, some stay, most have gone into unused tweak box.

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If it works or doesn't work in your system does NOT mean it will work/not work in someone else's system. There are no absolutes in this hobby. I literally cringe when someone uses the term "Snake Oil". 

Buy it, try it, if you don't like it, return it.

 

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