The doors never had a bass player. It was Manzarek’s organ.
Saxaphone vs. Trumpet...Which do you prefer?
It’s not the first time I’ve thought about it, but it came up again last night as I was listening to Quintessence volume 2, Stan Getz and Chet Baker recorded live. (an amazing disc) I have to say that for myself, I prefer the saxophone because it seems capable of infinite textures and subtle shadings as well as eye opening dynamic shifts. Of course I love the trumpet too; especially in the hands of a player like Chet Baker.
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@roxy54, Bruce Botnick was the recording engineer on the doors (I’m spelling it as they did---with a lower case d, as homage to e e Cummings, I believe. Yes, Morrison was a tad pretentious ;-) albums. They had a number of different bass players on their recordings, including Larry Knechtel (The Wrecking Crew) and guitarist Lonnie Mack. I twice saw the doors live, and ’cause my momma taught me to not speak ill of the dead (though I above made an exception for Morrison), I won’t say anything about Manzarek. ;-) . Let me just add that Jerry Garcia also didn't care for the doors. |
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OK, so how about we split the difference? I vote for the saxhorn. It’s a real thing, you know... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxhorn https://youtu.be/Ed9P9w-Lt-w |
Parker65310, I have no doubt that Roxy54 is keenly aware of and recognizes the musician’s expression is of paramount importance and the highest priority (along with talent). Roxy is a music lover and the question posed is a fun and interesting way to generate a sharing of individual perspectives of musicians we greatly admire and their respective instruments. I could easily assemble a list of superb saxaphonists. Sonny Stitt, Charlie Parker, Dexter Gordon, Paul Desmond, Gerry Mulligan, Art Pepper, Johnny Griffin, you get the idea😀. It’s fun discussing these marvelous people (- and the instruments they have surely mastered). Charles |
Odd thread. It’s the expression of the musician that matters. These instruments greatly compliment one another. Think about Coltrane and his tenor sax and Miles Davis’ trumpet. Some of the best music, not just jazz, ever created. The obvious that come to mind are albums like Kind of Blue, which even though it is quite mainstream and accessible is still one of the greatest albums of all time in my opinion. |
Hi Roxy54, You posted a very fun question for a committed jazz fan such as myself. As has been stated above both are tremendous in the hands of a talented musician. In the spirit of this thread where a preference is requested I’ll go with the magnificent trumpet. Simply sublime with Bop, ballads,blues, modal etc. Upper register pyrotechnics or mid/lower register sensual introspective from the soul playing. Just think, Miles, Clifford Brown, Fats Navarro, Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, Chet, Art Farmer, Wynton, Kenny Dorham,Nicholas Payton, Roy Hargrove and on and on😊😊. Trumpet and Fugelhorn = sheer beauty. Charles |
There's only 2 types of music; good & bad. There's only 2 types of musicians; good & bad. Sounds like there's a few of you that's never heard a good trumpet or flute player. 2 instruments that are truly capable of infinite sensitivity and beauty. I would never handcuff my love of music with a blanket statement stating I hate an INSTRUMENT! Talk about waste, you're effectively blocking out a virtual universe of music! |
Well the sax is big and heavy and you have to suck on the reed and stuff and if your embouchure isn't perfect it just makes the most hideous sound like a whipped dog or something. Plus there's a whole slew of things to keep cleaned and lubed. Trumpet on the other hand is small and just the three slides to take care of, but talk about embouchure, can't hardly get anything out of it at all less you get your lips nice and tight. At least with the sax if you blow right its gonna play. Trumpet you're just not getting squat no way without the right embouchure. So played both, dunno, guess that's why I prefer harmonica. |
Saxophone for much the same reasons as yourself. It does take someone like a Chet Baker or Louis Armstrong to get a halfway pleasant sound out of a trumpet. All too often trumpets just sound shrill and noisy whereas saxophones just ooze life and sensuality. Probably also explains why I prefer Coltrane over Davis too. |
The saxophone is my favorite. Preferably the tenor! BTW, if you like the sax you should give these guys a listen! https://www.ranker.com/list/greatest-saxophonists-of-all-time/ranker-music |
The most fun band I was ever in had two sax players---a tenor and a baritone. Great combination sound, heard on a lot of 50's Rock 'n' Roll records (Little Richard a personal favorite). The band, a Jump Blues/Swing combo, added a trumpet, and none of us dug it. The worst fad in Rock was when hippie bands started adding a flute to their instrumental line-up. I was in one of those, too, and had to put my foot down. The bass player backed me up, so the flute was out. Too feminine. ;-) |