Quantum Science Audio Thread


This is a thread for those who wish to discuss Quantum Science Audio products of all types.
tommylion
oregonpapa and millercarbon:

I agree that it's time. Like Frank, I have a natural aversion to reporting anyone who is exercising free speech. But this individual has crossed way over the line again and again. Took me all of 15 minutes to report every single post on this thread. For those of you complaining, I suggest you take the time to do the same. That is, if you are really serious about fixing the problem.
I rarely post anything here. I did so this time because I had direct experience on the topic and reported it in a factual and non judgmental fashion. My reward was to be called a lier by one member and told I was in the wrong hobby by another ( I have been in this hobby for 49 years ). I am and always have been in this hobby for the enjoyment of music. I once got into a discussion with Geof Kait on the directionality of fuses and realized "why should I care or judge how others choose to enjoy this hobby ?" I think you guys have really strayed and are missing the point.
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It is as simple as click Report this, click "Other" and type the words, "off topic". Done. Gone.  

Usually he is insulting other members, calling them "fusers" "shills" and sometimes in combination, "fuse shillers" like above. When he does this click Abusive.   

Then in comments ask why he is allowed to post when all he does is insult others for nothing more than trying to make their systems better?
This has gone on long enough. Being a devout believer in free speech, I’ve never reported another poster to the moderators no matter how offensive the personal attacks. Georgehifi has become a true pain in the butt by hijacking every thread he enters into with his inane insults. From now on, I will report every one of his offensive, stupid threads to management until he either stops or is banned from the site. I hope others will do the same.

Frank
Hey everybody, there’s a "report this" icon that appears in the lower right of any post when you move your pointer over it. Clicking on it will send you to Admin to click on why you’re flagging the post and space to detail your thoughts.

georgie is doing his level best to annoy everyone he can. It’s like sitting in a diner and having some fool a couple of booths over yelling at you every chance he gets. Just like asking the waitress, let Admin know how annoying and disruptive georgie is being and they will do something about it. He’s had similar posts removed for the same reasons.

Stop complaining about it and let Admin know. If enough of you do alert Admin, believe me when I tell you they will remove his posts and if it georgie keeps doing it, he will get a time out.

All the best,
Nonoise


                          "THE TRUTH ABOUT $$$$ FUSES HURTS DOESN’T IT"
                            Especially to the fuse shillers boss’s 2000% profit margins.


cerberus79A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Im not picking a side here as I don’t give a care what people spend their money on, just relating my experience.







I miss the times when trolls were forest creatures that turned to stone when sunlight hit them. Folks like georgehifi are the direct result of ‘Deforestation’ 🤣
Without an ignore button, this forum is almost.........intolerable.

Distasteful. 

I wish it would be different. I really do.
I was actually interested in this thread.


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OP what’s with the stones?

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cerberus79
41 posts08-16-2021 8:55pmA few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Im not picking a side here as I don’t give a care what people spend their money on, just relating my experience.

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Being the noisy guy I am, I had to ask the question WHY would there be NO difference if you went to a busman fuse? WHY?

This occurred to me, the fuses you removed left a substantial amount of contact enhancer behind. You didn’t clean the surfaces did you?

The thing that’s not being addresses is that GOO on the end of the fuse need to settle for one thing. BUT it works quite well on any two mating surfaces passing current one to the other in a Cha Cha DIRECTION towards the source (50 or 60 cycle). You removed the fuse.. That is what you DON’T do. If you did remove the fuses and then swapped it back and forth, that’s not how the fuse works or ANY cabling for that matter.

To really test your ears, get your test tracks and install a stock fuse after cleaning the fuse pockets. Turn it on and let it play for a couple of hours but don’t listen (I wait at least 8 hours on a new fuse). THEN listen, for 10 minutes max. Have your orange fuse with fresh contact enhancer (GOO on the fuse) ready to install.

Install it in ONE speaker NOT both. Don’t play both speakers only one 2 minutes tops.

Listen, and swap directions on the fuse. Does one way sound better to you? IF not pull the fuses and use stockers.. You’ll be just fine.

If you hear a difference and like the change or don’t like the change DON’T keep swapping the fuse. Put the fuse in the direction that you liked and leave it. The contact enhancer can take up 100 hours to completely fill the voids and "Get Thin". If you look at that GOO under a 10000 x scope it’s pretty amazing how it lays a contact surface between the two mating surfaces and there are fewer and fewer voids as time goes on.

There is a reason that it works and a way to stop it from working, just by handling the fuse and removing the GOO.. I’ve never been a big fan of handling contact surfaces on anything. You’re touch is slightly acidic and can leave etched prints in a very short time on most metallic surfaces.

Regards
The QSA blue fuses and stones rank right up there, along with Perfect Path Technologies Total Contact, E mats and Gate. Others include various Herbie’s Audio Lab products for vibration control, Audioquest Fog Lifter cable elevators, Gutwire Ultimate Ground cables, and a mod to my amp to add a polarity switch.

I have also found good NOS tubes to be superior to currently manufactured ones.
Tommylion
What are the most beneficial mods or tweaks that you currently have in your system?

jafant,


My simple CD based system currently consists of the following:


audiolab 8000CDM CD transport

Audio Note DAC Kit 1.1 NOS tube DAC

Antique Sound Lab T1 passive autoformer preamp

Antique Sound Lab Tulip stereo 2A3 SET amp

Audio Note AN-E-L speakers


Rather than changing components, over the years, I have invested in adding numerous accessories, tweaks and mods, in order to get the best out of what I already have. I continue to be amazed at how much improvement can still be had, when these additions are carefully chosen.


My goal is to get as much of the life, energy, engagement and enjoyment, that I find in live music, out of my CD collection as possible. My musical tastes cover a wide variety of genres; rock, pop, classical, classic jazz, folk, classic country, bluegrass, Christian, Irish, Celtic et al. Basically, good music is good music, regardless of the style.


I think your mileage may vary, based on what the fuses go into.

I'd love to try some QSA fuses.

The SR Orange really opened up my eyes.

So, if you're telling me that the Yellow is even better than THOSE, I'll have to give one a shot.










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My Yellow fuse arrived today and I have to say it blows the SR orange away in every aspect in my Raven Blackhawk amp. Just stunning a little fuse can make such an improvement.  Best $220 spent! I also bought a blue fuse for my DAC but it arrived with a  loose end cap that pulled off with little help…will have to get an exchange. Will be interesting how the two will play together…
cerberus7941 posts08-17-2021 1:55pmA few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Im not picking a side here as I don’t give a care what people spend their money on, just relating my experience.
Now this is real.

All else is con job, as there’s 1000% markup to be had selling these fuses, almost as good as selling cocaine, but you can’t get busted selling fuses.

Cheers George
oregonpapa4,644 posts08-17-2021 12:03am
If you can’t hear the difference between a stock fuse and an SR Orange fuse, I’d suggest seeking out a different hobby.
If you can, I suggest you seek medical help immediately!.
oregonpapa4,644 posts08-17-2021 12:03am
If you can’t hear the difference between a stock fuse and an SR Orange fuse, I’d suggest seeking out a different hobby.
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If you can't hear the difference between a stock fuse and an SR Orange fuse, I'd suggest seeking out a different hobby.

Frank
A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Im not picking a side here as I don't give a care what people spend their money on, just relating my experience. 



It's the same old gang pushing these 1000% markup!!! fuses, you don't have to be Einstein to work out what's going on.
It is not always some very courageous people who wanted to save humanity... Sometimes some mandated people from "God" want to also....Sometimes "idiots" with a fad wanted to also....

I dont have any problems with all these saviors...

Except with those who wanted to save me in spite of my will to be "lost"...
This sort of thread should not be allowed, as it is not on other more technically believable audio forums.
No, actually, these kind of threads are to be allowed. It's your silly comments and attempts to derail threads that should not be allowed and thankfully, some have already been deleted.

All the best,
Nonoise


Can I ask a serious question?

Why are some of you guys here in this thread, and why do you feel the need to keep posting?

Some of us are here because we’re genuinely interested in the OP thread.

I don't get it.

Do you have anything helpful to offer or share? 





If you look at the website there are subtle changes of phrasing.  Black and red get "a proprietary conditioning process followed by a 1,000,000 volt signal we call Quantum Tunneling", Blue gets 1,000,000 volt Quantum Treatment, whereas Orange gets 1,000,000 volt multi-stage, high-frequency conditioning process.  Hmmm.
Definition:  What is quantum tunneling exactly?

Quantum tunneling is a phenomenon where an atom or a subatomic particle can appear on the opposite side of a barrier that should be impossible for the particle to penetrate.

Is this what SR is doing?  Wow  
Do the QSA fuses benefit from quantum tunneling (as their name might suggest) as do Synergistic Research fuses (see website), or is that a phenomenon unique to SR?
jasonbourne52
oldhvymec: "There is ZERO Nano arcing after it settles."
LOL! You have got to be making this up! "Nano arcing" - another term added to the pseudoscience lexicon!
Oh yes, they got some great ones here, that the $$$$ hungry shady boutique fuse companies make up and feed these guys, so the get their 1000% markup on the 10cent fuse they sell them.
This sort of thread should not be allowed, as it is not on other more technically believable audio forums.

Cheers George
Typo
" If yours has 10A and your in the US, it’s wrong."

Should be
If yours has 10A and your not in the US, it’s wrong.
Look it up are you that far behind, The number one reason for chip failure.

Electrical Engineer's Reference Book (sixteenth Edition), 2003

It also refers to the benefits of using the SAME tech in vacuum arc and other controlled arc methods of alloy joining, lighting etc.. 

It also covers nano enhancers, graphene being one that increases contact area and reducing nano or micro arcing in the voids..

catch up jasonbourne52, it's a big new world.. I don't just puff ad pass, I actually look for a reason why it does work, not why it doesn't.. Different way of looking at thing I suppose..

Regards

Love Nickel Creek’s debut album. Their instruments and vocals are sounding so real and natural.


oldhvymec: "There is ZERO Nano arcing after it settles." LOL! You have got to be making this up! "Nano arcing" - another term added to the pseudoscience lexicon!
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And your trying to educate members about the sound of fuses.
You don’t deserve help, but here it is.

10A will be for 110-120v (USA)
4-5A will be for 230-240v (France)
If your has 10A and your in the US, it’s wrong.


"Also my YBA instructions say it needs a 10A slo blo, but it came with a 4A slo blo fuse. Do you think its a misprint on the instruction book?. The YBA poweramp says 10A as well. For a poweramp 10A i can understand."

That's a call to the manufacturer, for sure.
I bought blue fuses for both my main rig and also headphone setup. Very happy with the results.

Am thinking of upgrading my dac, phono and preamp to yellow. Or just upgrade the preamp to purple. Any opinion on which way to go.

Also my YBA instructions say it needs a 10A slo blo, but it came with a 4A slo blo fuse. Do you think its a misprint on the instruction book?. The YBA poweramp says 10A as well. For a poweramp 10A i can understand.

Also is there really a big jump in sound quality of the yellow from the Blue? 
Yup OP it's up to you. We can only flag so many and the mods TRY to give george a little leeway. Of course he abuses it.. Just ask them to remove his post and WARN him.. He's off his rocker here lately..

How many time do people have to ASK the MODS to stop the guy..

I use ta kinda like him, now.. I got TWO reasons not to go to Australia, he's ONE.. The other is in Perth..
I would ask Mike at Tweek Geek for his recommendation. But would try and stay in the same ballpark as the mfr. 

I  am really enjoying the musicality of my system with the fuse. So, again, try one and let your ears (and wallet) decide. 

Why doesn't the moderator stop George on this thread? He's made his point (a dozen times I might add). Perhaps a permanent block is in order. 
I believe you, the OP, has the ability to block abusive and juvenile posts that are meant to inflame and provoke arguments with the intent of having threads closed down.

george's past posts (of the very same content) were taken down so just flag them and in the description, let Admin know why.

All the best,
Nonoise
“P.S. Is there any way to block or ignore users on here?”

I think it’s on a lot of people’s wish list, but, unfortunately, no.