Schumann Resonator


I got 2 of these from Amazon...careful that free returns are applicable.  I charged them up, turned them on and holy moly.....they do help with my system.   What I hear is clarity....space between instruments, a definite difference in upright and electric bass, wider soundstage...you know...all the good stuff. At first I thought it might be increased brightness, but no....it is still the same in that regard.  I still can't believe it, and will listen again tomorrow (saved the packaging for the return)...but today, I'm about to keep them.
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This is nonsense, unless you can come up with a real explanation.  The green stripe around CD;s had an explanation as good as what you folks are saying, and it had its adherents.  Hydrogen atoms?   BS!  Hydrogen is so light that absolutely none of it hangs around in your room, or near the Earth's surface.  Please do better.
bhvf nailed it

I had in my gray matter somewhere 7.83 hz and the above site explains it.
said that because before investing many hundred dollars for nothing, if your room and gear is not prepared enough with a too high noise level to be able to give to you some audible effects, at least you will lost nothing buying 2 cheaps one at 10 dollars each before buying a very costly one..

The effect is audible but not in all conditions...


These devices don't do anything for your audio gear or room, they make the person more in tune with the frequency of the earth.
There is an assumption that some of the desirable qualities of a good system are not measurable. I wonder how someone from my world (research and statistics) would try and tackle that.
Take one quality often cited as unmeasurable but highly desirable and strongly influenced by cables / resonators / power supplies / fuses : soundstage.
Why not play 100 people a track and get them to draw what they “see”. Like this.

Then bring the Schuman device or whatever into the listening room and ask 100 different people to listen to the same track and do their drawings.
Simple statistical analysis of the two sets of drawings would reveal if the soundstage has become wider, or if the instruments are more distinct in their position within it. The same drawing would also reveal “clearer deeper bass”.
Be fun to try, anyway.



Never respond on these forums, but do use lot of tweaks.
Near-live main system, will keep up with Raidho 35K speakers when testing same cd at Axpona (at least on clean cds),
Projector based home theater system, good to very good, but not great

figured should reply for mapman and others
Bought AR-888 few years ago, demo, so trial from MD, the large online seller. Curious due to positive reviews, and to date the most expensive tweak ever bought.  Had DirectTV then and tried out ARROW show. Put the AR-888 on a cabinet (maybe 4 feet up) at back of room. Was shocked to hear much more details in the sound of the show. Turned out ARROW was far more complicated mix than I thought. Also turns out it helps the picture quality. Have tested on 2001 movie (pretty clean bluray, not grainy like 2010). Can see more 3-dimensional image and more vivid colors. Is definitely more pleasing to watch with AR-888 on. Whenever I have tested it, can usually tell improved sound and picture quality.

Do not use on main system. Have tried and was better separation of images. But heavily boosted the bass. Small room and had to turn down sub too much and I like the sub effect. If can counter that, may use AR-888 someday again. Not hard to move if want.

Is strange and not sure why works. Low frequency EM signal, doable if look at half price Indonesian Chartes V (wish knew about that one to save money) due to electronic trace circling inside around and around to get large EM wave. Chartes V does show sine wave. Expensive ones claim to be more accurate. Not sure about cheap ones; tend to like trial periods. Tempted to get a second like Chartes V sometime, but read one review where tried 888 and previous model and person got nauseous. 
Again, perhaps the oddest tweak I have and not sure at all why works, but it does work. If you can get cheaper and still works, clearly that is best.
PS have even suspected it helped when listening to a quality DAP recently, but would have to keep testing that, since surprising
These devices don’t do anything for your audio gear or room, they make the person more in tune with the frequency of the earth.
Why not the 2 possibilities, an effect on the brain and a physical effect in the electrcal grid of the room?

If you read my post you will know that anyone can make an experiment i devised with the S.G. that is very objective with 3 possibilities and different coherent repeatable results:

 Shungite ( compression of the sound), Herkimer diamond (decompression of the sounds) and the 2 together (more balanced audible effect) on top of the S.G. caps...This prove a physical effect...

Is it not simple to do and to understand?



I started using SR's many years ago, at first a single up near ceiling, front wall, centered between speakers. Sound stage greater height but more recessed than without. Added second near ceiling, behind listening position, centered. This pulled sound stage forward and intensified solidity of center image. My SR's had potentiometer which varied intensity of these effects. I later added linear power supplies, thought I may have heard improvement, perhaps placebo effect here.

Over the years I tried various positions of both sr, sound stage always pulled towards position of sr. Near ceiling always best sq.
Over these years I periodically removed and inserted srs, always preferred sr in. However, as my system improved from various equipment changes, therefore, more dimensional imaging, larger sound stage, I found sr's to be detrimental. The pull of sound stage with sr's created a more artificial ss, center image always compressed, especially width. Without sr's, more natural proportion of width, height, depth of ss. I've not used my sr's for perhaps two year.
I never perceived any lowering of noise floor with sr, ss changes only effect I heard.

In thinking about these ss effects just now, I'm curious if four sr's could be superior to none. All centered near ceiling, front wall, behind listening position, two added on side walls. Decrease intensity and widen out center image. Not curious enough to try.

Overall, my experience was initial enthusiasm followed by slowly diminishing positive results. In the end, another failed tweak. Still, I can imagine sr's could be a positive in some systems and rooms, not a bad tweak by any means.
Overall, my experience was initial enthusiasm followed by slowly diminishing positive results. In the end, another failed tweak. Still, I can imagine sr’s could be a positive in some systems and rooms, not a bad tweak by any means.
I can say the samething with my S.G.

I correct that by putting on them for a more balanced effect my "golden plate" (shungite plate+copper tape on the external side) + an Herkimer Diamond...

The effect is more natural with that than without.... Then what you experienced dont surprize me at all...

S.G. dont work at all on the noise floor of the house/room/ and gear...

But the unambiguous  perception the audible effects of the S.G.  ask for a minimally not too high noise floor... It is the reason why many people did not hear any audible effects.... The noise floor of a house filled with appliances, and in  an acoustically untreated room with gear with no mechanical vibrations controls means nothing coul be perceived of this subtle but very real effect....




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If the whole earth is resonating at this frequency, isn’t that enough?  
What if the resonator is out of phase?  Won’t that cancel the background resonance of the earth and make the kit sound worse?  
If we all install these devices out of phase will we silence the earth???? 

Also
hard to tell if bluemoodriver is legit and confused or just scientifically illiterate and confused. Or if making his comedic debut: don’t quit your day job!

The resonance is not the Earth, it is radio waves refracting and reflecting within the space between the Earth’s surface and the ionosphere. None of this is in phase. It is a frequency not a synchrony. The difference is profound. Ordinary light can be passed through a prism to show bands of the same frequency or color. This light is however all chaotic with regard to phase. A single frequency in phase, what we call coherent light, is a laser. Helluva difference. Science. Get some.

sns- My first two were used on the left rear wall. First one and then two. Same location. No reason other than that is where the outlet made it easy. There was definitely an increased sense of envelopment, but the sound stage did not pull back and to the left. The next two were added on the right, directly across from the first two. Again the same improvement. Again the stage did not pull to the side.

The next 2 were added on the left front. Again, this was entirely due to there being an outlet nearby, and something to put them on. Because at this point I was relying on what everyone said about them being 5ft up off the floor. Same thing, same improvement, no sense of the stage being pulled to the left.

Then one was added front and center. This time on the floor. Because of the screen, and the flashing blue lights. Then I added an 8th, also front and center. Both of these are on the floor leaned up against the wall, behind a power conditioner and amps.

I have moved them around a bit, turned them on and off, they are not even all the same circuit board, but it sure sounds to me like they all do the same thing and no matter where they are placed.
Full disclosure, I don’t spend a lot of time obsessing over minutia. Might seem like I do but I don’t. Easiest way to tell if an improvement is worth doing, if you hear it right away it is. Otherwise, sorry but no. Move on. Schumann generators are worth doing. Where they go? Sorry but no. 

I have 2 more on order. This will bring me to ten. Very important I stay one ahead of mahgister! ;) When they come they will go on the front right floor but only because with all these damn Schumann generators I am running out of outlets!
Mine are battery powered.   When very close to the speakers, there is a brightness I hear.....I have them on the sill outside of the speakers, about 4 feet in front of each speaker, about 3 1/2 feet above the floor.  If they don't work just return them.  They made a very big improvement for me.
I have 2 more on order. This will bring me to ten. Very important I stay one ahead of mahgister! ;)
Sorry i own 12 in my grid...
😁😊😎


But they are modified with my golden plate and an herkimer diamond....The audible effect is more balanced for me with that modifications... Some can try only the golden plate is their audio system is more cold than warm... If the audio system is more warm than cold try an herkimer diamond....

If your system is relatively balanced between warm and cold try the 2 together, the effect will be more balanced...


I have 2 more on order. This will bring me to ten. Very important I stay one ahead of mahgister! ;) When they come they will go on the front right floor but only because with all these damn Schumann generators I am running out of outlets!

You wouldn't need so many if you would buy one good unit instead of 10 cheap units.
You wouldn’t need so many if you would buy one good unit instead of 10 cheap units.
First- the price of my 12 is way more less than Acoustic revive or even of some others...

Second- i use them modified and cabled with other devices of my own....

Third- i am pretty sure that the effect of a costly one is not stronger than my 12 modified and connected... Anyway even if it is more powerful, i like what i have for a fraction of the price...

Four- How do people know that they will hear the effect if their audio system and room is not enough under controls already and if their noise level is too high? i dont want to advise people to throw their money out....

Five- your argument remind me of the association of the quality of gear with his price.... It is true sometimes but not always.... My system cost peanuts and i dont give a damn about ANY other one at ANY price...It is not the best system at all but it work at his best...It is ok for me....The piano is in my room already with natural timbre then i dont need to throw money....

Six- when you listen to music with a good sound for the first time of your life (my case) you forget upgrading....


My deepest regards to you.....
I've heard it all before, this is a Giant killer, but it hardly ever holds true. You get what you pay for most of the time.
I want also to WARN all people that the S. G. will not solve by itself all 3 embeddings controls problems, pertaining to mechanical, electrical and acoustical dimensions by far...

It will work most of the times with positive results in the right environment, with a not too high noise floor and add something that is like my IONEZERS did also on their own....But they did not replace my vibrations controls, nor  my electrical grid controls, and certainly not ,y  passive and active acoustical controls....

Even with ionizers and S. G. so good they are, and they are good, then all the problems in these 3 working embeddings dimensions need completely other solutions....
Hey MC, “pervert” here,

Yes, I was being facetious.  I can read and understand a Wikipedia article just like you can. 
By the way, have you tried turning the fuses around in your resonators?  
How about switching the direction of the copper in power leads?  
I can only imagine the further leaps in sound quality if you put the resonators on some springs. And the power leads on some ceramic mushrooms. 
I have 2 of them also. Nobsound units.They also make me feel a whole lot better physically and mentally.
Originally bought one for my system and it did a lot of great things. Placement is key, more art than science BUT the overall calming effect was unexpected  side effect. It is really noticeable.  Bought one for the bedroom too. Sleeping better and waking up happier. Working for me go figure. Check out Space Tech Audio Labs, they have some VERY serious looking ones. I love all their stuff, looks like 1950's particle accelerator gear.
Bliss out y'all
 
Krissy said the same thing. I sent her one, she put it under her bed, sleeps way better. Okay you say, so what, double-blind bias, expectation coulda woulda shoulda. Until she noticed, where'd the cat go? Under the bed. Never went there before. Curled up right next to the SG. 

The signpost ahead, you are entering the Audiophile Zone.

We report. You decide.
Come on guys. ‘Curiosity killed the cat’. Ever known a cat that doesn’t sniff out something new?  Perhaps it scent-marked it too. Maybe that aroma is what caused the lovely night of sleep. Maybe the cat sleeping under the bed and not in it is what led to better sleep. 
We’ve just got to hope MC doesn’t start advocating human sacrifices to the resonating gods. “Trust your ears - if spilt blood over your cables enhances the soundstage, then it does.”
Check out Space Tech Audio Labs, they have some VERY serious looking ones. I love all their stuff, looks like 1950’s particle accelerator gear.
Still giggling at this. Of course it looks like 1950s particle accelerator gear. When it does, it makes you think it is VERY serious. This is why they are able to sell it at a higher price and bigger margin.
They are laughing all the way to the bank.

My own idea about this S.G. is that perhaps it is not this " exact" frequency alleged to be produced by itself that explain the result, the so called magical 7,8 hertz, but instead the fact that there is ANY frequency in this range coming from a piece of gear interacting with the audio gear electrical field through the house grid.... The precise 7,8 hertz is NOT the culprit probably, any frequency around will do....The Chinese cheap  apparatus work and are certainly not precise...

I remember to all of you, that my S.G. are all modified for a better effect....



Nobody report yet, except the OP i think, with my simple experiment at the source of my modification to improve the S.G. with an experiment which can prove a "physical" impact and not mostly a "subjective " or "physiological" one mainly....



Put a piece of shungite on top : compression of sound

Put an herkimer diamond on top: decompression of sound

Put a golden plate on top (shungite +copper tape on the external side) : more balanced sound





«To think out of the box, stay out of the box»- a puppet voice stepping outside of a box

«I dont use my brain to think because he seat inside this box»-Groucho Marx pointing to his head...
@bluemoodriver, great site! Thanks. Why do you think humans are so prone to this type of fantasy? These people did not make up Schumann resonance. It has been marketed as a miracle cure of many ailments.
Is it Joseph Goebbels big lie? It is certainly some people trying to extort money out of others. Are these people just gullible? They certainly bought the big lie and subsidized the extortionists.

Like I said before, if all of you want to experience some electromotive force just get yourselves and MRI scan. Pop some valium if you are claustrophobic.

Trust your ears? Right.
Is it Joseph Goebbels big lie? It is certainly some people trying to extort money out of others. Are these people just gullible? They certainly bought the big lie and subsidized the extortionists.
Is your assessment of universal gullibility of all people save yourself, a little bit too "gross" and is it not itself an " explain all" mantra separating people in 2 groups, the enlightened one and the stupid one ?

Is phenomena are all divided in : science approved facts by sceptics school or mass hysteria?

And this last sentence, expressing a manufactured paranoia of your own is not the expression of a bit of hysteria?

All that for a 10 bucks device you will never experiment with and vouch to prove being a delusion at all cost on your own "crusader" audio thread?

Joseph Goebbels "big lie" about a chinese 10 bucks device really?

Are you not insulting reality itself with this metaphor, and indirectly all people who died because of Goebbels by equating a mouse with an elephant ?

Buying the "big lie" really?

Is it not too much to draw a relation between the market of 10 bucks device purchase and genocide?

And you think that putting under the bed for a better sleep this 10 bucks device is a social crime?

How about the Lancet director affirming the scandal of corporate interest in a universal scientific fraud with their drug fraudulent studies? Is not worst than claiming better sleep if someone use a S.G. ? You know the benefit of cheap "placebo" effect with no negative effect? Why not using a 10 bucks one?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/



Think a few second about your own "rational" deluded hysteria in audio thread...

I am amazed by "rational" stupidity at work.....


And these last words:

Trust your ears? Right.
What shoud we trust at last? If not our ears ?
An equalizer for not only first but LAST tool even if our ears dont like the result in our room?

Because the equalizer know everything about acoustic there is to know you think, really?

I dont know who you are, but i will not put you in the very "wise" people category....






Mijostyn,

Indeed. The Enlightenment is not complete. Maybe there is a rational and evolutionary reason for irrationality and it will be with us forever. 

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01245738

Mahgister,

And you think that putting under the bed for a better sleep this 10 bucks device is a social crime?

No - provided it isn’t being marketed as a medical device, or unless advertised in a way that is dishonest or untruthful. But yes, it is a social crime if people - through no fault of their own - have their hopes raised by misleading and unsubstantiated claims, and have money taken from them on the basis of false hope, and in the worst case put their health and well-being in the hands of merchants of lies.
The people who do this may not be criminals, but profiteering through being misleading is offensive to good society.  
No - provided it isn’t being marketed as a medical device, or unless advertised in a way that is dishonest or untruthful. But yes, it is a social crime if people - through no fault of their own - have their hopes raised by misleading and unsubstantiated claims, and have money taken from them on the basis of false hope, and in the worst case put their health and well-being in the hands of merchants of lies.
The people who do this may not be criminals, but profiteering through being misleading is offensive to good society.
What about the numerous testimonies for a better sleep ? All mass delusion or incredible placebos....Placebo is the right concept not delusion if the device frequencies play no role.......

This device is not proposed to cure anything or like a drug or like a "medical device" but only helping sleep and good sleep is the key to a better health....Remember your mother kiss help you to sleep also?

It is a placebo effect at worst which can work for 10 bucks... Where is the damage? Could you scientifically dismiss all testimonies and prove it dont work at all for a better sleep save for a placebo effect? Perhaps the frequencies range play a role who knows? Save mijostyn who knows everything rational by birth enlightenement....

Anybody hate "fraud" but mijostyn post are completely  out of reason way more than Acoustic Revive publicity....

Forbiding a simple audio experiment at 10 bucks for all the reasons he invoke in an audio thread and talking of Goebbels and the "big lie" seems normal rational thinking to you?

If yes.... I will pass my turn to discuss anymore....
Indeed. The Enlightenment is not complete. Maybe there is a rational and evolutionary reason for irrationality and it will be with us forever.
For your own education read Ernst Cassirer about enlightenment period... You will learn something your post reveal lacking in your understanding of "reason"....

Go to wiki and read about Cassirer....You will learn "the reason for irrationality" is not "evolutionary " but constitutive of the human being and necessary roots for the rational power and his necessary constraint...



I believe myself in science like Cassirer not in scientism....


«Reason is not a free wheel»-Groucho Marx

« Is it a tree?»- Chico Marx
@millercarbon- Chuck you have got to be kidding me. “I don’t spend a lot of time obsessing over minutiae”. Absolutely hysterical! 7836 posts and counting. I like AG, especially for its entertainment value, but it is at least 50% minutiae, and probably 95% repetition as you can get the same topics that are debated many many times. Hearing recommendations for members goals is interesting.

You have mentioned countless tweaks, some very valuable and appreciated, some like these SGs simply science fiction from a purely sound standpoint that hits your ears. I can’t speak about between the ears and the brain. At least your others are based on scientific fact, although they may or may not be audible.

i believe that you have good ears and your system sounds great, but please just admit as @mahgister has that these SGs may be all in your head.
but please just admit as @mahgister has that these SGs may be all in your head.
Try to read my post correctly...

I recognize easily that an effect on the physiology is possible, even a placebo effect...

I dont look like an opinionated idiot i think? Did i ? 😁


I NEVER said that it was ONLY a placebo effect which explain it all.....


To prove that,

I precisely proposed here, multiple times, a PRECISE repeatable experiment with shungite AND/OR an Herkimer diamond on the S.G. that would reveal by their different effects an OBJECTIVE concrete fact...


some like these SGs simply science fiction from a purely sound standpoint
But it seems you are illuminated with innate definitive science like mijostyn ?

 Are all others audiophiles testimonies  like mijostyn said, deluded affirmations, if not of idiots, of gullible customers throwing 10 bucks to chinese thieves by eating propaganda like in Goebbels times  ? I dont think so.....

No experiments needed for you ?  Sorrry i am more curious i devise experiments for myself in audio....


I am flabbergasted by stupidity.... My own first for sure.... But my God ! i am not the only one for sure.....

My only hope, reading some here, is that i am not the stupidest....I dont speak about you sokogear here  you dont appeal to Goebbels yourself... You are not stupid at all but you rush to conclusion by ready made opinions.... Not me, in audio i will try anything and experiment with it if it did not cost any money...

I succeeded... My S.Q. did not cost me more than peanuts....

Who is gullible?





Mahgister - I’d better get my mother to kiss my cables then.  I’ll hear a difference and because trust my ears I will assert the sound actually improved. 
Maybe I’ll put the diamond ring she left me on top of my Raspberry Pi and I’ll get “more air” and a tighter soundstage.
Mahgister - I’d better get my mother to kiss my cables then. I’ll hear a difference and because trust my ears I will assert the sound actually improved.
Maybe I’ll put the diamond ring she left me on top of my Raspberry Pi and I’ll get “more air” and a tighter soundstage.
How easy it is to ridicule what we want to....

No need to answer.... Keep the "reason" i will keep my "illusion".....


The placebo effect is linked to all phenomena in life and work great, mother,s kisses included; but it cannot replace an experiment...

It cannot be invoked to explain everything and the rest when we think about something we dont know anything about but dont trust....

It seems sceptics and gullible people are more akin to one another than we ever think possible... 😁


I never encountered people so much opinionated than some in these audio threads, the "sceptics/dogmatists scientism species" and i was dealing all my life with scientists and students and philosophers....All those that were dogmatics and mainly sceptics more than enthusiast were the poor one, and the second rated one... All true unlookers were creative, enthusiast and open free spirits... No exception.... In all fields....I spoke with them almost 40 years... I missed the young people....

😊



« Creativity and freedom dont give a dam about your reason»- Prometheus stolen the fire....
@mahgister- I am not opinionated at all. I just want to know why. I posted 2 ways I could be swayed 2/26 @ 11:13AM (I can’t figure out how to copy on my iPad and am too lazy to walk to my office laptop).

I am very open minded and always want Improvement from anything, stereo or otherwise, taking into the law of diminishing returns, but also very logical. When something doesn’t make sense to me from a normally sensible person, I try to figure it out.

I stopped postting on this discussion since my post I mentioned  until someone responds to that, but couldn’t let @millercarbon post about not caring about minutiae go with no response. It was truly hilarious.

see if you can come up with one of them.
@mahgister- I am not opinionated at all.
Remembering your past posts i think you are right...

I apologize to you if i answered sometimes in a too direct or passionnate way....

I cannot answer to all your questions " why"....

I did not begin forme  as a  scientific inquiry.... I just try 2 years ago to replicate what Acoustic Revive customers reported about their costly purchase with cheap modified chinese one thats all...

Like i said anyway, even if these devices work with an audible positive s.q. effect for me and for many others, i did not recommend that for first acoustic tool at all...or in replacement of more powerful others like Helmholtz pipies and tubes resonators...

But anyway 2 for 20 bucks is only a fun experiment to try for those who "dare to go where no one ever goes  to go before ".... 😊

  It is not a participation in mass murders nor in a Ponzy scheme....

I am like you at the end, some experiments appeal to me, some others dont....

My deepest respect for you and regards....
OK:

I've played around with this "unit" for the past Two days...

https://www.amazon.com/Generator-Ultra-Low-Frequency-Rechargeable-Screwdriver/dp/B07NP3ZGZK/ref=sr_1...=

Yesterday, I placed it a few feet from my head while reading in bed and kept dozing off having odd/short dreams that I remembered upon awakening.

Usually I do not have dreams (or I do not remember them if I do have them) and I am an exceedingly light sleeper waking up constantly to reposition my body due to common aches and pains for someone my age who was rambunctious/accident prone in earlier life.

So, this was my first immediately recognizable effect of the device.

I also noticed that (while awake) my stomach started to churn/gurgle after 10-15 minutes of being in close proximity to the device.

In addition I noticed that instead of the unit relaxing me I ended up clamping my jaw (not a good thing) and I also failed @ doing my usual breathing/relaxation exercises which usually cut my old aches and pains (migraines aside) by 90%+.

Today I played around with the device while watching a recording of Clapton's Crossroads 2019 video on a 20" Samsung flat screen TV located on a blanket chest @ the foot of the bed.

The TV (placed mid-room without a wall behind it) has a reflection screen, slightly larger than the size of the TV, mounted a few inches off the back to help duplicate close to wall mounting.

If I placed the face of the device (handheld) towards the TV the sound became distant with decreased dynamics/detail - colder and thin is a good descriptor.

When I reversed it directing the face of the device towards me the sound became fuller and louder with increased detail and dynamics, like it was sucking the music towards me.

The changes were easily heard and repeatable.

I suggest that anyone experimenting with this tech first try what I did, due to the simplicity of doing so.

Not keen on the clenching jaw effect as well as it seeming to interfere with my daily bio-feedback/self hypnosis/meditation (whatever you want to call it) excercises.

Just saying that with this particular unit the changes in (TV) sound were extremely apparent.

Assume that it would be a PITA to adjust/align them with the main HiFi setup, but "this unit" definitely altered the perceived sound as mentioned.

DeKay
Thanks dekay....

Interesting... It could have adverse effect on electro sensible people...It seems in your case...For me no ill effects with 12 in my room 12 hours a day....It is interesting to know tough for some sensible people...
😁 My only effect is the audible upgrade.... I am lucky.... 😊


I never try the battery one, thinking it was less practical than the USB one for me but i am not sure if i read the descriptor the battery seems to be long life, i will try one or 2 this summer...

My best to you...
@mahgister- this is all for fun, and if it weren’t for these weird reported physiological effects, I might’ve tried the SGs out. I’ve learned a lot on AG and improved my system tremendously, sometimes very inexpensively, others little chunks here and there. I really never knew that so many people spend so much $$ on stereo equipment and are so seriously committed to it. I try to get the best bang for my buck just for the sound, not the looks or to impress anyone but me. I used to think $25K for a stereo was a lot of money, now I think I am a beginner after 40+ years with a low 5 figure (barely) investment. Some are spending 6 figures without a second thought. It must be nice.....
@Dekay - WOW. Maybe it interfered with the tv signal? Did you try to see if it changed the sound on your stereo? There is no signal to interfere with over the air there.
I try to get the best bang for my buck just for the sound, not the looks or to impress anyone but me. I used to think $25K for a stereo was a lot of money, now I think I am a beginner after 40+ years with a low 5 figure (barely) investment. Some are spending 6 figures without a second thought. It must be nice.....
7 years ago i begins my search for audiophile experience...

At this time i was impressed by gear of very costly price....

Now after all my peanuts costs experiments for 2 years, i smile and dont look at any of them, with envy at all; for sure they are better than mine...

But like i said if the harpsichord or the orchestra fill the room, all that for 500 bucks and my homemade controls device, I dont need anything more....

The law in audiophile experience is this one: Dont upgrade anything but instead embed everything rightfully in his three working dimensions...

An Helmholtz grid cost nothing to make and is more powerful than any upgrade...And it is pure known acoustic science... Unlike the S.G. grid which work but who knows why... And the Helmholtz grid is way more powerful in his own way...With Helmholtz grid the room is ACTIVATED and is no more a set of passive bouncing walls for the sound coming from the speakers...The room is active now and transform the speakers sound, no more only passively, by absorbtion, reflection or diffusion on his surface but by acting like a complex heterogenuous set of pressurized engines....

No reviewers call for that.... No reviewers has ever explain that.... At best they want to sell costly "secondary addition" to a system called "tweaks"...My embeddings controls are NOT secondary addition at all, they transform any system and make it able to give his best....

Acoustic science says it , speakers cannot beat their room....


I look now to refine my actual results not to spend more money....I listen my music not so more the sound....

But anyway i know first hand that most people have no idea how to work with their room and gear....And sometimes dont have a room to play with like mine.... I have no clues myself like most few years ago reading all audio magazines about upgrades for me...It was my desire for a good sound without the money that drived me here... Thanks to my limited purse, i was in the obligation to be crazily creative... 😊


It is simple...

I am only here to motivate a few.... If i can help..... Others with money dont need my inconvenient and blasphemous "truth"....



My deepest respect and regards....
sokogear:

The Clapton video was recorded on a Direct TV box via a dish on the roof (hard drive I'm guessing), so there was no "air" transmission involved in the playback process.

I figured that comfortably lying in bed would be a good start for accessing what the product does/does not do and I applied my assessment to non-audio claims about the tech aspects as well.

I suggest that you do what I did if you are curious about the tech.

DeKay


The Clapton video was recorded on a Direct TV box via a dish on the roof (hard drive I’m guessing), so there was no "air" transmission involved in the playback process.
I am pretty convinced by my experiments that the S. G. like i already said here work THROUGH the electrical grid of the connected appliance or gear...

All electrical gear in a house partake to a common noise floor of their own...

I am not a scientist at all.... Just my own opinion....

But my ionizers work the " air" with results on par with my S.G. grid... i rarely mention that here because of all the "enlightened minds" ready to kill with words.... 😊😁😎😊
Ordered one from China, will be here in early April. 20 bucks all in.

I feel dirty.
...just wondering why you chose to order from China direct rather then from Amazon with free return privileges....
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