Both coaxes arrived a couple hours ago. Figured I would start with the Odin 2 Gold to compliment my ICs and speaker cables
All I did was treat the connectors with Mad Science Audio Graphene Contact Enhancer. Both will take a few days to be at their best, but already it’s an amazing improvement on literally all aspects of the music; depth, width, height, and bass. Way more relaxed, yet great detail
First CD is Jennifer Nettles Playin With Fire, a bright sounding CD in my system: Well not anymore. After playing it, I put on my XLO Burn in Disc and came downstairs to report
HTH
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I bought several of these Nordost copies with the understanding if they did not work out that they should not be resold. At their prices this is still very low risk and not a big deal. You may be a forthcoming seller and honest that these are knock-offs but future buyers may not be. I would not re-sell them and chalk it up as experimenting fun. BTW I am very happy with mine but I don’t play in the $600+ cable market.
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@tksteingraber :
You may be a forthcoming seller and honest that these are knock-offs but future buyers may not be. I would not re-sell them and chalk it up as experimenting fun
+1. You are 100% right
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I find it funny out there that there are people who pretend that their expensive cables make a huge difference. Now we have people out there who pretend that they fake pretend cables sound awesome. When does the pretending stop?
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When YOU stop pretending you are into audio and a hobbyist, rather than just a human version of computer malware 🤯
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What the…I guess we have to translate Raysmtb1’s word definitions to understand his nonsensical post.
Funny = Compelling Pretend = Validate (d)
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My own conscience says never buy a knockoff of anything. It cheats the people who took the time and money to develop a good product. I do not have an unlimited budget though.
What I did was get a very nice set of speaker cables when they went on Black Friday sale. 60% off Morrow Cable's SP6's.
I have some new speaker cables that provide a great more detail than I ever had before and I can sleep at night.
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Braurer,
I do not think I have ever heard such a succinct description of how American cable makers sell their snake oil BS… HEAR, HEAR!!
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@mrdon 😂 expensive cables for that matter cheap cables will never help a poorly implemented audio system. What of the European and Asian companies that manufacture ultra high end audio cables? It is not just an American thing. Hoy Hoy.
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My first Ali-E experience was after reading a thread on Agon. The experience was very positive, and the prices were so incredibly cheap compared to the rather expensive WW Ag Eclipses that were gifted to me; matching XLR and speaker cable. What could I expect? Curiosity killed the cat, so I decided to stick my toe in the water buying a fake Nordost Odin 2 coax cable, which at < 1/4 the price of my Pangea coax, it a carbon copy spec-wise of the considerably more expensive DHL. It took a month to arrive to S Florida, but wow Wow WOW, and that without any break in. That experience lead me to then replace my very expensive WW Ag Silver Eclipse XLR, followed by my speaker cable (gifts or I would never could have afforded them), and later most of my power cords. While the Odin 2 coax, XLR and speaker cables provided much more information, collectively, they were on the dry side in my all SS system (probably great for tubes though). Further research and I replaced the WW with Odin 2 Gold, except for the coax, which was not available then. Finally, someone on another thread had bought the Odin 2 Gold, after some searching I found it, and 25 days later (4 days ago) I inserted it and although in need of break in it was clear that it was what I needed. The next day I used a burn-in disc on repeat for some 14 hours while I was out. That helped a ton. Last night it was sounding really good on Wilson Phillips Greatest hits which always sounded shrill, but with the Odin 2 Gold was quite listenable with a greater sense of separation. I followed them up with Ray LaMontagne Till the Sun Turns Black a very good sounding disc, but now on another level
HTH
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For those who would never buy knock-offs fear not, Ali-E has OEM cables too.
About a year ago, after I changed out my Fake name only Nordost Odin 2 cables (XLR and speaker cables) which are very fast, but no fuzz on the peach, probably best with tubes, to Odin 2 Gold I was unable to find a Gold coax, which I felt would compliment the other Golds. On a thread someone had gotten the Odin 2 Gold coax, so I found it on Ali-E but while there I saw a coax from Yangsane that I also ordered. After 10 days of breaking in the Gold 2, including several long sessions with my XLO and Stereophile burn in disks, and hours of listening, I decided to try the Yangsane $43.50/05m + free shipping. WELL! Immediately, it was on a much higher level than the Gold 2, which sounded soft where the Yangsane was fast yet had a natural live quality, and a much more focused and bigger 3D sound stage, and much better bass.
My Orders page is under maintenance, so I was unable to give you that link, but this seem close. FYI they also have RCAs, XLRs and variety of cryoed PCs, but I did not see speaker cables HTH
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804851376190.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000013.2.477b416ca9ar9W&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=b9c1be84-7be6-4bad-9a4a-5fc2e09f2388&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:b9c1be84-7be6-4bad-9a4a-5fc2e09f2388,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2164.00%2128.16%21%21%2164.00%2128.16%21%402101c72a17047369892804133e720e%2112000031413381562%21rec%21US%21128321401%21
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I have purchased the following wires from Aliexpress with excellent results...
VALLHALA 2 speaker wires
3' XLR Cables....
Odin 2 Gold, Odin 2 silver, Xangsane (the green ones), Xangsane xp9003ag (diy), and I am waiting on the Cardas clear and XLO
Power cables
Odin 2 Gold
ODin 2 silver
Cat 5 cable, Odin 2 gold
usb Cable, Odin 2 gold
I2s cable, Audioquest Thunder
My equipment is.. Jays Audio cd2 mk3, Denafrips Pontus 2, Denafrips Athena, Lumin U1 mini, Roon Rock, and Klipsch k402MEHs, with f20 bass bins, xililca xp4080, Icepower 50asx2btl and 125asx2btl amps!
All of the cables sound great and I am playing around with using them on different drivers to see which cable matches the best on my K402 MEHs...which are configured as a 3 way with a pair of f20 bass horns.
I first tried the Odin 2 gold on my highs and it sounded great, then I added it for my mids and it sounded good too. I have a very clear sound that is a little to dry for my taste...so I added the Xansane green and it was a def improvement in the mids, as it is not dry sounding anymore and has a little more detail. I hope to have the 9003ag wires assembled next week to see how they compare.
Has anyone tried Cardas, XLO, or Xangsane speaker wires in comparison to Valhalla 2?
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@ellisr63
Glad to hear. And the best part is Ali--E cables are incredibly inexpensive which allows for experimentation 👊
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How about the Jinwei cables are they good?
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I have ordered few sets of the Xangsane and the 40th anniversary Accuphase clone power cables and also couple of Odin 2 aes/ebu cables. I will report once I get them and try them for few days in my system. I have several AC and IEC connectors of different materials to try with the power cables. I believe the plugs are more important than the wire.
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Inspired by this thread , ordered a set of 8tc clones from China last year.
Cables showed up in about 3 weeks. Not expecting much, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality, PTFE insulated wire with screwed on brass bananas. Recently was bored and decided to re terminate the cables with some Kimber spades I had laying around from other projects. I was shocked when I removed the original connectors and found the wire had variable sized conductors.
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@tweak1 The wires that I do not like as much will go to my rear channel MEHs. For surround duty.😆
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Couldn’t resist the temptation though and have ordered a pair of Valhalla 2 speaker copies. Actual wire may or may not be the the same but they’re definitely made with machinery that looks capable of putting out the real thing.
I have a pair of unbranded / unterminated Heimdall 2 copies and when you compare close up pics of the construction against pics of real H2s they’re visually twins.
We’ll see how the V2s stack up against my Silversmith Fideliums.
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@zigstien got similar cable, re-terminated with nice rhodium plugs and voilà! All measurements after some work around came perfect (R, C, L, all at 50-50000Hz)! I don’t take those cables as clone, it’s more like good material for DIY project. Good thing I can cut whatever length I need, without destroying value.
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I have about 15 hours on the the Valhalla 2 speaker cable copies which are 1.5m. I’ll give them a month and then will compare against the ones I’ve been using for the last year. Out of the gate I’d say they’re a very good cable and there is a break in period.
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About 2 weeks ago I replaced el cheapo Ali-E vibration control devices with very reasonably priced VeraFi Very Black Holes under my Audiolab CDT 6000 and was floored. Now have them under all my kit. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Plus they have lots of cool kit and accessories
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https://www.youtube.com/live/3gwPZV8cS3c?si=5LUyvsQvawPAwetl
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How about genuinely good well built cables from China
There are very many serious audiophiles in China and they have had their own home grown brands going back to the 80s, that I know of.
W.r.t the knockoffs on Aliexpress, It reeks all day of some names having/had fab operations in China at some point, bought them en masse and sold them to a exceptionalist & patriotic group of north American audiophiles at 2000% markups, i.e., otherwise known as the patriot price.
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tweak 1
Can you post a link to the Verafi Very Black Holes?
Thanks
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Google is your friend:
https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/vibration-black-hole
Which Ali-E vibration control devices were you using tweak1?
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