Revisiting Chinese Knockoff Cables


Why I don/t know, but the first thread has been removed recently. So, having benefited from it greatly, I felt compelled to recap my journey, so that others of limited budgets might make a huge leap that they otherwise could not afford:

When I first got my EVS 1200 I was using Series 8 WireWorld interconnects, speaker cables and Pangea Premier XL 1.5m coax cable. As you mentioned, I was extremely happy with the amp (compared to PS Audio M700s). Eventually I came across the Chinese Cable knockoff thread and first tried the fau-Nordost Odin 1.5m coax which was/is amazing: as they were so cheap compared to the $169 1.5m Pangea, I also bought a 1.0M Odin, but didn’t try it until after I replaced both the WW cables with Odin 2 XLRs and cables. Then I replaced the 1.5m with the 1.0 and was kinda blown away that 0.5m of the same coax could be THAT much better.

While my all SS system sounded very good, it was a bit too sharp, so I ordered Odin Gold speaker cables (at ~ $170/2.5m). Unfortunately one leg must of had a bad solder joint as it barely sent the music . It took a couple months before they replaced it, which I finally installed 2 days ago: BAM. Even immediately, but of course it needs break in time. The weather here (Ft Lauderdale) has been really bad, I have only left for short quick trips. Today we are under a tornado watch, so won't leave, but as soon as I can get out for a few hours I will put on my XLO burn-in disc, which I use on everything I insert, including the M 700s, EVS, and Voyager which expedites break in, which still takes a good 50-100-200 hours!

Summing this up: cables can/do make or break a system. If I had these cables when I first got the EVS, I probably would never have gotten the Voyager, which of course I am itching to compare again, but could still be awhile

tweak1

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And the latter appears to have been sold by a fairly prominent Audiogon seller for the past two or three years for $350-$400 with rave reviews when it can be purchased China direct for $35-$50! 

Who is this Prominent dude? Please post links to one of his/her Audiogon listings 

 

When YOU stop pretending you are into audio and a hobbyist, rather than just a human version of computer malware 🤯

@tksteingraber :

You may be a forthcoming seller and  honest that these are knock-offs but future buyers may not be.  I would not re-sell them and chalk it up as experimenting fun

+1. You are 100% right

 


While big branded bosses moving their operation for the cheap Chinese labor, Chinese entrepreneurs and businessmen take an advantage of building the same, but for a lot cheaper and even using same materials.

Source? Again spitting stuff off your assss. So much for the OBJECTIVITY you dudes proclaim. No different than your lecture about the drug cartel and Nordost profit margins. Sad pathetic creature 🤯

I also became quite enthusiastic of getting those wires purchased from Alibaba or DHGate

Hmmmmm…. Why? If the cables make zero difference, what you repeatedly preach in 5000+ posts of yours, why not just use the FREE stock cables or lamp cord? Why spend the money and the hassle buying from Ali and paying money (they are NOT free)?

 

 

 

jetter

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Looking at the most positive side of roxy54’s original post it serves a very important purpose to inform potential buyers of these cables being sold as used (expecting the genuine article) to be on the lookout for counterfeits.

If you want to buy them, who really cares?  But I ask myself what I would think as a new person considering joining Audiogon what type of people are members of the site if they author threads actively promoting the purchase of Chinese counterfeits?

You are absolutely correct! As a matter of fact, we had a member posting here in this thread (now deleted), a cable hater, proudly proclaiming he bought several counterfeit cables and sold them as genuine, duping many people and making a fortune in the process. Yes, such jerks exist. Unfortunately 

 

Scumbag. Fraud. Lowlife. The very definition of them all. Human manure. And you seem to be proud of scamming people